Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest*

[SpursGyal]

I believe her phone is still missing and could provide vital evidence.

The evidence they have IMO must be more than circumstantial, especially for the CPS to charge.

 

[Spender]

Been following this shocking case from the beginning very sad for the people suffering as a result of this boys actions ....if of course he is guilty. ....but someone has done this . Having had two lads now older than 16 , I find it very difficult how someone of that age would be capable of something so horrendous?. So MOO is he couldn’t have possibly acted alone to conceal this crime for so long before it has gotten to where it is now . This is my opinion only

 

[Mind your biscuits]

I don't think I've ever seen so many new members on a thread before! Welcome to you all.

 

[LancashireLad]

I wonder what they are still searching for, phone perhaps?

Wouldn’t like to say as I have no idea. From the looks of the search today they’re leaving no stone or branch unturned for whatever they are after. The vegetation down in that area is relatively dense

 

[LucyRocket]

So if the suspect is released after 96 hours, can they pick him up again if something else turns up? Do they get another 96 hours? How many times can UK do this to a person?

Forgive me, trying to explain this right. If one is released on CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE (bail), you can be further questioned. Otherwise, there would have to be new evidence which would result in a charge, rather than an arrest on suspicion

 

[CharlestonGal]

Forgive me, trying to explain this right. If one is released on CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE (bail), you can be further questioned. Otherwise, there would have to be new evidence which would result in a charge, rather than an arrest on suspicion

Thank you. Very good explanation.

 

[Dcflag]

Guys - it might be worth taking a look at the TOS before posting

 

[WiseOwl]

I still find it difficult to believe that this young lad has committed this murder, concealed and then put the body in the bin/cemetery all on his own. If indeed he is guilty he must surely have had help somewhere along the line?

It would be interesting to know exactly what evidence the police have got in order to charge him.

 

[LucyRocket]

Given both their ages and that there doesn't appear to be a family connection, he could linked to her job or kids.

Was Lindsay a TA in a primary or secondary school?

Primary I believe

 

[GoldenFlower]

They said all she had with her was her mobile phone and keys

There has been no mention of the keys being missing though...maybe they are searching for both?

 

[WiseOwl]

Wouldn’t like to say as I have no idea. From the looks of the search today they’re leaving no stone or branch unturned for whatever they are after. The vegetation down in that area is relatively dense

Welcome to Websleuths Lancashire Lad!

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[Sarahlou]

I still find it difficult to believe that this young lad has committed this murder, concealed and then put the body in the bin/cemetery all on his own. If indeed he is guilty he must surely have had help somewhere along the line?

It would be interesting to know exactly what evidence the police have got in order to charge him.

I reckon they have DNA evidence and maybe more CCTV evidence. But we wont find out for a long time unfortunately.

 

[Chellbu]

Another local very interested in this case. Was very surprised by the news this evening, especially given local talk about this.

Same here, part of me wonders itf he’s being framed by the real perp but I don’t want to believe the police are that naive.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

Thread is open again.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I reckon they have DNA evidence and maybe more CCTV evidence. But we wont find out for a long time unfortunately.

Can you tell me roughly how long it takes cases like this to get to trial in the UK? Here in the states it can take 1, 2, 3 years. TIA!

 

[Angleterre]

Can you tell me roughly how long it takes cases like this to get to trial in the UK? Here in the states it can take 1, 2, 3 years. TIA!

This will be 6–12 months,especially with it being a juvenile offender

 

[Angleterre]

Our DNA turnaround time in a murder enquiry is very efficient too. I could ‘fast track ‘ DNA evidence as the SIO and get a result within 24-48 hours. The only problem with this is the financial cost as each item tested will cost thousands instead of hundreds when being fast tracked therefore as the SIO, I would have to choose wisely and justify my submissions and the reasons for them.

 

[Angleterre]

You're not being a know-all at all, we all appreciate your valued input on here.

Thank you- very kind of you