UK UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #7

[ApparentlyInDenial]

I'm really wondering the same thing, especially as they have just extended his detention and still not charged him. It's extremely worrying.

A judge has to approve these extensions each time though, and a judge would only do that where it looks like the police are onto something.

 

[Parmalade]

I am hoping that this is LE doing things by the book and investigating the reason WC wasn’t suspended sooner following the 28 Feb complaint which may have prevented WC from being in London on 3 Mar. I’m hoping that the 28 Feb incident wasn’t immediately identified as WC and the wording of the statement/probe is standard procedure to see, having now with hindsight/more evidence realised it is likely/certainly WC responsible for the 28 Feb incident, IF more could have been done to prevent WC being in London on 3 March.

In other words: the two officers handling the complaint may not have done anything wrong but, given the likely perp of it is now highly suspected of going on to commit another crime, an investigation has been set up to verify that.

I hope. If they’ve knowingly left him out on duty, they’re done.

 

[Jimmy Pats]

You have got to suspect (esp given what he did to himself in the cells today) that WC threatened or carried out some kind of self harm at home (when ambulance was called). Date would seem to fit with the time he was caught exposing himself. JKO MOO

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

I'm really wondering the same thing, especially as they have just extended his detention and still not charged him. It's extremely worrying.

A judge has to approve these extensions each time though, and a judge would only do that where it looks like the police are onto something.

 

[arrogantcat]

I think a more likely Avenue would have been to get his car registration from wherever he was parked near the takeaway, and trace him from that.

No guarantees, of course, but if the Sun report is accurate and they literally didn’t investigate at all, then it stands to reason that *actually investigating* would have greatly increased the chances of him being apprehended.

He’ll have known how little of a F is given about these types of crimes, and how little work is done to solve them. That’s why he was able to be so brazen about it, and probably for quite some time. JMO

 

[Emerald1991]

There are a lot more fast food places in South London than just McDonald's! When I lived there I spent half of my life in various chicken shops and hardly ever set foot in a McDonald's or KFC so it could also be a location like that. Just my thoughts.

 

[Mr. Moon]

Perhaps rose-tinted glasses but I struggle to believe they knew WC was the person in question and did nothing about it. I very much hope so.

I think it's more likely that the matter wasn't taken seriously. These types of incidents are not uncommon, around 100 (reported) a year in both Lambeth and Wandsworth. They're lucky if 10% are proceeded against. If the perp is unidentifiable or unknown to the local police force there's not an awful lot to go on in a city not short on crime.

Should these types of crimes be taken more seriously? Yes. But that needs a concerted effort to properly fund the police and for the public to make their voices heard on these matters - genuine activism that is about building not demolishing. Cuts have seriously impacted the ability of the police to do their job effectively, and (at the risk of getting political) militant activism that paints them as the enemy is wholly unhelpful. Trust is a two-way street and it needs to be rebuilt on both sides. Destroying one side of the street helps no one.

 

[Mr. Moon]

Perhaps rose-tinted glasses but I struggle to believe they knew WC was the person in question and did nothing about it. I very much hope so.

I think it's more likely that the matter wasn't taken seriously. These types of incidents are not uncommon, around 100 (reported) a year in both Lambeth and Wandsworth. They're lucky if 10% are proceeded against. If the perp is unidentifiable or unknown to the local police force there's not an awful lot to go on in a city not short on crime.

Should these types of crimes be taken more seriously? Yes. But that needs a concerted effort to properly fund the police and for the public to make their voices heard on these matters - genuine activism that is about building not demolishing. Cuts have seriously impacted the ability of the police to do their job effectively, and (at the risk of getting political) militant activism that paints them as the enemy is wholly unhelpful. Trust is a two-way street and it needs to be rebuilt on both sides. Destroying one side of the street helps no one.

 

[Nikynoo]

Is this not the same as Maxine Carrr though? It's perverting the course of justice. Was she bailed? I find that hard to believe.

No, absolutely not the same as Maxine Carr. Maxine actually cleaned the murder scene.

 

[OrlandoJames]

My thinking he can’t have confessed because surely they would have charged him already with a confession?

If he’s still trying to claim he’s innocent, smashing his head against the wall in the cell would be an odd move.

 

[smucklecrumble]

McDonald’s doesn’t have in person takeaway at the moment. Delivery or drive through. I suppose he could have exposed himself to the drive through person though.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/13986597/mcdonalds-to-reopen-restaurants-for-walk-in-takeaways/

 

[waxwellwax]

McDonald’s doesn’t have in person takeaway at the moment. Delivery or drive through. I suppose he could have exposed himself to the drive through person though.

Brixton is open for in person takeaway

 

[PomPom123]

Possibility that he was angered by IE victim reporting and causing problems for him with work and wife and he was holding onto this anger until he found another woman to take it out on.

I have two questions:

Would WC definitely have known that the IE incident had been reported, and, if so, would he have been able to find out who reported it?

 

[ElizaKate]

My thinking he can’t have confessed because surely they would have charged him already with a confession?

Not necessarily no. They will want to question for as long as possible to gather as much information as they can. Especially if he's shown a pattern of behaviour - how many other crimes could they potentially unearth...

 

[Nikynoo]

It could be the case that WC is laying the groundwork for claims that he's not criminally responsible.

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No. Too late for that. In addition, if the head injury was self inflicted (and we dont know that for a fact), he would have been assessed by the Mental Health Team before release.

 

[Audiohoney]

A kebab restaurant is still a fast food restaurant FYI.

It’s extremely unlikely they would have recognised him. The Met is like 30 thousand people!

Maybe it’s a northern thing, but it would be unusual to refer to a kebab place as a takeaway restaurant IMO. A kebab shop, a kebab house .. but ‘takeaway restaurant’ to me implies something different to a small pizza / chip / kebab shop - which is why I thought of McDs. It could mean any restaurant offering takeaway food obviously.

 

[Blanche]

The Chillenden Murders. Lin and Megan Russell. Happened in Kent 20 odd years ago.

The heroin addict in prison has always protested his innocence.

Wayne Couzens hunting ground?

totally different MO, think it highly unlikely for that to have been WC plus I believe they have the right person for that crime a lot of murderers protest their innocence doesn't mean they are so.

 

[peplumpiglet]

This has all the hallmarks of the Met protecting their guy. Rinse and repeat behaviour.

MOO

I'm not sure what qualifies you to say this. I can't imagine any scenario where the Met wants to protect an officer guilty of flashing in this manner.

 

[Jimmy Pats]

Yay WS have put money I the meter

 

[Vevvie]

So once his photo was released to the public, was that when the fast food staff recognised him and told the police it was him?