UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #22

[Skigh]

Is anyone else not convinced by the 12.30 'screams' witness statements?

Sams testimony is much more convincing to me, seeing as he identied the screams as human, got up to look and saw 'a man' leaving the park.

I would have thought Sam would also have heard the 12:30 screams.

 

[Eyes Wide Open]

It’s gone very quiet, didn’t appear that prosecution cross examined first witness re time

Seems to be whether they came from an animal - not about time

 

[Eyes Wide Open]

ETA - But if their timing is right you'd think that Sam Alford would have heard them as well?

 

[jamjim]

11:53
Trial ends for the day

It has been a short session for day 11.

The trial will resume on Monday when there maybe one more witness and then it is likely then the closing speeches and summing up will take place.

The jury will retire to consider their verdict after that.

Pawel Relowicz returns to witness stand as week two of trial ends

 

[mrazda71]

I would have thought Sam would also have heard the 12:30 screams.

Yes I would think so too but, if he was able to tell the difference and recognised the later noises as an owl or fox then it probably wouldn't need to be mentioned.

The first time you hear foxes or a Screech owl you do automatically think 'someone's screaming' ... but you soon become familiar.

Frogs screaming is awful!

 

[bos]

Is anyone else not convinced by the 12.30 'screams' witness statements?

Sams testimony is much more convincing to me, seeing as he identied the screams as human, got up to look and saw 'a man' leaving the park.

They’re equally convincing to me; I think they all heard the same thing but it’s the timing that’s the issue. From that point of view I’m inclined to give more credence to Sam as he received a text which woke him & he therefore has a record of when he woke.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Thanks for today's updates @jamjim

 

[Newthoughts]

Is anyone else not convinced by the 12.30 'screams' witness statements?

Sams testimony is much more convincing to me, seeing as he identied the screams as human, got up to look and saw 'a man' leaving the park.

I think the fact Sam Alford got up and looked compared with this student unsure if they were animals.

If anyone has heard foxes mating it's terrifying

 

[elliefant]

Thanks @jamjim , bit less arduous for you today

 

[bos]

Thanks for today's updates @jamjim

Yes, thanks from me too

 

[Skigh]

Yes I would think so too but, if he was able to tell the difference and recognised the later noises as an owl or fox then it probably wouldn't need to be mentioned.

The first time you hear foxes or a Screech owl you do automatically think 'someone's screaming' ... but you soon become familiar.

Frogs screaming is awful!

Foxes screams are blood curdling. Really does sound like a human's scream.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I still get a fright when I hear a Fox scream, I'm never quite sure whether it's a Fox or a person, have often gotten out of bed to have a look out the window.

 

[havntgotaclue]

I think the fact Sam Alford got up and looked compared with this student unsure if they were animals.

If anyone has heard foxes mating it's terrifying

Lets not start the old foxes thread again

 

[mrazda71]

11:53
Trial ends for the day

It has been a short session for day 11.

The trial will resume on Monday when there maybe one more witness and then it is likely then the closing speeches and summing up will take place.

The jury will retire to consider their verdict after that.

Pawel Relowicz returns to witness stand as week two of trial ends

One more witness ???? WHO?

 

[Zazie]

Good lord, that was brief.

"Trial ends for the day
It has been a short session for day 11.

The trial will resume on Monday when there maybe one more witness and then it is likely then the closing speeches and summing up will take place.

The jury will retire to consider their verdict after that."
Pawel Relowicz returns to witness stand as week two of trial ends

 

[Scorpiette]

Why has this been a short day in court?

 

[Skigh]

One more witness ???? WHO?

Was there not a woman who reported hearing screams?

 

[tedtink]

Foxes screams become more common during mating season.
Most mating takes place in Jan and Feb.

 

[Skigh]

Why has this been a short day in court?

Could be a barrister is involved in another case.His defence barrister was in court yesterday with a different case.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

One more witness ???? WHO?

Any chance his wife is testifying?