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I'm not sure of the date, but I don't think she looked after any patients after Baby Q?
I think she had a couple more shifts.
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I'm not sure of the date, but I don't think she looked after any patients after Baby Q?
I thought the 29th was when the consultants had a meeting, then Dr J when home and read an article about AE and shivers ran down his spineWas it the 29th she was finally moved to clerical duties? So the executive still didn't take any immediate action even when Baby Q collapsed the next day. I'm assuming that's when the group of doctors demanded something be done.
I think she had a couple more shifts.
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Did she? Goodness, what must those conversations have been like!
I thought the 29th was when the consultants had a meeting, then Dr J when home and read an article about AE and shivers ran down his spine
"Happy to take responsibility"He was told 'no' and that 'there was no evidence', the exec was 'happy to take responsibility' for Ms Letby continuing
I think she had a couple more shifts.
They didn't specify which days she worked the following week after child Q's collapse on the Saturday. We know consultants met on Weds 29th and Dr J emailed them the following day, Thu 30th. She submitted the Datix report on 30th.I thought the 29th was when the consultants had a meeting, then Dr J when home and read an article about AE and shivers ran down his spine
JMO but literally suboptimal care is the FIRST thing that anyone thinks about when something unexpected happens or a resuscitation doesn't go as expected. Debriefs after resus are a standard part of care and the purpose is to say, "hey, what did we do well, and what could we do better next time?" Part of the debrief includes maintaining a nonjudgmental/just culture environment to allow for total honesty and the greatest improvement.
Literally no one jumps straight to, "Yeah my coworker is deliberately harming babies." No one. JMO.
Following Child P’s death she said, Letby was “extremely upset and emotional”.
The boys’ mother added: “She was in pieces, almost as upset as we were.”
Parents of triplets ‘begged for baby to be moved to new hospital after brothers died’
He said he asked how she was feeling and 'can remember suggesting to her to take the weekend off to recover' 'She didn’t seem overly upset to me in the debrief and told me at the time she was on shift next day which was a Saturday'
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Ah so yup she worked another three shifts, after Baby Q's collapse.They didn't specify which days she worked the following week after child Q's collapse on the Saturday. We know consultants met on Weds 29th and Dr J emailed them the following day, Thu 30th. She submitted the Datix report on 30th.
Other than three days the following week, that was the last time Lucy Letby worked in the neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital, the court is told.
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
The fact they were already aware of concerns and he raised it again after 2 deaths of the triplets and they said this is absolutely staggering imo. These poor families"Happy to take responsibility"
This time has come IMO
Could there be a clue in this about her possible psychology, if guilty?
Very upset only in front of the parents? Perhaps wanting to 'share' or 'feed off' their suffering?
It could be a form of manipulation too. JMOCould there be a clue in this about her possible psychology, if guilty?
Very upset only in front of the parents? Perhaps wanting to 'share' or 'feed off' their suffering?
edited by me, i was being insensitive.
They have to cover every angle. And better they do so now, and that way, if guilty, there's a better chance that any conviction will be watertight.This is what I don't understand. There was an external review about the standards of care, wasn't there? And when they found nothing that could explain the deaths, that's when they initiated a police investigation.
Why is the defence going down these lines when there's already been evidence to disprove that suboptimal care is responsible?
Dan O'Donoghue
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Mr Myers put it to Dr Brearey that if there was a basis for his suspicions, he would have gone to the police. Dr Brearey said he and his colleagues were trying to "escalate appropriately" and needed "executive support" to decide the "correct plan of action going forward".
Dan O'Donoghue
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Dr Brearey added: "It's not something anyone wanted to consider, that a member of staff is harming babies. The senior nursing staff on the unit didn't believe this could be true."
Dan O'Donoghue
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Dr Brearey said with every "unusual" episode of baby collapse between June 2015 and June 2016 there was "increasing suspicion" about Ms Letby, which led him to eventually escalate his concerns and request she be taken off shift.
Dan O'Donoghue
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A doctor, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is now in the witness box. She is recalling the events of June 23 - when Child O collapsed several times and eventually died
"Mirroring" IMOCould there be a clue in this about her possible psychology, if guilty?
Very upset only in front of the parents? Perhaps wanting to 'share' or 'feed off' their suffering?
edited by me, i was being insensitive.