Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #13

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Sky news are reporting that the press conference will be 11.45 rather than 11.30.
Also the headline is interesting "Police are holding a news conference about the search for missing mother-of-two Nicola Bulley as they seek to combat disinformation about her disappearance."

Nicola Bulley update - live: Police giving news conference | UK News | Sky News
I'd like to see them take a really hard line on the disinfo. I hope they do but I won't set myself up for disappointment because my rational mind tells me they will not.
 
Yes, this in particular caught my attention. Supposing if Nicola had entered the river where she was last witnessed, in the top field. Could she have drifted the relatively short distance to where Blay Brook joins the river Wyre, where the underground portion is? It does seem unlikely, as it would be going against the flow, but perhaps a possibility if the river was quite still.


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It seems plausible. The fact the water was "about a foot higher" according to the PF sonar guy was interesting. I think someone did check the tide and it IMO may have been going out but I also think there may be some extraction for agriculture somewhere which in theory could reverse the flow of a river which is barely moving.

Interesting to know if that Weir is sometimes dry or if it always has some water going over it.
 
I know we have been over this a lot but in this article it states ‘Police extended their search into the sea after being unable to find her body but believe the mortgage adviser fell into the river during a "10-minute window" between 9.10am and 9.20am that day’

If she did indeed fall in the river in that 10 minute window how did her phone get back to the bench at 9.20am, unless planted?

I thought the theory was she fell in once back at the bench. JMO.

This could just be inaccurate reporting of course. JMO.

Its 'The Standard', infamous for getting it wrong.
 
What about the risk of instant cardiac arrest from cold water shock?
Again, the window of time issue. Surely there would have been sediment misplaced in a shallow river from the bed. It would have likely been obvious that someone had fallen in. If she’d slipped in, the mud would show it. If she’s been bowled in by the dog, there would have been a cloud of sediment. Nobody is gonna find a phone and loose dog and not look immediately at the river IMO. The river was searched so soon after, I honestly think she would have been found. JMO
 
Does anyone know where this is?

I imagine it is the brick building on the footpath. This was mentioned right at the start of these threads as something to have a look at.
IMO if it is a pumping station it will have an inlet and some sort of screen possibly with a hatch above it so that the debris can be cleared.
 
I know we have been over this a lot but in this article it states ‘Police extended their search into the sea after being unable to find her body but believe the mortgage adviser fell into the river during a "10-minute window" between 9.10am and 9.20am that day’

If she did indeed fall in the river in that 10 minute window how did her phone get back to the bench at 9.20am, unless planted?

I thought the theory was she fell in once back at the bench. JMO.

This could just be inaccurate reporting of course. JMO.

Maybe meaning that it never left the bench between 9:10-9:20...
 
I imagine it is the brick building on the footpath. This was mentioned right at the start of these threads as something to have a look at.
IMO if it is a pumping station it will have an inlet and some sort of screen possibly with a hatch above it so that the debris can be cleared.
In this article it looks like a different location

 
Does anybody know if cadaver dogs can pick up scents from bodies that sit inside water? i.e. if a body is underwater in a small river, could cadaver dogs picks up the scents downstream and follow it to the source?

There are specialist water recovery search dogs that sit on boats or work along the water’s edge and indicate when they detect human/cadaver related scents from released gases (as seen in photos from this search).

I would imagine some cadaver dogs would also do this from the water’s edge - but am not sure if they are trained for it specifically. My guess would be that given that most search/detection dogs are trained to only indicate ‘at source’ my guess would be that a handler would note a point of interest as a dog tried to locate the scent - but that they wouldn’t indicate a clear find. (Hence the need for dogs trained in water recovery)

I’m not sure how many specialist water search dogs there are in the UK, or indeed cadaver dogs - my understanding is that both can be very challenging to train and qualify for as a civilian/volunteer, given the availability of scent for training and the levels of training, confidence and certification needed for a dog whose ‘evidence’ may be needed in court.

More info on drowned victim search dogs at Home - The National Search And Rescue Dog Association
 
It seems plausible. The fact the water was "about a foot higher" according to the PF sonar guy was interesting. I think someone did check the tide and it IMO may have been going out but I also think there may be some extraction for agriculture somewhere which in theory could reverse the flow of a river which is barely moving.

Interesting to know if that Weir is sometimes dry or if it always has some water going over it.
I’m not sure how much credence to put on his statements. According to the gauges there was barely 10cm difference in level: River Wyre at St Michaels: River level and flood alerts
The river is only tidal up to the weir which is downstream of the bench. It is a rare occurrence for the tidal flow to breach the weir.
 
has anyone seen or discussed this article by sky news - its interesting the map shows the footpath goes all the way to Garstang road via between Rowanwater and the river wyre


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There is a fence where the white square tagged 'River Wyre footpath' is. The keycoded gate into Rowanwater is further along the treeline near the edge of the lake JMO
 
There is a fence where the white square tagged 'River Wyre footpath' is. The keycoded gate into Rowanwater is further along the treeline near the edge of the lake JMO
but the red line on the map is just outside the fence of the Rowanwater isn't it? i.e. not going through the Rowanwater premisis
 
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