Found Deceased UK - Samantha Eastwood, 28, Stoke-on-Trent, 27 July 2018 *Arrest*

[cottonweaver]

Also forgot to add , this is a woman who broke off a wedding when she realised it was a mistake to proceed so could it not be said that she's no pushover/will say No to someone like MS and stick to her guns?

 

[Sark06]

Also forgot to add , this is a woman who broke off a wedding when she realised it was a mistake to proceed so could it not be said that she's no pushover/will say No to someone like MS and stick to her guns?

I'm sure I remember the sisters tv appeal saying something along the lines of SE being a direct talker in her description or have I imagined that?

 

[Yozzer]

Also forgot to add , this is a woman who broke off a wedding when she realised it was a mistake to proceed so could it not be said that she's no pushover/will say No to someone like MS and stick to her guns?

Yes her own sister has stated this.
Mystery deepens over midwife Samantha Eastwood who vanished a week ago | Daily Mail Online
Gemma, a support worker, fought back tears as she read a statement at Staffordshire Police's HQ saying. 'Samantha is a happy, bubbly and smiley woman.

'She can be very straight and direct.

 

[Logic-lady]

Or maybe they had planned to spend time together on the Friday night, he told KS he was off on his own, she called it off, he threatened her, she volunteered to work so she could avoid him if he turned up, she told colleague if I don't show up come looking for me

I do think it's interesting that SE's close friend, (she was one of the people who went to her house that Friday night) stated so categorically that SE wan't seeing anyone. I got the impression that this was her subtle way of publicly stating that any advances by MS were not reciprocated by SE.

 

[cottonweaver]

Yes her own sister has stated this.
Mystery deepens over midwife Samantha Eastwood who vanished a week ago | Daily Mail Online
Gemma, a support worker, fought back tears as she read a statement at Staffordshire Police's HQ saying. 'Samantha is a happy, bubbly and smiley woman.

'She can be very straight and direct.

Tx for link . will have a read, only saw her TV appeal.

 

[kongpick2018]

I do think it's interesting that SE's close friend, (she was one of the people who went to her house that Friday night) stated so categorically that SE wan't seeing anyone. I got the impression that this was her subtle way of publicly stating that any advances by MS were not reciprocated by SE.

Or she didn’t want to reveal she knew about an affair to the general public/MSM incase this compromised any future charges towards MS?

 

[Logic-lady]

Or she didn’t want to reveal she knew about an affair to the general public/MSM incase this compromised any future charges towards MS?

Perhaps! It just struck me as odd since the police had already stated a relationship had recently broken down for her to then categorically state that SE wasn't seeing anyone.

Either way I feel incredibly sorry for the E & P families...lots of supposition and inference flying about. They are processing some very tough emotions right now.

 

[Insp.Dots]

Thanks for that clip Alyce! Interesting to note that the Citroen Picasso parked in the drive with the caravan does not have the fixtures required to mount a roof box on to the roof ... the white van being removed DOES have the roof rack for the roof box.
So surely a neighbour couldn’t have seen a roof box being put on to the car?!

BBM I'm not sure if that is MS's Citroen, i think more likely SS or the 28 yr old.

Do we know whose house it was with the Caravan? I am wondering if it could be the 28yr old? After a lot of reviewing on Google street view and media reports I have worked out there were 2 houses in Cromer road and 2 in Gratton Road all searched. So I am assuming 1 is MS & KS, 1 is SS & CS (parents) 1 is the empty Grandparents and 1 is the 28 yr olds.
Do we know if there have been any actual charges made against SS & 28yr old yet? Also, do we have any confirmation on MS’s car as yet?

 

[Yozzer]

Perhaps! It just struck me as odd since the police had already stated a relationship had recently broken down for her to then categorically state that SE wasn't seeing anyone.

Yes the DS leading the investigation emphasised this too:
He added that she had been in a relationship and engaged, but it had been broken off earlier in the year and she is currently single and living alone.
Sister of missing midwife makes tearful appeal after neighbours 'hear scream' on day of disappearance

Do you think this might have been directed at neighbours who may have assumed MS was SE's new boyfriend if he was seen outside in the garden doing the summerhouse - to signal to them that he was NOT and therefore to contact police? Also to preserve her dignity and head off any gossip which may have begun to emerge locally?
On a different case, Claudia Lawrence (missing since 2009), it has been suggested that support and goodwill was lost when the press began printing salacious tales about CL's personal life.

 

[Logic-lady]

Yes the DS leading the investigation emphasised this too:
He added that she had been in a relationship and engaged, but it had been broken off earlier in the year and she is currently single and living alone.
Sister of missing midwife makes tearful appeal after neighbours 'hear scream' on day of disappearance

Do you think this might have been directed at neighbours who may have assumed MS was SE's new boyfriend if he was seen outside in the garden doing the summerhouse - to signal to them that he was NOT and therefore to contact police? Also to preserve her dignity and head off any gossip which may have begun to emerge locally?
On a different case, Claudia Lawrence (missing since 2009), it has been suggested that support and goodwill was lost when the press began printing salacious tales about CL's personal life.

I agree...particularly when it was a missing person case. The police may have wanted people to focus on getting her back, if people assumed she was having an affair they may be less likely to report sightings of her.

 

[Jennifer17]

I agree...particularly when it was a missing person case. The police may have wanted people to focus on getting her back, if people assumed she was having an affair they may be less likely to report sightings of her.

With every young woman missing or murdered, there is always gossip about sexual misbehaviour, but it does not seem to apply to men. The double standard.

 

[Logic-lady]

With every young woman missing or murdered, there is always gossip about sexual misbehaviour, but it does not seem to apply to men. The double standard.

Very true...but as we have seen from another case we have followed Jennifer, double standards apply on both sides unfortunately

 

[Yozzer]

Just a few late night thoughts....Something I've just noticed...quite trivial really but I'll mention it. I had assumed there was a possibility the duvet cover was removed from SE's bed but I see that it has been described by several sources as a 'single' duvet cover. SE would probably have had a double bed (and therefore a double duvet) so this suggests MS may have had to enter another bedroom or rummage in a bedding cupboard for it unless he went prepared (which would be VERY organised of him). On reflection if MS had been in SE's b/room, he would not have wanted to use a cover which contained his dna. I wonder if he wore gloves (again, was he this organised?).

 

[Cherwell]

With every young woman missing or murdered, there is always gossip about sexual misbehaviour, but it does not seem to apply to men. The double standard.

That's not true. In any such case, the victim's relationships and behaviour may be connected to what has happened to them. Sex, money and revenge are the three most common motives behind murder, regardless of the victim's gender. Are you familiar with the Corrie McKeague case? There has certainly been plenty of discussion about his sexual behaviour.

 

[LucyRocket]

Why the tape on her face? In my view, it puts him in the weirdo psycho basket no matter what his reason.

I can understand this. It is far from uncommon for murderers to want to cover the face, particularly the eyes, of their victim. This is even more common where the perpetrator has a personal relationship with the victim.

I'm quite reluctant to post this here because I would hate for my post to affect anyone personally, but....It is a very eerie feeling to be in the presence of the body of a deceased person. Add to that the fact that your emotions are heightened by the fact that you have, in these very moments, caused that person to become deceased. You can't make a recently deceased person's eyes remain completely shut, and those eyes will give you the heebie jeebies, believe you me!! As many of you have mentioned, masking tape is a poor choice for a heavy duty sticking tape. So the quote about tape on the eyes and face I imagine to be tape placed for the purpose of closing her eyes, with other strips of tape placed in a cross-tape fashion in order to keep those in place. Hence covering further parts of her face.

Her body was reportedly found within a duvet COVER, not a duvet as some posters have sited. To manhandle a deceased person fully into a duvet cover, having to roll and manoeuvre them, as would be required, in this eerie environment, well..... the strongest of stomachs would not be able to perform that task without turning that person into a 'body' by blocking out their looking at you

 

[JosieJo]

Just a few late night thoughts....Something I've just noticed...quite trivial really but I'll mention it. I had assumed there was a possibility the duvet cover was removed from SE's bed but I see that it has been described by several sources as a 'single' duvet cover. SE would probably have had a double bed (and therefore a double duvet) so this suggests MS may have had to enter another bedroom or rummage in a bedding cupboard for it unless he went prepared (which would be VERY organised of him). On reflection if MS had been in SE's b/room, he would not have wanted to use a cover which contained his dna. I wonder if he wore gloves (again, was he this organised?).

The single duvet cover is interesting

 

[Yozzer]

The single duvet cover is interesting

I would imagine there would be at least one single bed in a 3 bedroomed house, so single bedding would be available but it does conjure an image of panic - unless he went prepared.

 

[LucyRocket]

yes that's what I meant by "contain a forensic area." But would she fit inside it SS?[/QUOTE]

Yes

 

[Cherwell]

Do we know if there have been any actual charges made against SS & 28yr old yet?

No charges so far. They would both have been named officially if they had been charged.

 

[cottonweaver]

I do think it's interesting that SE's close friend, (she was one of the people who went to her house that Friday night) stated so categorically that SE wan't seeing anyone. I got the impression that this was her subtle way of publicly stating that any advances by MS were not reciprocated by SE.

IDK why the colleague was categorical , other than the fact that she was actually single when she was killed & prior to that?

And other than it might be because the suspicion in the press/readers might fall on her ex-fiancee? ( which did happen in SM)

Anyway, I assumed that in reality, this subject was brought up by the journalist who asked Nicola Brennan those questions - which considering the reality of most murders (of women) isn't surprising.

Or that as overwhelming majority murders (of women) are by someone they know. And usually by a man. (Would think that's the reality no-one could avoid were they a member of WS.)