UK UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #8

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[Lilbitcurious]

He was arrested very shortly after getting home from his shift on Tuesday. So he may not have had time to think re undercover officers in the Land Rover etc

There is probably an element paranoia convinced him he was regardless

Where I am we would be lucky if the CID/undercover?? were in a clapped out focus at best maybe a mazda!

 

[Beans]

If they were monitoring him for a few days and arrested him when he got home that night, it sounds as if they might have sent the Range Rover to watch the wife and the house in the hours leading up to it. He would have been followed home too, presumably. Maybe they thought he’d go somewhere of note, or maybe there’s a specific reason they wanted to arrest them both at home at the same time?

 

[minneolo]

One piece of this case that has been on my mind over the last week, is why it appears WC committed his first major offense now at age 48. Of course as more is known about him we may find that he has in fact offended many times in the past.

That said, my own theory is that WC perhaps escalated to indecent exposure and his attack on Sarah because of as a result of disruptions to his typical behavior due to Covid restrictions. Perhaps before quarantine he satisfied his impulses via less violent / illegal actions. For example, maybe he visited sex workers frequently, or found enough thrill in meeting women on online hook up apps, but finds this less accessible now due to the lockdown.

Many people have experienced much higher levels of stress or deteriorating mental health during the pandemic. Possibly this could have led to WC‘s escalation to the indecent exposure incident and his terrible attack on SE.

 

[NoneSpringsToMind]

I’m wondering if the assisting an offender arrest was to with her trying to delay police entry so he could escape out the back door or something when they came to arrest him.

 

[Whitehall 1212]

Just read the above link again regarding Police watchdog referrals outcomes and posting two quotes again as the second one seems very significant. What it seems to say is - that the indecent exposure allegation is no longer being looked into by them as to the Met conduct, and is referred back to local investigation. But also says they are still assessing the actions of the Police after they received a report that SE was missing.

So they are querying the timeline between her going missing and the time before any action was taken it sounds like. JMO

"The IOPC added: “Yesterday we determined that two conduct referrals relating to kidnap/murder and indecent exposure allegations against the arrested officer should remain under local investigation by the force.

“We are still assessing a mandatory referral in relation to the actions of police after they received a report that Sarah Everard was missing.”


Five referrals to watchdog as serving officer questioned over Sarah's murder

In my view not necessarily the timeline before action but the correct assessment of risk and appropriate police actions for the degree of risk:

1. The assessment of circumstances of her going missing

2. Whether the circumstances and any other information identified her as a 'high risk' missing person

3. The policing actions and their expeditiousness

From memory she was reported missing by her partner the following day?

 

[Stella123]

I think so and it was a lot of media coverage by family and friends eventually that seemed to instigate the case taking off IMO. Nothing much seemed to happen at all for the first week. Then it all happened at once.

 

[LdnPimlico]

Just catching up.

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Just heartbreaking to think this officer had been reported for an IE on the 28th, just 3 days before SE went missing.

I also wanted to say, as a London dweller young female professional - I have followed the threads on here since Monday this week -
- prior to the arrest of WC, there was a lot of commentary about 'what kind of area' Clapham/South London/Brixton/Tulse Hill is - with various implications about certain types of housing being 'less safe' and references to 'communities'. I didn't say anything at the time, but since the news of the arrest of a white male from Kent - surely we should stop this commentary on 'what kind of area' it is? I appreciate there are higher rates of certain types of crime in London - but actually, as suggested by the shock and outpouring of grief and horror of this case - the fact is this sort of thing doesn't actually happen all that often.

That said, as many of the other young females on this forum and elsewhere have mentioned - the fear of this 'sort of thing' happening, wherever I am, at any time, is something I have grown up to be hyper aware and conditioned to. It is sadly, second nature.

Re: the head injury visit to the hospital - IMO (and my experience, but appreciate i am not a VI) - very common for people in custody to be brought to the hospital with head injuries - usually from banging head against the inside of police van and passing out, or wall or similar. More common in those who we suspect may have been taking illegal substances, or with severe mental issues, mind.

I agree that the size of the investigation in the forested area seems quite large - but have no expertise on this! Also wonder whether covid working restrictions may mean they need more cabins etc for social distancing so it looks like more than it would have done pre COVID.

@Whitehall 1212 - yes her boyfriend reported her missing the following evening - March 4th - when they were supposed to meet. I have thought about this first 24hrs a lot, in my own relationship I generally always text to say I've reached home as a habit. It's clear this wasn't their norm but I wish it was because perhaps he would have been suspicious sooner. She might have been expected at work the following day, but as likely WFH at present, it might not have been immediately obvious if she didn't happen to have any meetings planned that day for example. - all speculation

 

[RexLuther]

"The IOPC added: “Yesterday we determined that two conduct referrals relating to kidnap/murder and indecent exposure allegations against the arrested officer should remain under local investigation by the force.

“We are still assessing a mandatory referral in relation to the actions of police after they received a report that Sarah Everard was missing.”

Interesting this has changed slightly compared to earlier when this information was released.

 

[Stella123]

Correction - there is a timeline here - but up to the 5th day after she disappeared it was being treated as a "missing persons investigation". Although above that it says "the complex nature of the probe". As someone posted very early on in these threads, it was because she had active family and friends it seemed to get such high profile when so many cases like this get very little publicity. JMO

Sarah Everard disappearance: What we know so far

If the info that WC was being observed for about 3 days before his arrest is correct, then that would have been Sat/Sun/Mon. Or Sun/Mon/Tues. So presumably he wouldn't have been working over the week-end - just the one day on Monday. JMO

She went missing on the 3rd March. WC was arrested on 9th March. 7th and 8th March seemed to see the most acitivity with people sending in info after the doorcam photo released and requests.

So about 3 or 4 days with not much happening it seems.

 

[kittythehare]

Just read the above link again regarding Police watchdog referrals outcomes and posting two quotes again as the second one seems very significant. What it seems to say is - that the indecent exposure allegation is no longer being looked into by them as to the Met conduct, and is referred back to local investigation. But also says they are still assessing the actions of the Police after they received a report that SE was missing.

So they are querying the timeline between her going missing and the time before any action was taken it sounds like. JMO

"The IOPC added: “Yesterday we determined that two conduct referrals relating to kidnap/murder and indecent exposure allegations against the arrested officer should remain under local investigation by the force.

“We are still assessing a mandatory referral in relation to the actions of police after they received a report that Sarah Everard was missing.”


Five referrals to watchdog as serving officer questioned over Sarah's murder

It is their job to police deviations from standard operating procedures,
That's why the two guys who didn't apparently act correctly upon receipt of the complaint about the flashing has to be investigated by them.

 

[Stella123]

Interesting this has changed slightly compared to earlier when this information was released.

Yes I thought so too.

 

[Stella123]

It is their job to police deviations from standard operating procedures,
That's why the two guys who didn't apparently act correctly upon receipt of the complaint about the flashing has to be investigated by them.

Except according to that report they are not investigating them now.

 

[Whitehall 1212]

I think so and it was a lot of media coverage by family and friends eventually that seemed to instigate the case taking off IMO. Nothing much seemed to happen at all for the first week. Then it all happened at once.

The first apparent directed activity, I recall, was on Tuesday 9th, in the late afternoon, when Poynders Road was cordoned off and the area around Poynders Court was searched. Before this it had been Clapham Common, including the areas of open water, but a general search, not forensic.

My thoughts are that is was on this afternoon that credible evidence was recovered, possibly CCTV, that identified SE and some activity near a vehicle which was later identified and tracked to WC's home address.

I suspect they may have had no idea he was a police officer until they arrested him.

JMO

 

[LdnPimlico]

Correction - there is a timeline here - but up to the 5th day after she disappeared it was being treated as a "missing persons investigation". Although above that it says "the complex nature of the probe". As someone posted very early on in these threads, it was because she had active family and friends it seemed to get such high profile when so many cases like this get very little publicity. JMO

Sarah Everard disappearance: What we know so far

If the info that WC was being observed for about 3 days before his arrest is correct, then that would have been Sat/Sun/Mon. Or Sun/Mon/Tues. So presumably he wouldn't have been working over the week-end - just the one day on Monday. JMO

She went missing on the 3rd March. WC was arrested on 9th March. 7th and 8th March seemed to see the most acitivity with people sending in info after the doorcam photo released and requests.

So about 3 or 4 days with not much happening it seems.

It was being reported in the news and on BBC from Friday 5th onwards. Perhaps being in the area I am and similar demographics - I saw it on social media a lot around then too - many friends of friends sharing it.

I believe it was on Sunday 7th March they said the case had been transferred to the 'Specialist Crimes' something - not sure if that suggests he was being observed from Sunday?

 

[LucyRocket]

The first apparent directed activity, I recall, was on Tuesday 9th, in the late afternoon, when Poynders Road was cordoned off and the area around Poynders Court was searched.

My thoughts are that is was that afternoon that credible evidence was recovered, possibly CCTV, that identified SE and some activity near a vehicle which was later identified and tracked to WC's home address.

I suspect they would have had no idea he was a police officer until they arrested him.

It was at this time news of her disappearance reached me. I was surprised that 6 days had passed before I heard of her. Then it all took off with lightening speed. Not just lightening speed, but all over the place

 

[Stella123]

It seems strange looking back at the timeline now - everything changed when the "human remains" were announced. I still think the Police did an amazing job of tracking this to Deal from Clapham area - that all seemed to happen quickly (in the news) although as we now know they had been observing WC for a few days.

 

[Joolz1975]

The first apparent directed activity, I recall, was on Tuesday 9th, in the late afternoon, when Poynders Road was cordoned off and the area around Poynders Court was searched.

My thoughts are that is was that afternoon that credible evidence was recovered, possibly CCTV, that identified SE and some activity near a vehicle which was later identified and tracked to WC's home address.

I suspect they would have had no idea he was a police officer until they arrested him.

Sure it has been mentioned that he had been under surveillance in the hours/days prior to his arrest.

 

[LucyRocket]

The first apparent directed activity, I recall, was on Tuesday 9th, in the late afternoon, when Poynders Road was cordoned off and the area around Poynders Court was searched.

My thoughts are that is was that afternoon that credible evidence was recovered, possibly CCTV, that identified SE and some activity near a vehicle which was later identified and tracked to WC's home address.

I suspect they would have had no idea he was a police officer until they arrested him.

That's what I thought, but now we're hearing he was under surveillance?

 

[minneolo]

The first apparent directed activity, I recall, was on Tuesday 9th, in the late afternoon, when Poynders Road was cordoned off and the area around Poynders Court was searched.

My thoughts are that is was that afternoon that credible evidence was recovered, possibly CCTV, that identified SE and some activity near a vehicle which was later identified and tracked to WC's home address.

I suspect they would have had no idea he was a police officer until they arrested him.

No idea he was police? Wouldn’t they have done at least a basic background check up on him before arresting him at his home? Also I thought there was significant main stream media reporting that his police locker had been searched prior to his arrest.