Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #11

[Mollie123]

An interesting article from the Metro from Nicola’s next door neighbour. So Nicola DID have her car keys with her. A description is given. Also confirmed that Willow would never have left Nicola’s side

Nicola Bulley's next-door neighbour speaks for first time since mum disappeared

As the search enters the 18th day, next-door neighbour Charlotte Drake is trying her best to support Nicola Bulley's partner Paul and their devastated girls.

metro.co.uk

PA wants everyone to know the description of the key ring.

 

[Allabouttrial]

Ok so if I'm reading this correctly all the info. is being relayed by an anonymous friend (maybe TA) so maybe take it with a pinch of salt especially as the part about Paul not ringing the police until he got there is incorrect....

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The friend, who wishes to stay anonymous, told the Mirror she has spoken to a pair who believe they were the last people to see Nicola before she went missing.

She said: "They say she was laughing and joking with them as she went by."

She went on to say two other dog walkers later came across her phone and recognised the screensaver photo.

She said they were unable to unlock the phone and contacted a friend who then called St Michael's-on-Wyre Church of England Primary School, where Nicola had dropped her two children earlier that morning.

Partner Paul Ansell was contacted and raced to the scene from the family home three miles away in Inskip, before calling the police, the friend said.

"As far as I’m aware, no one called the police until Paul arrived," she said.

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Source

 

[ruby925]

I remember that being said but don't recall the context. Was that reported by a witness or was it discovered when the scene was first visited after the report to the school? Do we know if the 9.33am witness mentioned the dog or just the phone?

The 0933 witness, link already posted and in Media thread, stated that she tied Willow up before leaving the scene.

 

[Mollie123]

"A man then came through behind her with his dog and spotted the phone."

"The gent has looked on the floor and two feet from the bench there’s a phone," she said.

"I think she’s either been faffing about at the edge of the river because the dog’s been smelling fishing bait and she’s slipped or she’s had a medical episode."

Missing mum of two seen 'laughing and joking' moments before she disappeared

Nicola Bulley, 45, disappeared while out on a dog walk last Friday morning after dropping her children at school in St Michael's-on-Wyre, Lancashire, before police launched a major search operation

www.mirror.co.uk

Well done, thank you

 

[Allabouttrial]

I remember that being said but don't recall the context. Was that reported by a witness or was it discovered when the scene was first visited after the report to the school? Do we know if the 9.33am witness mentioned the dog or just the phone?

It's all been linked and discussed in the last 3 or more pages.

 

[Enigmacode]

Two phones or two SIM cards on the same phone.

But most likely two phones?

Or a dual SIM, depends on the phone model.
And the company worked for, having this software installed/available for employees.

 

[flowerpot]

Claudias Law comes to dependants rescue now. They don't have to wait 7 years.

Thank you, I stand corrected

 

[markoid]

and side scanners are about as useful in that level of silt as a bicycle is to a fish.

Indeed. PF stated side-scanning could show the outline of small stones - on the riverbed, not if they are under 200kgs of mud.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

and side scanners are about as useful in that level of silt as a bicycle is to a fish.

I've just done a quick read-up on side scan sonar, and apparently anything buried deeper than about 10-15cm (4-6 inches) can be completely missed due to the frequency not penetrating very far. Exceptional for surface objects, pretty awful for anything else.

 

[Mollie123]

There is a possibility somebody innocently found NB phone nearby or along the walking route and placed it on the bench for the owner to find. Now daren't come forward for fear of backlash etc. JMO

 

[Woodburnbay]

Indeed. PF stated side-scanning could show the outline of small stones - on the riverbed, not if they are under 200kgs of mud.

There is no more evidence that NB fell in the river than there is evidence that some unusual people were in the village that day.

I do hope that the police are correct in their assumptions that the focus on the river is correct.
If someone just wanted to murder NB they would do so and throw her to the river.

Does anyone feel that her being an IFA, a regulated business had anything to do with someone wanting to silence her.

Perhaps someone had breached a set of regulations and she was aware of this? it depends on what she shared about her work with her partner though, you would think that she may share any work concerns with him, unless of course she had just discovered something very recently.

For what purpose would abduction serve someone else?

 

[Woodburnbay]

There is a possibility somebody innocently found NB phone nearby or along the walking route and placed it on the bench for the owner to find. Now daren't come forward for fear of backlash etc. JMO

You would expect them to come forward so as to explain any prints left on the phone.

 

[Mollie123]

You would expect them to come forward so as to explain any prints left on the phone.

Yes of course although without wanting to sound pedantic, cold day would have worn gloves. Am clutching at straws I know.

 

[kittythehare]

Indeed. PF stated side-scanning could show the outline of small stones - on the riverbed, not if they are under 200kgs of mud.

sounded like he hadn't conducted even the slightest bit of research prior to going there.
Why did he think the police divers dived it several times?
They saw what he saw.
They just saw better.
It was never gonna be an easy river to search.. mud moves and does peculiar things with trapped air pockets and the like, could hold a helluva lotta suction power, enough maybe to suck her in deep..

 

[kittythehare]

Ok so if I'm reading this correctly all the info. is being relayed by an anonymous friend (maybe TA) so maybe take it with a pinch of salt especially as the part about Paul not ringing the police until he got there is incorrect....

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The friend, who wishes to stay anonymous, told the Mirror she has spoken to a pair who believe they were the last people to see Nicola before she went missing.

She said: "They say she was laughing and joking with them as she went by."

She went on to say two other dog walkers later came across her phone and recognised the screensaver photo.

She said they were unable to unlock the phone and contacted a friend who then called St Michael's-on-Wyre Church of England Primary School, where Nicola had dropped her two children earlier that morning.

Partner Paul Ansell was contacted and raced to the scene from the family home three miles away in Inskip, before calling the police, the friend said.

"As far as I’m aware, no one called the police until Paul arrived," she said.

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Source

all this saga again. Police have spoken with everybody in all the conflicting stories and police condensed it and that's the timeline. And that happened after all the stories..

 

[abovethestorm]

Wasn't it mentioned in an article that mentioned Willow running to and fro agitated from the bench to the river's edge? Or do I have that wrong?

"A man then came through behind her with his dog and spotted the phone."

"The gent has looked on the floor and two feet from the bench there’s a phone," she said.

"I think she’s either been faffing about at the edge of the river because the dog’s been smelling fishing bait and she’s slipped or she’s had a medical episode."

Missing mum of two seen 'laughing and joking' moments before she disappeared

Nicola Bulley, 45, disappeared while out on a dog walk last Friday morning after dropping her children at school in St Michael's-on-Wyre, Lancashire, before police launched a major search operation

www.mirror.co.uk

This was one of the statements that struck 'suspicious me' as a red flag immediately. Non-Brits may not be aware of this, but "faffing about" is a negatively-weighted comment to make, usually employed in a tone of irritation...IMO and lifelong, British-native experience...

 

[Luke84]

Short of a body, what 'hard evidence' would you expect to find?

Well, that’s cleary the most obvious one. But there are no reports of any disturbance on the riverbank which point to a fall/slip or scratchmarks from an attempt to claw herself out. Additionally, it’s possible that clothing or other belongings would have resurfaced along the river which was extensively searched.

Look, I am not saying she 100% did not enter the water; it’s a very valid scenario. But after two weeks nothing has been discovered to confirm this.

 

[Mr X]

Also they did not appear to get anything out of the River.

IMO the side scan sonar is useful for wide area searching but I have a feeling and it is JMO that it is not the right tool for a small river with varying depths. I think you could miss things.

These devices were made for people looking for fish.

I don't care how much it cost if it is the wrong tool it is the wrong tool.

 

[Mollie123]

sounded like he hadn't conducted even the slightest bit of research prior to going there.
Why did he think the police divers dived it several times?
They saw what he saw.
They just saw better.
It was never gonna be an easy river to search.. mud moves and does peculiar things with trapped air pockets and the like, could hold a helluva lotta suction power, enough maybe to suck her in deep..

I have read a few articles about people being stuck in mud at the side of riverbanks.

 

[LastSeenWearing]

There is no more evidence that NB fell in the river than there is evidence that some unusual people were in the village that day.

I do hope that the police are correct in their assumptions that the focus on the river is correct.
If someone just wanted to murder NB they would do so and throw her to the river.

Does anyone feel that her being an IFA, a regulated business had anything to do with someone wanting to silence her.

Perhaps someone had breached a set of regulations and she was aware of this? it depends on what she shared about her work with her partner though, you would think that she may share any work concerns with him, unless of course she had just discovered something very recently.

For what purpose would abduction serve someone else?

Maybe this discovery could have been why she had an in person meeting with her boss the day before when he drove over. Any sensitive info that she had discovered couldn't have been discussed on line and they could have looked at the evidence together in their in person meeting. It is strange she had this meeting and the very next day she disappeared. Could of course just be coincidence . He dad said she was upbeat that night after completing a mortgage not worried or concerned.