UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999 - 2002

[IHAVENOCLUE]

OMG she went on Rachel Ray??????

More tack, how could she be so tacky, oh god, worse those two have daughters who are yet to delight us with their own scandals.

The Duchess of York said 24-year-old daughter Eugenie still sits on her lap, and thinks Donny Osmond is 'very cool'.

'I did actually try to sing Puppy Love,' she says.

'We call ourselves the tripod. Mummy, Beatrice and Eugenie. We're best friends, and then sometimes I'm mummy,' she continues.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...inst-Prince-Andrew-lies-TV.html#ixzz3P6kAt8EU

Gee, thanks mum for telling that one, and hilarious that they call each other the tripod, that means something so different in Australia, but I wont go there.

Maybe it would be best to leave the children out of the ongoing "conversations" regarding Andrew's situation...

IMO...

 

[Elley Mae]

Ya know I am not having any prob w/ fergie and adrew still hanging out and living together, i don't know if she has a job or what but if them two are still kissy face and huggybear and all is good that is fantastic! But if he did what is being suggested and she was under age that is a no-no, if she was of age where ever they were then he should be fess up and be done with it. jmo jmo I always thought he & fergie where so cute, with them still together so to speak & her sticking up for him maybe they should stay together.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Prince Andrew to break silence on ‘sex slave’ scandal

http://pagesix.com/2015/01/19/princ...candal/?_ga=1.260375245.1126446268.1335160290

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Swear on oath you're innocent, lawyers for 'sex slave' tell Prince: Andrew under growing pressure to testify after rejecting letter asking for his 'voluntary co-operation'

Virginia Roberts's lawyers served Duke letter over allegations they had sex

They asked for Duke's 'voluntary cooperation' to be questioned over claims

But her lawyers stated: ‘The letter has been refused by the recipient’

Roberts claims guards left her alone with Prince first time he abused her

Details emerged in documents filed at the Palm Beach court house, Florida

New papers shows Miss Roberts’s determination to pursue Prince, 54

She also issued attack on Andrew's 'false and hurtful' denials of her claims

Bombshell came as Palace officials arrive in Switzerland with Andrew for World Economic Forum


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...asking-voluntary-operation.html#ixzz3PVMfjayD

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Prince Andrew and ‘sex slave’ Virginia Roberts linked in flight logs

PRINCE Andrew was in the same place as alleged “sex slave” Virginia Roberts on three occasions she claims they had sex, it emerged.

Flight logs for the private jet owned by the Prince’s former friend Jeffrey Epstein show the teenager’s movements in 2001, when she claims she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York three times.

Reports show Andrew was in London when Roberts claims they were photographed together with his arm around her waist.

In early April that year they were both in New York and then in the Caribbean in the same week.

http://www.news.com.au/national/pri...d-in-flight-logs/story-e6frfkp9-1227193020060

Eeeeeeeek ...

 

[Jmoose]

I'd like to know where the parents of all of these underage girls were-I mean, they weren't kidnapped from their homes, right? So the parents weren't looking for them, were they? I think of them less as sex slaves, and more like underage call girls who were compensated and who eventually aged out. That certainly doesn't make it any better, because they were victims of some sort of charm assault by Epstein, that brought them to that point. I was thinking at the beginning that the charge against Prince Andrew wasn't true, but that is starting to change, and I think it could be possible. What the *ell is wrong with people?!

 

[Tugela]

It would just be her word against his, there is no way for either of them to prove what they are saying is true. If she was flying around with Epstein, and Epstein met Andrew then she probably would have met him too since she was there. No doubt many people who meet him socially have their pictures taken with him, that is the nature of celebrity. She met him, so what? That doesn't mean they had sex, the picture she claims to have does not mean anything other than that they met at some point.

In either case, the fact that she was being paid all this money means that she was not a "slave" and unlikely to have been forced to do anything. She got paid large amounts of money for whatever it was that she was doing, and when the money stopped coming lawsuits started is what it looks like. She wants more IMO, that is what this is all about.

I do agree with earlier posters, she was still a minor while all this was supposedly going on, so where the hell were her parents in all of this? She was supposedly flying all over the world with this millionaire and nobody thought to ask questions????

 

[Tugela]

Hmmm....so the pictures of her in New Mexico, she says "I was approximately 17 at the time, judging from the looks of it". If she remembered the event, wouldn't she know how old she was? That is a strange statement to make.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Alan Dershowitz denies EVER being around underage women in presence of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein... just one day after 'sex slave' said he would chat with the billionaire during sex acts

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ies-underage-women-Epstein.html#ixzz3PZTEBVIS

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Maybe it would be best to leave the children out of the ongoing "conversations" regarding Andrew's situation...

IMO...

Quoting myself to clarify...

My suggestion was to momma Fergie... Not WSers...

Fergie is doing nothing to help them sharing embarrassing news items...

Sorry if I was not clear...

:seeya:

 

[Mrs G Norris]

BREAKING NEWS: Prince Andrew breaks his silence over sex scandal to publicly deny claims he slept with underage teenager

The Duke of York today for the first time publicly denied allegations he had underage sex with a teenager, 'reiterating and reaffirming' Buckingham Palace statements that rebutted the claims.

Prince Andrew was in Davos, Switzerland, to meet the world's most rich and powerful people as he faced growing pressure to testify on oath about his contacts with the alleged ‘sex slave'.

The 54-year-old, who is fifth in line to the throne, said: 'Firstly, I think I must want for the record to refer to the events that have taken place in the last few weeks.

‘And I just wish to reiterate and to reaffirm the statements which have already been made on my behalf by Buckingham Palace. My focus is on my work.'

Virginia Roberts claims she had sex three times with the Duke of York including at an orgy on a Caribbean island involving eight other young girls.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-called-swear-oath-innocent-sex-claims.html

 

[BirdycatNY]

I don't know much about this case, so I won't discuss the scandal other than to say that I am relieved Mr. Epstein served prison time. I just want to point out that sex trafficking/human trafficking is a very real problem and needs to be addressed in this country and around the world.

Here's some stats on trafficking in U.S. http://www.polarisproject.org/human-trafficking/sex-trafficking-in-the-us
http://www.traffickingresourcecenter.org/type-trafficking/sex-trafficking

What bothers me about this case besides Epstein's disgusting conduct, is the thought that in a "free and civilized" country like U.S. that there are individuals and potentially public figures that are aware or partaking in sex trafficking/underage sexual relations or turning a blind eye to it. People who profess "freedom" and yet turn a blind eye to sexual exploitation of youth, women or men. If anything I hope the tides start to turn and those individuals in this country that are orchestrating/involved in human/sex trafficking are exposed and brought to justice regardless of status.

What's also interesting to me about some of these more recent high-profile cases is the alleged use of "modeling agencies". (Agency boss allegedly gave Epstein models for orgy, By Natalie O'Neill, January 9, 2015, 11:22pm http://pagesix.com/2015/01/09/modeling-honcho-allegedly-gave-epstein-young-models-for-orgy/ ). Maybe LE needs to thoroughly investigate the role that modeling agencies play in such cases, like Epstein, Cosby etc. and take them down if criminal. And maybe this is like the first domino in a number of rings. Jmo

oh, and I bet the Queen is furious, jmo.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

All aboard the 'Lolita Express': Flight logs reveal the many trips Bill Clinton and Alan Dershowitz took on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's private jet with anonymous women

Flight logs for Jeffrey Epstein's private plane dubbed the 'Lolita Express' were published for the first time on Thursday

They show that former President Bill Clinton boarded the plane with women believed to have been involved in creating underage sex slave ring

Alleged victim Virginia Roberts says she was recruited as a slave when she was 15, and that she was forced to have sex with both Prince Andrew and Harvard law profession Alan Dershowitz

The latter, she says, molested her mid-flight on the private jet

Both the Duke of York and Dershowitz have fiercely denied their involvement in the ring


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rivate-jet-anonymous-women.html#ixzz3PcScNRh3

 

[KEVINinTO]

RT.com: Flight logs show President Clinton took more than a dozen flights on Jeffrey Epsteins private jets!

http://rt.com/usa/225399-clinton-flight-logs-epstein/

Link to flight logs: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html


Epstein owns two private jets:

A 727 tail number N908JE . Interestingly the tail number is not blocked for tracking and you can see previous flights at this link:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N908JE

A picture of the jet (from Flightaware.com) http://e1.photos.flightcdn.com/photos/retriever/2dad72de19630c4d84ba4e1b13c2c8c710f38545


The second jet is a Gulfstream ll tail number N909JE. This jet is blocked for tracking "at the request of the owner"

Picture of the jet from Flickr.com (Didier Didairbus)



In this Youtube video you can actually see Epstein's former girlfriend - Nadia Marcinkova - co-piloting the Gulfstream jet! Back then she was known as "Gulfstream Girl" (since changed to "Global Girl for her popular FB page). In a screwy plea-bargain - Nadia Marcinkova was granted immunity from prosecution in exchange for not testifying against Epstein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywpIT4mGYI

 

[newone]

snipped by me
KEVinTo's post.....
In this Youtube video you can actually see Epstein's former girlfriend - Nadia Marcinkova - co-piloting the Gulfstream jet! Back then she was known as "Gulfstream Girl" (since changed to "Globel Girl for her popular FB page). In a screwy plea-bargain - Nadia Marcinkova was granted immunity from prosecution in exchange for not testifying against Epstein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywpIT4mGYI[/QUOTE]


I had to read that several times before the ''penny dropped'' -- "oh I see'"........too embarrassing for folks in high places??? MOO

 

[KEVINinTO]

I had to read that several times before the ''penny dropped'' -- "oh I see'"........too embarrassing for folks in high places??? MOO

Yes it appears that the plea-bargain was meant to protect some very powerful people. Usually immunity from prosecution is offered in exchange for testimony - not for pleading the fifth.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-admits-being-foolish-4961541

During one case Marcinkova was asked: “Have you ever been made to perform sexually on Prince Andrew?”

She answered simply “Fifth” – referring to the Fifth Amendment. She then repeated it to any further questions.

Another integral player in the billionaire’s circle, Marcinkova became known as the “live-in lesbian”.

She was at the centre of Epstein’s prostitution case in 2007 after serving as his “assistant”.

According to court documents, she helped procure underage girls for Epstein. She even took part in the sex herself, according to testimony given to the Palm Beach police.

One victim’s affidavit reveals when she gave a massage to Epstein “Nadia Marcinkova was also present”.

Marcinkova herself may have also been a victim, since Epstein reportedly bragged he had “purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia” and “brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave”

 

[gregjrichards]

I don't know if Prince Andrew is guilty or not but in every single photo the last few days he looks demented with worry. I would be very interested to have someone read his body language during his Davos speech and what their thoughts are. I keep checking Dr. Lillian Glass's blog hoping she will do a post on him. President Clinton is being dragged into the affair now with his flights on the plane but nothing more yet. It is difficult to believe that people like Prince Andrew were naive enough to think Epstein's activities would never be in the public domain. And that they didn't realise that even if they are innocent they would be presumed guilty by association by the public. I would love to be a fly on the wall in Buckingham Palace to find out what her Majesty the Queen thinks of all this.

 

[badhorsie]

I don't know if Prince Andrew is guilty or not but in every single photo the last few days he looks demented with worry. I would be very interested to have someone read his body language during his Davos speech and what their thoughts are. I keep checking Dr. Lillian Glass's blog hoping she will do a post on him. President Clinton is being dragged into the affair now with his flights on the plane but nothing more yet. It is difficult to believe that people like Prince Andrew were naive enough to think Epstein's activities would never be in the public domain. And that they didn't realise that even if they are innocent they would be presumed guilty by association by the public. I would love to be a fly on the wall in Buckingham Palace to find out what her Majesty the Queen thinks of all this.

BBM, I see it as arrogance and yes, he does look demented with worry and so he should be

 

[Donjeta]

Epstein’s chief pilot Larry Visoski, 54, has admitted he knew minors were being flown on his boss’s plane but said he never suspected him of having sex with them.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-admits-being-foolish-4961541

so what did he think his boss was flying young girls around the world for??

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Oh I would so love to hear Prince Phillips unedited thoughts on all this! It'd be unprintable.

I think Hilary Clinton can kiss her presidential dreams goodbye too, she really should have divorced Bill over Monica and now it's come back to bite her.

Love how all the logs are matching up with Virginia's story .. Lolita Express indeed.