Found Deceased UK - Nida Ul-Naseer, 18, Newport S. Wales, 28 Dec 2013

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mandrake said:
I must agree it is suggestive of a possible massive argument that lead to a accident and family cover up, I do recall that in one news report that she left her Phone, and no girl will leave her phone, money and more interestedly her shoes.
Reading an earlier blog it mentions that the shoes are placed in a heap by the door? And as I know this cull de sac in Newport it has one or two very interesting features all the houses over look each other in a square like formation so someone might have seen something and it also has an echo, so you could discount a stalker unless they lived in the street as there is no were for them to lurk
. No cars or vans would be able to go in and out quickly and a struggling girl would make some noise
There is one way in for traffic and a low wall and small entrance for foot traffic. Now the interesting thing is the shoes. There is large stone flags all around the house and believe me to walk any distance on them is cold and painful I've done it myself in bare feet. Add to this the strange and possibly stilted and suggestive body language of the family on the news reports although this is a subjective science if you could call it a science at all. You could argue that they did not want to be here and as I said it is suggestive and why did they put a printed note on the door why not a hand written message to come home something more personal?
As I say very suggestive.
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Does anyone know if the house has been searched? Because if no one saw her leave, and no CCTV shows her in the vicinity of the house, logic says there is a good chance she is still there.

Or she left, but not by foot - and not 'under her own steam'.

I don't believe, for one minute, that a teenage girl would walk out barefoot in the middle of winter, with no coat - and stay out.

If it was in the midst of a row, then you might briefly storm out .... but surely someone in the family would have run out after her and persuaded her to come back. You wouldn't just watch your daughter/sister walk away from home in very cold temperatures with no chance of staying warm, and do nothing.

Equally, on the off-chance someone did walk out in temper, the cold would bring them back before long. A row over university would not (IMO) lead someone to risk hypothermia or injury, by staying out in 3-4 degree temperatures, barefoot and coatless.

If she left AFTER a row, with no one watching her, then she would have taken the time to pack a bag with at least her phone, some money, a few items of clothing, and she would definitely have put on shoes and a coat.

Equally, you wouldn't put the bins out barefoot in the middle of a UK winter.

All MOO. I'm just sad this isn't getting much publicity in the UK. And strange that the family are so quiet. If it was one of my children, I'd be using every means possible to keep this in the public eye.
 
What are the odds that this was a planned escape? She could have made some friends the family do not know through college who decided to help her get away. Since their asylum request was turned down and there were waiting for the appeal decision, maybe she was afraid of having to return to Pakistan and decided to disappear voluntarily?
 
This is the third version of 'why Nida disappeared' that we have heard.

1) Just disappeared while putting the trash out
2) Disappeared after a sudden row about Uni (long after applications had gone in) - while putting the trash out
3) Disappeared after a long build-up of depression about university - but she still thought to take the trash out before leaving, possibly in a suicidal state.

Nida went missing on December 28th 2013. It's now February 3rd 2014. In over a month, the last known people to see Nida alive have not presented a clear, single account of what took place the night she disappeared. In my opinion.
 
Nida's sister Shamyla says in that interview that Nida was depressed for two years, and in that state a person doesn't think about putting on shoes or dressing properly.

That doesn't really reconcile with Nida's teacher's accounts of her as a beautifully behaved, 'model student'. If she had been turning up depressed and half dressed or shoeless, I would have thought they might have noticed.
 
The family need to pick one "story" and stick with it

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pol100gk said:
What are the odds that this was a planned escape? She could have made some friends the family do not know through college who decided to help her get away. Since their asylum request was turned down and there were waiting for the appeal decision, maybe she was afraid of having to return to Pakistan and decided to disappear voluntarily?
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I wish, but I think it is highly unlikely. Sheltering someone's runaway unmarried daughter in a home would be a huge misstep for any member of the local Pakistani community. It's proved dangerous in the past.

If Nida was in an official shelter, police would have been informed she was safe.

If Nida was hiding out elsewhere, she still couldn't get to university. The most she could hope for would be a low level, blackmarket job. Employers face big fines now for taking on people without documents. With Nida's upbringing and character traits as set out by family and teachers, I just don't think she was equipped to go underground, with all the risks that involves for a young woman.

Also, she would have taken her shoes.
 
I think that the pressure put on some immigrant teenagers to behave like they would in their country of origin is enormous. You move your children to a country with a different culture with freedom of choice and you don't allow them to partake of the choices, even when they are technically adults. I suspect that this is what drove Nida away - the argument was about some element of her life that was unacceptable to her parents or alternatively that her parents wanted her to do something that she felt strongly against. She felt her parents could "make" her.

The two options are that she ran to a friends home, and was able to get shoes and transport elsewhere to escape what she considered an oppressive household (we've all seen that before) or she was despondent over what she perceived as no way out and took her own life.

I hope its the first option.
 
zwiebel said:
I wish, but I think it is highly unlikely. Sheltering someone's runaway unmarried daughter in a home would be a huge misstep for any member of the local Pakistani community. It's proved dangerous in the past.
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I wonder if having a university boyfriend or ambitions to be more than a pakistani wife could have proved dangerous?
 
Four police language specialists (Urdu and Punjabi) have been called into help with the search. I think that's a great move in this case, as many in the local community will have English only as a second language. I really hope this leads to a breakthrough in finding Nida. Wales police really are exploring every route they can for this young girl.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-26023226
 
sar2them1984 said:
The family need to pick one "story" and stick with it

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Might be an idea to check for inconsistencies in their statements too.

"For two years she was on that depression then you can't even think about your shoes, you can't even think about your dress you can't think about anything, you can't think about your family, you only think about what you really want," she said.
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BUT IN TOTAL CONTRADICTION:

Nida's mother Najma Tahir, speaking through an interpreter, said: "She used to love us, she used to take care of us, always, always she take care of us."
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-26014598

Just MOO, but it makes me very uncomfortable that the main question asked regarding her disappearance - the lack of shoes and clothing - has now suddenly been explain by her apparent mental illness. Something she isn't here to confirm or deny.

I'd be interested to know if this depression had been properly diagnosed and treated by a doctor.
 
zwiebel said:
I'd love to hear from Nida's college friends. But if they are posting somewhere, I haven't found it.

Interesting article from the Guardian here.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/dec/03/honour-crimes-uk-rising
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Apparently, according to Nida's mother, she didn't have any friends.

Mrs Tahir said her daughter did not have any friends.

"She would never meet anybody so I really don't know where she's gone," she said.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-26014598

Didn't have .... or wasn't allowed? MOO.

There is a Find Nida FB page. Not much posted on it though. Its very sad to contrast the lack of action and social media postings to the case of Megan in York. Poor Nida, sounds like the life she did have before disappearing was not a very happy one.
 
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