UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #3

[Dotta]

As a reference to where my above post states urfan alluding to a child being the cause of Sara's death

Thank you.

 

[Pinkestpanther]

What about the accusation of Sara being beaten and stamped on?
Accusation made by B to U after Sara's death?

Do you mean she accused Baby brother?
Or little sisters?

C'mon!
It is ALL in reports from today with links.
Black on white.

JMO

Not as far as I can see. Only Batools accusations against Sara's older brother....the falling down stairs whilst playing with him and the fact that when Sharif questioned the red marks on Sara, Batool stated that her brother had also. beaten/stamped on Sara.

Who else has accused Sara's brother, other than Batool?

 

[iamshadow21]

What would he need to "wash" off her exactly. Could be a damning detail if true. The pristine house doesn't fit the forensic state of her body either JMO

I believe bathing the body is part of post mortem rituals for Muslims.

MOO

 

[Pinkestpanther]

As a reference to where my above post states urfan alluding to a child being the cause of Sara's death

This is only alluding to the story Batool gave to Sharif. He has already said he believed her and was then protecting his son by fleeing to Pakistan.

Who else has accused Sara's brother, other than Batool?

 

[Smithpanes]

Sara Sharif’s father felt ‘world crushed’ as he held her lifeless body

Urfan Sharif is on trial at the Old Bailey accused of the 10-year-old’s murder.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Dotta]

Not as far as I can see. Only Batools accusations against Sara's older brother....the falling down stairs whilst playing with him and the fact that when Sharif questioned the red marks on Sara, Batool stated that her brother had also. beaten/stamped on Sara.

Who else has accused Sara's brother, other than Batool?

Sorry
It seems language barrier stands between both of us understanding each other.
Blame my English.

Do you suggest that this accusation of Sara's brother mean only this ONE "incident"?

I don't think so.
Why would he suddenly, out of the blue,
allegedly by B
attack his sister?
(Beat her, stamp on her, pushed her down the stairs)

IMO
Adults shamelessly blame the brother,
who is faaaar away and cannot defend himself.

JMO

 

[Skigh]

A soiled nappy and urine soaked leggings were found in the family's dustbin. I would have thought Sara would have needed to be washed and changed after she had died .

 

[Pinkestpanther]

Sorry
It seems language barrier stands between both of us understanding each other.
Blame my English.

Do you suggest that this accusation of Sara's brother mean only this ONE "incident"?

I don't think so.
Why would he suddenly, out of the blue allegedly by B attack his sister?

IMO
Adults shamelessly blame the brother, who is faaaar away and cannot defend themselves.

Yes I do think it was this one incident. Batool had to give a story to Sharif and this was it. She blamed Sara's brother. Then added the story about the beating/stamping..when Sharif noticed the red marks on Sara's neck. Siblings can fight...no one is suggesting it was murder.

But it's irrelevant. It never happened in my opinion. Sharif does not believe it now either. He blames Batool. But at the time, he accepted the explanation and was fearful for his son.

No-one has suggested that a child was responsible for the abuse Sara suffered.

 

[Dotta]

No-one has suggested that a child was responsible for the abuse Sara suffered.

B suggested.

And not for the first time.

 

[Pinkestpanther]

B suggested.

And not for the first time.

Well yes ...only her. To save herself. She did it. Jmo.

 

[Dotta]

Well yes ...only her. To save herself. She did it. Jmo.

At last we can agree.

I don't believe neither U nor B.
As I have written many times.

JMO

 

[Alyce]

The trial was adjourned until 2pm on Monday.

Sara Sharif’s father felt ‘world crushed’ as he held her lifeless body

Urfan Sharif is on trial at the Old Bailey accused of the 10-year-old’s murder.

www.shropshirestar.com

 

[Dotta]

The trial was adjourned until 2pm on Monday

I guess
Both Prosecution and B's Defence
need time to dissect U's testimony
and prepare for attack
in cross-examination.

Good!

JMO

 

[Smithpanes]

By then, Sharif told jurors he had every intention of taking the blame again but changed his mind after being told about the extent of Sara’s injuries.

 

[Dotta]

By then, Sharif told jurors he had every intention of taking the blame again but changed his mind after being told about the extent of Sara’s injuries.

Yeah...

As we say in Poland:

"And the groundhog sits there and wraps them in tinfoil"

A line from an old Milka chocolate commercial

(where a man accidentally stumbles upon a secret chocolate factory operated by mountain animals with a groundhog wrapping
chocolates in tinfoil.
When he later relates his experience to friends,
they think he is crazy)

 

[PKFS]

Well, "Batool made 30 calls to members of her family but they did not help because they were “scared”........So Batool's family knew of the murder and kept quiet!?!?!?!
They kept quiet and let the killers escape to Pakistan?!

JMO

 

[Tortoise]

Sara's father said Ms Batool told him the girl had fallen down the stairs while playing with another child, and that now she was “pretending” and “being dramatic".

At 9:59am he took a £70 fare from his customer at Heathrow T3. He went home, was there for the afternoon to sleep, and describes seeing Sara in the kitchen washing something at the sink.
Guildford Dragon NEWS


None of this timeline fits with him telling the 999 operator:

Operator: What led you to, what led to all this happening?
Sharif: I think she was naughty over the last, three, four weeks and I was giving her punishment...
https://www.itv.com/news/london/202...-gut-wrenching-screams-from-sara-sharifs-home

IMO

 

[PKFS]

If Batool blamed the boy for hurting Sara, why didnt Sharif ask the boy?!? Or even talk to the boy?!? Even to say" Look what you have done to your sister?!" Nothing?!
Where was the boy when Sharif was administering CPR?
Throughout the whole time of making calls, getting the child to pack his stuff, throughout the journey....not once did Sharif tell the boy off?!

I find everything they say is lies! All of them!
It annoys me to hell and beyond that they are ALL thinking of themselves and not of Sara and the fact that she DESERVES the truth to be known.

How can they all be under the same roof and pretend they dont know what is happening?
They all know the truth! There is only one truth! Everyone including Batool's family, Sharif's relatives in Pakistan - they ALL know! Even the 13yr old boy!

I think it is more traumatic for the boy to not give witness as the guilt will injure him more later in life. If his parent/s did it, he needs to do the right thing by Sara and take comfort in that - rather than feel he had to side with his parents. It is not a good place to be, but his soul has to take comfort in knowing he is doing the right thing. (IMOO)

The only one who didn't know what happened was Olga. My heart goes out to Olga because I can see from the photos of Sara and Olga that Sara was her true cheeky, happy, confident self when she was with her Mama. That is what Olga gave Sara.

JMO

 

[Pinkestpanther]

If Batool blamed the boy for hurting Sara, why didnt Sharif ask the boy?!? Or even talk to the boy?!? Even to say" Look what you have done to your sister?!" Nothing?!
Where was the boy when Sharif was administering CPR?
Throughout the whole time of making calls, getting the child to pack his stuff, throughout the journey....not once did Sharif tell the boy off?!

I find everything they say is lies! All of them!
It annoys me to hell and beyond that they are ALL thinking of themselves and not of Sara and the fact that she DESERVES the truth to be known.

How can they all be under the same roof and pretend they dont know what is happening?
They all know the truth! There is only one truth! Everyone including Batool's family, Sharif's relatives in Pakistan - they ALL know! Even the 13yr old boy!

I think it is more traumatic for the boy to not give witness as the guilt will injure him more later in life. If his parent/s did it, he needs to do the right thing by Sara and take comfort in that - rather than feel he had to side with his parents. It is not a good place to be, but his soul has to take comfort in knowing he is doing the right thing. (IMOO)

The only one who didn't know what happened was Olga. My heart goes out to Olga because I can see from the photos of Sara and Olga that Sara was her true cheeky, happy, confident self when she was with her Mama. That is what Olga gave Sara.

JMO

We don't know what Sharif did or did not say to Sara's brother. Or what he had to say. Because of his age, there may be reporting restrictions. Hopefully, and quite rightly, he is being protected. He is not on trial here.

 

[Skigh]

If Batool blamed the boy for hurting Sara, why didnt Sharif ask the boy?!? Or even talk to the boy?!? Even to say" Look what you have done to your sister?!" Nothing?!
Where was the boy when Sharif was administering CPR?
Throughout the whole time of making calls, getting the child to pack his stuff, throughout the journey....not once did Sharif tell the boy off?!

I find everything they say is lies! All of them!
It annoys me to hell and beyond that they are ALL thinking of themselves and not of Sara and the fact that she DESERVES the truth to be known.

How can they all be under the same roof and pretend they dont know what is happening?
They all know the truth! There is only one truth! Everyone including Batool's family, Sharif's relatives in Pakistan - they ALL know! Even the 13yr old boy!

I think it is more traumatic for the boy to not give witness as the guilt will injure him more later in life. If his parent/s did it, he needs to do the right thing by Sara and take comfort in that - rather than feel he had to side with his parents. It is not a good place to be, but his soul has to take comfort in knowing he is doing the right thing. (IMOO)

The only one who didn't know what happened was Olga. My heart goes out to Olga because I can see from the photos of Sara and Olga that Sara was her true cheeky, happy, confident self when she was with her Mama. That is what Olga gave Sara.

JMO

We do not know what Sara's early years were like , but I imagine they were not all smiles and hugs . She was put in foster care aged 2 for a reason.