philippa26
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I saw it mentioned a side door was open due to the heatNormally anywhere that has children attending is locked ? How did this guy just walk in ??
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I saw it mentioned a side door was open due to the heatNormally anywhere that has children attending is locked ? How did this guy just walk in ??
Normally anywhere that has children attending is locked ? How did this guy just walk in ??
17 bit young for that surely . Ages 6 and upwards?Single father not allowed access to his daughter? Just a thought.
What a tragic error ! Did the guy know this I wonder ?I saw it mentioned a side door was open due to the heat
SBM.a teenager not being brought up properly by their parents.
Do we know who alerted the emergency services and how quickly?Perhaps he stayed put? I wouldn't be surprised if gaining notoriety was a factor in this incident given the horrific nature and number of victims.
Jackal if you see a few posts below my post you quoted that I posted that early on and then after i posted that someone posted the then new news that the perp was 17 years on and I mentioned that I didnt know that when I posted it. Sorry not making sense. Basically you are quoting an early on post of mine before age 17 was apparent.17 bit young for that surely . Ages 6 and upwards?
that is the problem in UK we get short bursts of too hot weather so are not equipped with air con.I read that the door was open because of the hot weather
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So I am now baffled. How did he even know this event was happening? It was not in any way in a prominent location. So how did he even know The Hart Space was there. He must have either sought it out specifically (how?) or had this type of specific crime/murderous action in mind and went looking for this kind of group - again how though. I would have thought this would have just been advertised via flyer to local primary schools. So how does he even come across it? Is where he lives even that close to The Hart Centre - it looks to be a 15 min taxi ride from Banks were he supposedly lives.
From what little I can see online The Hart Space seems to cater for small women’s/childrens yoga groups which i can’t see how he would ever come across and know about as a 17yr old male other than specifically seeking out such events? Which is completely chilling when you think about it. That must require a degree of animosity towards children/women that i can’t comprehend.
Quite possibly - he certainly seemed to head straight there in a taxi and there was nothing else i can see of note in the immediate vicinity that he could have been visiting/targeting before he came across this place (although it doesn’t say much for the quality of the algorithm that pushed this particular advert into the feed of a 17 yr old boy).An ad for the event was posted on Instagram, and maybe also on other social media. Maybe he followed some "what's happening in your local area" and the ad came up there.
See post #63
Suppose it's possible, it's not uncommon for side doors to be propped open in the summer. Our buildings are really not built for the heatWhat a tragic error ! Did the guy know this I wonder ?
From reports, he took martial arts class as a kid yet he didn't target a dojo where he surely would've faced a fight. He didn't physically attack the man who confronted him about not paying for his taxi. He picked littleExactly. Why else is he ordering a taxi and going to a dance class next to a pregnancy care centre?
That car repair place is next to the lane leading to the dance studio, so he got dropped off right at the location.It's horrific and terrifying and it does seem specifically targetted to me with the taxi ride.
Also strange how he drew attention by causing a commotion beforehand:
"Colin Parry, owner of Masters Vehicle Body Repairs, which is next to where the workshop was being held, told BBC 5Live he was first aware of a commotion because a young man in a face mask was refusing to pay a taxi driver.
He said he and a customer confronted the man but that he asked them, "What are you going to do?", and walked off."
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Normally anywhere that has children attending is locked ? How did this guy just walk in ??
Yea, most places here are usually open, especially in summertime when it's warm and the doors are open to let some air in. Even school playgrounds are accessible to anyone.Is that really the case, in the UK? I can't comment on things like dance classes, but certainly I've seen events like quite large children's birthday parties in hired venues, such as village halls, and the building wasn't locked.
The interview that Sky News are showing now with a man called Joel Verite is astonishing - such a brave man for stepping inside and helping. He says when he arrived (he was a window cleaner passing by in his van with a colleague) he stopped because he saw a ‘girl’ covered in blood who was calling 999 in the street - so I guess she was first to call. I think he said he took over the call when she collapsed.Do we know who alerted the emergency services and how quickly?
Yea, most places here are usually open, especially in summertime when it's warm and the doors are open to let some air in. Even school playgrounds are accessible to anyone.