Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #16 *ARREST*

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10ofRods said:
From my perspective, the DA went down the list of major forensic evidence at this conference. He went in order, and mentioned the car. The car had a strong smell of gas in the trunk and a gas can in the trunk, IIRC.

I think he would have mentioned if there was blood spatter in the car. It's very easy to see (immediately) with luminol. It's the first thing any forensic crew would do, IMO. Since the DA described her likely manner of death (blunt force trauma to the left side of her head, with a sizable hole and missing scalp), I seriously doubt it was in the car.

I also think he took some precautions inside the house or garage (probably garage) so that blood wasn't pooled in any particular place. She may have died quickly (in which case the scalp wound would not have continued to bleed). Coroner thinks she died of internal (brain) bleeding.

I think AA is a sexual sadist and psychopath. I think it's likely she still thought she was meeting up with him for whatever reason she met up with him, up until she got into the house. I think there's a reason he tried to get rid of the mattress (which now has chain of custody issue, obviously, but will still be used as evidence if it contains any).

MOO
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Was there any blood or other tissue found in the house?
 
katydid23 said:
I didn't hear when or where he bought it yet. I heard Ted Williams, crime reporter on Fox News, say that he had bought the gas in the can 'earlier'---but I do want to know when he did so.
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The DA mentioned he bought at gas can at a nearby grocery store at 9:00 AM on June 17th. I have seen messages about another gas can purchase on June 25th, the supposed day he was pinged in Logan Canyon and also the day he Venmoed an attorney. He may have burned the first gas can? or perhaps there are two?

LE has said his trunk had a strong odor of gasoline. I wonder if it was to mask the smell of a decomposing body. He may have poured gasoline in his own truck as a smoke screen.
 
mountainflower said:
The DA mentioned he bought at gas can at a nearby grocery store at 9:00 AM on June 17th. I have seen messages about another gas can purchase on June 25th, the supposed day he was pinged in Logan Canyon and also the day he Venmoed an attorney. He may have burned the first gas can? or perhaps there are two?

LE has said his trunk had a strong odor of gasoline. I wonder if it was to mask the smell of a decomposing body. He may have poured gasoline in his own truck as a smoke screen.
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Or maybe this brainiac didn't get the top on securely and it spilled... MOO
 
PommyMommy said:
About 5 miles. Google says 9 - 10 minutes but I imagine there wasn't much traffic at that hour. Google Maps
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Google Maps indicates exactly an eight minute drive, that is five miles in length, from Hatch Park to his home. Not a lot of wiggle room in the timeline to subdue, restrain, etc. I think he just simply went home. Still doesn't answer the question of why her phone was off and his wasn't.
 
This was unfolding as I was leaving for an appointment. I've now watched the presser. What a man of heart of this DA is. And what a complete IDIOT this perp is, and I'm so glad for Mackenzie's sake and that of her family and friends that he is this dumb.

I think what happened in the car depends on whether or not she thought they were going to his house. If she didn't, she was taken control of straight away.

I was in a serious car crash at 17, not belted, and the left side of my head and face hit the edge of a friend's Mustang dashboard that was hard and had an edge, I was knocked out, had a skull fracture, hematoma, and all the facial bones in the left side of my face had to be reconstructed. I also had a jaw injury. There was not a drop of blood or open wound of any kind, and other than visible swelling, you would not have known much of anything happened if you saw me. It was all internal. He would have had to use something like a hammer or worse to do what he did to poor defenseless Mackenzie.

I do not believe any crime of passion scenario, or that she resisted so, darn it, he just had to BIND her with two different methods (I also don't buy that this was to make her easier to transport), or that he lost his temper, or panicked, or WHATEVER. In my book, he's a cold, calculating, sadistic hunter of women, who intended from the get go, every single act of deception and cruelty he inflicted on his victim. I wish him her suffering and fear magnified, but because the rest of us and our system are more compassionate than his kind, he'll sit back with his feet propped up on society's dime, getting 3 squares and chatting it up with his lawyer. The good news is, no lawyer can't save him.

I'm just angry, and as a mother, I want Mommy Justice for Mackenzie. It's what these predators deserve. Sorry for the rant, my heart breaks for her, her grieving family, and sweetheart friends of Mackenzie's like@yellowmoose. I wish you all comfort in knowing that this DA and this police force is not going to let this go.
 
mountainflower said:
Google Maps indicates, exactly an eight minute drive that is five miles in length. Not a lot of wiggle room in the timeline to subdue, restrain, etc. I think he just simply went home. Still doesn't answer the question of why her phone was off and his wasn't.
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8 minutes for one route, yes. We don't know which one he took but either way, he made it in about 7 minutes. It wouldn't take more than a minute to get someone who is ML's size in the trunk. If necessary, we'll have @MassGuy conduct an experiment. :)
 
PommyMommy said:
Although this article doesn't mentioned the items found in the burn pit, I think it's the most thorough one I've seen today.

Suspect assaulted Utah student Mackenzie Lueck, then burned her body, charges say
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After she was killed, prosecutors say Ajayi poured gasoline on her body and burned it. Her charred remains were found by police in a shallow grave under a grove of trees in Logan Canyon on July 3.

"Mackenzie's arms were bound behind her back by a zip tie and rope. A 5-centimeter hole was located on the left side of her skull with part of her left scalp missing," according to charging documents filed in 3rd District Court.

An autopsy conducted by the Utah State Medical Examiner's Office determined Lueck died from blunt force trauma to the left side of her skull, "resulting in significant intracranial hemorrhaging which would have been fatal," the charges state.

Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill declined to say Wednesday if or what kind of weapon Ajayi might have used to cause a 5-centimeter hole.

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While some questions about what happened to Lueck were answered Wednesday, there are still many that remained unanswered, such as how Lueck and Ajayi first met, his motive, and whether Ajayi ultimately gave police information that led them to her body in Logan Canyon, about 85 miles north of Salt Lake City.

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As for the question of whether the killing was premeditated, Gill reminded journalists that a charge of aggravated murder can be filed in Utah whether there is intent, or whether the defendant acted in such a way that the intent was to kill the victim, but it is not necessarily to prove it was a premeditated action.

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Lueck's cellphone was powered off at 2:59 a.m. and never came back on, the charges state. Forensic evidence collected by police placed Ajayi's cellphone back at his Salt Lake residence, 547 N. 1000 West, at 3:07 a.m., according to charging documents. That's about the time it would take to drive directly to his house in the Fairpark neighborhood from the south Davis County park.

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On June 26, a large number of police officers served a search warrant on Ajayi’s home, collecting multiple bags of evidence. They were also seen digging holes in his backyard near the area where neighbors had previously seen him pouring gasoline on items and burning them.

Police found a human bone, charred muscular tissue, part of a scalp with hair, a cellphone and other charred personal items in the excavation area in Ajayi's yard, according to charging documents. More charred items were found in an alley next to Ajayi's home.

While serving the warrant, a neighbor reported noticing a "horrible smell" that was coming from the fire Ajayi set in his backyard on June 17 and 18, the charges state. Police say further investigation revealed that Ajayi had purchased a gas can at a nearby store at 9 a.m. on June 17, just six hours after picking up Lueck. That gas can was found in the trunk of Ajayi's car, according to police.

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Investigators put DNA evidence they had collected on the fast track to be tested, and on the morning of June 28, a SWAT team surrounded an apartment complex at 1028 S. West Temple and took Ajayi into custody at gunpoint.

As police continued to analyze Ajayi's cellphone data, they learned he was in Logan Canyon on June 25 between 2:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m., charging documents state. Investigators found Lueck's remains on July 3.

An initial appearance in court is scheduled for Monday, and a scheduling conference for the high-profile case has already been scheduled for July 29. Ajayi is being held without bail.

With a charge of aggravated murder, Ajayi could potentially face a possible death penalty if convicted. Gill said it was too early to say whether his office would seek the death penalty, and by law that decision doesn't have to be made until after a preliminary hearing and an arraignment.

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So for my more familiar with LE and court processes friends, can you explain the initial appearance and the scheduling conference? Is the initial appearance the same thing as the arraignment or are they different? And are they typically open to the public? Also any clarification on what the scheduling conference does/is? TIA. This stuff is all out of my wheelhouse.
 
STOP NOW WITH ANY ARGUMENTS THAT EVEN HINT AT IMMIGRATION.

THIS THREAD WILL FLAME OUT IN 2.5 SECONDS IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

THIS MAN MURDERED MACKENZIE. THAT IS THE POINT OF THE DISCUSSION. NOT WHETHER HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE OR NOT.

SORRY AGAIN TO YELL BUT I AM GETTING SO FRUSTRATED YOU CAN'T IMAGINE.

TRICIA
 
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