Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #3

[Ellsbells]

The real time walk video on this link traces her exact footsteps.

While it looks very deserted on the path, there is also not really easy access for someone to get away or to hide a body if she had been attacked.

Coming to the bench you see the water there looks relatively low, so don't see how even if she had slipped she could have been dragged under .

Video tracks Nicola Bulley's journey to bench where phone was found

The hunt for Nicola Bulley entered a seventh day today as specialist diving teams continue attempts to trace the missing mortgage adviser after she vanished along the River Wyre in Lancashire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

it looks quite lonely, not sure I'd like to be that far away from people. The person who filmed this once off the road didn't encounter one single other person.

 

[todders]

Yes, but previous statements claim that Willow was initially discovered "running loose" by the first walker (from the caravan park), who didn't have time to stay with her so tied her up.

I know and i can understand all the confusion, but the reporting from msm has been all over the place iam relying on the le updates for the best information. IMO

 

[SanT88]

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

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I’m getting really stumped by this so I’m looking at the timeline and location info differently take. from the information on the police link.

8:45 Sighting 1: enters the gate by the bench.

9:10 (thereabouts) Sighting 2: in the upper field away from the bench (yet we don’t know the direction of travel)

So, IMO could the following be possible;

Enters the gate. Sits at the bench. Let’s the dog off the harness, dog plays, she does emails. Logs on to call. This could have been brief (do we know what time it ended). She’s happy, a bit distracted, has EarPod in. Decides to continue walk. Calls dog, walks towards the upper field, forgetting harness/lead/accidentally leaves phone, as if walking in a loop and something happens further up stream near the mobile home park. Have they searched the lake there or the static caravans??

I’m literally clutching at straws now.
I think the crooks of my point is that the first sighting was near the bench and the last one was away from it. This is MOO and happily stand corrected.

 

[JumpingFrog]

If someone took NB after the 2nd 9:10am witness saw her in the field, then it would be very hard for that abductor to then place the phone and lead at the bench and get away with NB unseen by anyone. My opinion.

I just don’t know what to think.

Moo speculation etc

Unless there were two perps

Hypothetical

 

[Kassanddra]

If someone took NB after the 2nd 9:10am witness saw her in the field, then it would be very hard for that abductor to then place the phone and lead at the bench and get away with NB unseen by anyone. My opinion.

I just don’t know what to think.

Just to add I also think it would be hard for a body in the water not to be seen.

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

If someone took NB after the 2nd 9:10am witness saw her in the field, then it would be very hard for that abductor to then place the phone and lead at the bench and get away with NB unseen by anyone. My opinion.

I just don’t know what to think.

I agree.

 

[Kassanddra]

@JumpingFrog yes could be 2 perps MOO

 

[Woodburnbay]

I strongly feel she never reached the area where the phone and dog were found.

MOO

I agree. Phone and dog lead harness put there.
Dog went there as they were the only personal items of reference as dog would be searching for its owner.

 

[Kassanddra]

Can someone clear up for me
The 09:10 sighting location on the police website, is that the bend in river with the bench?
No one actually saw her at bench did they.

 

[Dobby’s sock]

Just to add I also think it would be hard for a body in the water not to be seen.

I agree with this. Unless her jacket got quite heavy when wet and is weighing her down JMO

 

[Happygirlie2003]

I’ve got a horrible feeling about this but hope for her families sake my gut is proven wrong, how do we know it was Nicola herself sending the work email or logging onto the teams call, could it be whoever had her phone before it was left near the bench? Something hasn’t been adding up from the get go and I can’t pin point why when I stay so far away and don’t know the area. The fact she does the same walk is provoking a horrible feeling this wasn’t a random gone missing case and potentially pre planned

 

[Grouse]

I just refreshed the Lancs police update page and there is a map there now that wasn't when I looked earlier showing location of upper and lower fields etc. They're not quite where I'd thought but it does seem to confirm that NB went quite a way past the bench to where the 09:10 sighting was, and was possibly on her way back.

I've combined this and the Strava route posted on the previous thread I've put a route in yellow that NB may have been on between 09:10 and the finding of Willow back at the bench at 09:35 (ETA: distance of the yellow route is approx 300-400 metres)

The path on that route looks quite open but does pass a few lines of trees and also goes close to the Devine Camping Pods.

 

[Firstsnow4]

The new police update states where willow was found at what time. 09.35 at the bench

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

So the last sighting of NB was at approximately 9.10am on the upper field (east of the site) which is pretty close to Rowanwater (where the man with the fluffy dog was headed). Can you get straight onto the Rowanwater site or is it fenced off? As others have said there is quite a large body of water there too.

Rowanwater

maps.apple.com

 

[Woodburnbay]

Just some more thoughts of purely my own.

I wonder if willow was one of those dogs that ran ahead then ran back to owner over and over again on a walk?
Perhaps willow ran ahead facing away from NB and something happened in the window she was facing away. Then when willow couldn’t see NB anymore, she ran back to the place she Last saw her owner. Which was the bench area

My dog does that and a spaniel type. Rarely its me out of her sight. She will run ahead but will look back and if I was out of sight she would back track.

 

[Aliceinwonderland1234]

That walk looks so secluded not somewhere I would go alone.
The road looks a very busy one, could someone have spotted her walking and followed her?
Has the whole route been searched? Looks like a lot of bushes & undergrowth.

 

[vivienbee]

All speculation, if that was me I would have scaled the area looking for the owner of the dog, especially next to a river. I don't believe NB would have slipped and travelled so far down the river within 20 minutes and not be seen.

Looking at the riverbank from the different angles present in both the video footage of her walk route and from the perspective of the divers, I think it's possible that the drop at the very bottom is steep enough that you wouldn't see a person in the water from standing at the top. If it is as dangerous in certain parts as law enforcement is suggesting, I doubt bystanders would be scrambling down to the base to look over.

Source:
("I’d like to stress again parts of the riverbank are treacherous" -- Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought)

 

[Rhiandrath]

MOO but if there has been foul play I would suspect from someone who knows her and her movements very well and therefore knows it would feel normal to place her phone and dog lead in a place she could feasibly have gone in by accident. Hoping this isn't the case of course but I'm sat here feeling quite sick thinking about it

 

[msmarple99]

Lancashire Constabulary - Search continues for Nicola Bulley as potential new witness is sought

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I’m getting really stumped by this so I’m looking at the timeline and location info differently take. from the information on the police link.

8:45 Sighting 1: enters the gate by the bench.

9:10 (thereabouts) Sighting 2: in the upper field away from the bench (yet we don’t know the direction of travel)

So, IMO could the following be possible;

Enters the gate. Sits at the bench. Let’s the dog off the harness, dog plays, she does emails. Logs on to call. This could have been brief (do we know what time it ended). She’s happy, a bit distracted, has EarPod in. Decides to continue walk. Calls dog, walks towards the upper field, forgetting harness/lead/accidentally leaves phone, as if walking in a loop and something happens further up stream near the mobile home park. Have they searched the lake there or the static caravans??

I’m literally clutching at straws now.
I think the crooks of my point is that the first sighting was near the bench and the last one was away from it. This is MOO and happily stand corrected.

No sightings near the bench that's one of the variables

Can someone clear up for me
The 09:10 sighting location on the police website, is that the bend in river with the bench?
No one actually saw her at bench did they.

Nothe

That walk looks so secluded not somewhere I would go alone.
The road looks a very busy one, could someone have spotted her walking and followed her?
Has the whole route been searched? Looks like a lot of bushes & undergrowth.

I agree,she even called it spooky herself in Nov 22

 

[Taskforce88]

If someone took NB after the 2nd 9:10am witness saw her in the field, then it would be very hard for that abductor to then place the phone and lead at the bench and get away with NB unseen by anyone. My opinion.

I just don’t know what to think.

Unless the suspect walked with her back to the bench? But then where would they take her?

 

[jackal67]

Just watched the video appeal, wtf, “How much are you missing her?!” I’m guessing the reporter was told to say that to spark an emotive response? If anything has happened to her involving a third party it’s just horrific basically, that anyone could do that.

There has been a real feeling on previous threads that she never reached the bench. I’m guessing you guys have a lot more experience and the fact so many people are saying it. I hope you’re wrong though.

I have just watched sky news interview with parents and sister.Her dad stated that she drove kids to school and left her car in the school car park