Found Deceased UK - Leah Croucher - Emerson Valley - Milton Keynes - #7

[jackal67]

Because between 2019 and now the satellite could have been installed whenever (probably not most of 2020 for obvious reasons).

They could have arranged install for any number of reasons at anytime. They could have intended to visit but circumstances changed their plans even post covid.

Noone said he was the only person to ever have keys, but he was the only person with keys at the time. there's little doubt that others will have had keys over time.

He was the only person with keys at the time according to the owner who was abroad so could not be 100% sure of that

 

[Kinners_D]

I agree. I think the smell would be unbearable. How likely is it that you would have a large body sized sealed container to store a body in . Unless you were planning on murdering someone beforehand !

One trip to screwfix/b and q/any hardware store post murder and container can be purchased, it's not going to raise suspicion either.

 

[Kinners_D]

He was the only person with keys at the time according to the owner who was abroad so could not be 100% sure of that

According to the police, not the owner, the police made the statement. Which could have been corroborated by multiple sources.

 

[jackal67]

He could have left that day of soon after once hidden her body if work finished as probably think police would be on to him quickly given the location and there would be no decomposition in that short time.

Not sure it’s been confirmed owners returned in the summer but if they did then very odd.

Yes. It was a neighbour who said Owners were there in 2019 and spoke to them. Not a fact but if they were then very odd

 

[Embobaggins]

Unless we know the ins and outs of exactly, how, in what way, and where she was left then it's an open question to which there is no answer. Different houses will disperse smells in different ways, so many factors involved in this.

Why would a management agency, locksmith or contractors of any kind just ignore the smell or any other sign of a hidden body if they saw it? It makes little sense to me that they would?

This is exactly why some people are questioning NM as the murderer, I think. Anybody in that house after NM died would raise suspicions, unless of course they knew what had happened

 

[Kinners_D]

Yes. It was a neighbour who said Owners were there in 2019 and spoke to them. Not a fact but if they were then very odd

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Unless you know exactly how the body was stored/sealed somewhere then there is no reason to believe anyone entering the property would have any incling there was a body.

 

[Mollie123]

I wonder if anyone has read where LC rucksack was found? If as suggested this was not concealed, surely when the owner visited in August they would have noticed it? Also LE mentioned they had dropped leaflet through the door to contact them. Am assuming the owner never did?

 

[Kinners_D]

This is exactly why some people are questioning NM as the murderer, I think. Anybody in that house after NM died would raise suspicions, unless of course they knew what had happened

Can you explain why they would raise suspicions please?

 

[Cherwell]

I think if we are patient we will learn a lot more of the background in due course.

 

[Miss_French]

And they didn't notice the smell? How do we know that Leahs remains were not moved to the property after the last visit by the owners in July 2019. They also did not notice a smell in high summer! The property management company if one was used have a lot of questions to answer IMO

We don't know for certain the owners visited in 2019. I've only seen that comment attributed to 'a neighbour'. Have you seen otherwise? Genuine question, as I'm sure I've read the police were still trying to establish that and can't find it.

 

[jackal67]

One trip to screwfix/b and q/any hardware store post murder and container can be purchased, it's not going to raise suspicion either.

Yes true. I am surprised that the next door neighbour was not aware of all his comings and goings in that case

 

[Kinners_D]

I wonder if anyone has read where LC rucksack was found? If as suggested this was not concealed, surely when the owner visited in August they would have noticed it? Also LE mentioned they had dropped leaflet through the door to contact them. Am assuming the owner never did?

The rucksack was in the loft.

I don't visit my loft very often, maybe once or twice a year to fetch something I've stored. If they were visiting for short durations onelce a year I can't imagine they would need to go up there.

 

[Kinners_D]

Yes true. I am surprised that the next door neighbour was not aware of all his comings and goings in that case

They would probably be at work and even if not, entirely oblivious to the workman coming and going next door.

I work from home, neighbour had a kitchen fitted a few weeks back, I couldn't tell you what their van looked like, how many of them there were, when they were here, when they left... nothing. I only know it was a kitchen because my neighbour mentioned it.

 

[Cherwell]

Yes true. I am surprised that the next door neighbour was not aware of all his comings and goings in that case

Why should they be? I don't suppose they were at home all the time looking out of their windows 24/7.
I have absolutely no idea when my neighbours are going out or coming home.

 

[BrianJohnson]

Another thing I don’t understand/doesn’t add up

He had a national address warrant out on him with 18 arrest attempts, yet allegedly registered a car at #2 that had a parking ticket sent there, how come there was no attempt at arresting him there if he had been there? don’t Police/DVLA share information? weird

 

[jackal67]

We don't know for certain the owners visited in 2019. I've only seen that comment attributed to 'a neighbour'. Have you seen otherwise? Genuine question, as I'm sure I've read the police were still trying to establish that and can't find it.

No I read it was a neighbour too. Not seen anything else reported. Police must be in contact with the owners though so would surely have asked about their comings and goings to the property?

 

[Kinners_D]

Another thing I don’t understand/doesn’t add up

He had a national address warrant out on him with 18 arrest attempts, yet allegedly registered a car at #2 that had a parking ticket sent there, how come there was no attempt at arresting him there if he had been there? don’t Police/DVLA share information? weird

Parking ticket story remains incredibly sketchy and unverified.

 

[jackal67]

Why should they be? I don't suppose they were at home all the time looking out of their windows 24/7.
I have absolutely no idea when my neighbours are going out or coming home.

Well they seemed to be aware that the property was empty and when the owners visited. Plus it was a shared driveway I believe.

 

[Jaesu]

It's not odd. People need to stop saying it's odd.

Unless you know exactly how the body was stored/sealed somewhere then there is no reason to believe anyone entering the property would have any incling there was a body.

Just my opinion but I think questioning about the smell or lack of is a valid point of discussion. In other cases where individuals have been found dead 3+ years down the line, neighbours have usually noted a bad smell in the vicinity.

 

[Cherwell]

Another thing I don’t understand/doesn’t add up

He had a national address warrant out on him with 18 arrest attempts, yet allegedly registered a car at #2 that had a parking ticket sent there, how come there was no attempt at arresting him there if he had been there? don’t Police/DVLA share information? weird

That's not right - the poster who reported this said that the letter was brought to the police by someone who lived nearby, so not at no 2.

Didn't someone say that there had been a property management company registered at one of the other addresses in Loxbeare Drive? If this was not an official parking fine, but a parking charge issued by a private company, they can carry on sending out demands for years, so it needn't have been recent.