GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #6

[Insp.Dots]

Flash with bleach spray. Now contents of Wilki bag: pair black Boohoo ankle boot, size 5, pair of brown leather ankle boots, black mini USB charger

I wonder if a pair of these shoes were SH, what she wore when helping dismember BW.

5 yellow and green pan scourers, a pair of black polyco matrix gloves, size 13 yrs t-shirt, a clear plastic zip up bag with brown parcel tape also found - 13 yr old shorts WTH??

Also found was a black plastic pretty pink make up case. Dark blue Boohoo puffer jacket Size 8 on a pink hanger.

Other items include a navy blue size Small hooded top, a checked shirt, a Boohoo Medium size top, a grey top on a select hanger, a green/brown size 10 jacket and a box of make up

The Puffa Jacket was put out in media as what BW may have been wearing so I think all the clothes bar what NM/SH wore were taken to make it look like Becky had run away. They thought they were being clever....can even imagine them congratulating each other on their accomplishments! Sick!!!!!

 

[Bluey]

It seems most likely to me these clothes and shoes got blood on them, but I also wondered if they possibly have grabbed some of Becky's things from her room, to make it look like she'd taken clothes, shoes and make up with her when she 'disappeared'.


PS thanks all as ever for the updates, insights and ideas.


Edit: typo

 

[mrazda71]

Regarding a duvet cover and pillow case found - I seem to recall that when the photos of Becky's bedroom were shown that it looked to me as though it was a bare duvet and pillow - as if the covers had been taken off ...

 

[sar2them1984]

It seems most likely to me these clothes and shoes got blood on them, but I also wondered if they possibly have grabbed some of Becky's things from her room, to make it look like she'd taken clothes, shoes and make up with her when she 'disappeared'.


PS thanks all as ever for the updates, insights and ideas.


Edit: typo

Yes hence why some items are on hangers..

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[sar2them1984]

Regarding a duvet cover and pillow case found - I seem to recall that when the photos of Becky's bedroom were shown that it looked to me as though it was a bare duvet and pillow - as if the covers had been taken off ...

I thought that but all the reports I've read state that it was a duvet that was found not a duvet case...I'm not sure

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[Edinlass]

Regarding a duvet cover and pillow case found - I seem to recall that when the photos of Becky's bedroom were shown that it looked to me as though it was a bare duvet and pillow - as if the covers had been taken off ...

Ahhhh I thought the exact same now I think about it. Good observation

 

[Cherwell]

Yes, I agree. The only bit I'm unsure of is 'why they didn't come clean with Police when SH &NM arrested. They would have known it was then as it was right next to them. Unless NM told them he was 'expecting' Police to search as routine and he needed to get rid of the stuff until they had. I think that would be plausible. Good to see the 2 who live at house have pleaded Guilty to assisting, I'm hoping they will have been totally honest post arrest. Time will tell.

Absolutely, that would make perfect sense to me.
I wouldn't be rummaging through it either, wouldn't want to implicate myself further.
Then I think once the awful possibilities began to dawn, I would be too shocked and scared to do anything right away.

But that's just me

 

[Insp.Dots]

Could any of our experts say what Police/Prosecution need to prove MURDER for SH and NM, the stuff they took of Becky's to make it look like she's run away show's 'fore thought' but they need to prove Murder rather than Manslaughter as NM is going for. Just wondering what else would prove the Murder part? Thanks in advance. I think if I was SH's lawyer I would be telling her to change her plea immediately as she is likely to be ripped apart if they put her on the stand! All MOO

 

[Insp.Dots]

Absolutely, that would make perfect sense to me.
I wouldn't be rummaging through it either, wouldn't want to implicate myself further.
Then I think once the awful possibilities began to dawn, I would be too shocked and scared to do anything right away.

But that's just me

Yes, I totally agree Cherwell. From everything I have read the 'four' are well liked and wouldn't dream of doing this (according to family & friends). I can't help but feel some sympathy for them. As I said I'm hoping when they come to give evidence they literally tell the whole truth and exactly what happened. Think that then will give the option for a lesser sentence, the couple pleaded guilty to assisting at the first so it's possible. IMO.
I think JI should have done the same, he may regret that!

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Absolutely, that would make perfect sense to me.
I wouldn't be rummaging through it either, wouldn't want to implicate myself further.
Then I think once the awful possibilities began to dawn, I would be too shocked and scared to do anything right away.

But that's just me

I'd probably move it immediately on to a random outdoor place and make a breathy midnight call to the police to check it out.

 

[Alyce]

It seems most likely to me these clothes and shoes got blood on them, but I also wondered if they possibly have grabbed some of Becky's things from her room, to make it look like she'd taken clothes, shoes and make up with her when she 'disappeared'.


PS thanks all as ever for the updates, insights and ideas.


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Indeed............and as has been said ( elsewhere ) would a man think to take make up ?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Indeed............and as has been said ( elsewhere ) would a man think to take make up ?

Good thinking, has to be SH!

 

[Alyce]

Could any of our experts say what Police/Prosecution need to prove MURDER for SH and NM, the stuff they took of Becky's to make it look like she's run away show's 'fore thought' but they need to prove Murder rather than Manslaughter as NM is going for. Just wondering what else would prove the Murder part? Thanks in advance. I think if I was SH's lawyer I would be telling her to change her plea immediately as she is likely to be ripped apart if they put her on the stand! All MOO

I dont think her barrister will put her on the stand - unless of course she insists, which I doubt.
I do wonder, as I commented yesterday, if this is the reason the video interviews with SH have been shown to Jury. Prosecution arguing that this will be the only opportunity for Jury to see SH actually speak.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I wonder if we'll get text/phone records. Surely somewhere there must be a "Nathan mate, wtf is in those bags in my shed?"

 

[PrimeSuspect]

The Breeze SouthWest ‏@breezesouthwest 1m1 minute ago

#BeckyWatts trial:
Items found at NM and SH home included: Asda receipt, 5 receipts rolled up, empty bottle of drain cleaner, 99p store bag.

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 48s49 seconds ago

Court now being told of items seized from NM and SH's address - including a number of receipts and a boot liner with hair on it.

https://twitter.com/breezesouthwest


( i was confused by what a boot liner is, i immediately thought boots you wear, duh! Googled, it's the boot of the car liner.

 

[sar2them1984]

And wrappings for masks and gloved found in their rubbish bin outside - dimwits

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[PrimeSuspect]

I wonder if we'll get text/phone records. Surely somewhere there must be a "Nathan mate, wtf is in those bags in my shed?"

Lets hope for their sake, they did, I can't believe they were in on this. IMO, it was a 2 man operation, NM and SH.

 

[sar2them1984]

So far, and we are now on day 7 of the trial, Neither Nathan nor Shauna have shown any signs of emotion. Both sit with expressionless faces.

Circular power saw box found behind the bed in Nathans and Shaunas master bedroom


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[PrimeSuspect]

So far, and we are now on day 7 of the trial, Neither Nathan nor Shauna have shown any signs of emotion. Both sit with expressionless faces.

Circular power saw box found behind the bed in Nathans and Shaunas master bedroom


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NM hoarding again, which is good in this case.

 

[sar2them1984]

A black piece of fabric - the lining from the boot of a car - was found inside a cooker IN the bathroom

???????????

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