VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #1

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Were any of the handlers packing any weapons - guns in particular that the witnesses noticed? Did the handlers have any tattoos that the witnesses noticed? Any common theme among the handlers that the witnesses noticed?

I realize that there may not be any answers to these questions but they just popped into my head and wanted to put them out here.
 
I have worked part-time security for cruise lines. A lot of crime goes on unreported such as employees going into passenger's rooms, etc. It is getting better now with more IT and video monitoring but personally I would still travel with a partner AT ALL TIMES. For whatever reason people think it is safe, it is not. We do photograph each passenger, etc. and security is becoming somewhat better, but I would still take precautions. There are no criminal background checks and I am sure lots of rapists and sex offenders take cruises. While we photograph people, we do not do background checks so I don't know why the general public thinks it is so safe.
 
She was targeted for one reason: She was young and attractive and they COULD take her. Nothing more in my opinion.
 
This is my question: Apparently these people never let Amy out of their sight yet are willing to escort her around with not one but anywhere from two to four "handlers", at any time of the day?

The thing is, Amy's still alive, at least this is what I assume, hope and pray... If this is indeed the case, there's a reason that she is. I believe that if she were just a sex slave of some sort, she probably would have been gone before now.

So perhaps these people chose and trained Amy for some specialized type of role or specific function. The question is, why was she chosen? Was it strictly opportunistic or was there more involved?
A few things come to mind as reasons why Amy was targeted:
1) her intelligence
2) she was single but came from a good family and had the capacity to nurture and care for others
3) because she was / is a very attractive young woman. They have to have their eye candy, right? :tsktsk: And maybe more than that ... :(
4) her personality : IJMO that someone from that organization could have been on that ship so was most likely observing Amy. Nothing to go on, that's just my gut feeling. And they liked what they saw. MOO







I personally agree with you. I do believe that Amy was chosen by someone on that ship and she was chosen for a specific purpose. I believe her captors were looking for a woman with certain characteristics and Amy fit the need. They were obviously very organized by the way in which they were able to disable her and get her off of the ship, without a trace. A prostitute would not be seen so many times, guarded by two or more handlers. She's not a prostitute. What is Amy's purpose and where are they keeping her? Is Amy the only woman this group has?
 
What is a mystery to me is that most of these sightings of Amy have been in broad daylight, out in public areas. Why?

She is always seen with several handlers, from two to four.

So why is she being escorted around in broad daylight for all to see?

Why invest the expense and resources of two to four handlers to hover around her at all times?

Idk, but makes me think that Amy may be quite important, perhaps considered valuable in some way to this organization; or maybe it's not so much the organization, but a specific person involved with the organization. jmo







She could be out in both daylight and at night, but she just hasn't been recognized. I do believe that there are many Americans who have seen Amy in the Caribbean, but they don't recognize her. It has been 14 years since she disappeared and her face did not get the coverage that Natalee's did. Amy disappeared before the Internet forums took hold.
 
I agree, any sightings of Amy would seem to be a way that she could be found. You would think they would try to minimize this. Why go out in the middle of the day in a shopping center?




Her captors seem to feel very confident moving her around the Caribbean and San Francisco. It's almost like they're rubbing our noses in it. Is it because they have done this many times and nobody pays any attention to them?
 
Was the sketch done from the first two pictures of Amy or from a witness' description?





The sketch was done from the Barbados witnesses.

The photographs came from the escort resort photographs.
 
Were any of the handlers packing any weapons - guns in particular that the witnesses noticed? Did the handlers have any tattoos that the witnesses noticed? Any common theme among the handlers that the witnesses noticed?

I realize that there may not be any answers to these questions but they just popped into my head and wanted to put them out here.



None of the witnesses have ever seen any weapons and they haven't described any tattoos. I have wondered about the weapons and I would think that they do carry guns. Amy seems to be extremely valuable for some reason. The question with guns, though, is how would they be getting them through Customs and Immigration?
 
Amy was seen with the two handlers (the sketches) in San Francisco, on April 18, 2003. They were at Pier 39, Fisherman's Wharf. Fisherman's Wharf is a very crowded tourist area. Amy and her captors were watching one of the street musicians when Amy was recognized by someone in the crowd. When the handlers realized that Amy had been recognized, they literally grabbed her and ran. By the time the police arrived, they were gone.

This sighting has probably been one of the most important sightings. The FBI brought their best sketch artist from Quantico. The witnesses were able to give a lot of valuable information.

Why was Amy with these handlers in a crowded public location, in the middle of the day? It sounds just like the sighting in Barbados.


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Stockholm Syndrome Causes

The exact reason behind this psychological condition is very complicated. Over the years, eminent psychiatrists and criminologists have pinned down several factors. These are believed to be the causes of Stockholm Syndrome. This particular condition is supposed to appear when

Hostages feel their kidnapper is doing them a favour by not taking their life. This immediately makes them see their captor in a more positive light.

The kidnapped people are treated in a sympathetic manner by their captors. When captors provide their victims with a good living environment, the hostages begin to see them more favourably. Normally, kidnapers are expected to treat their victims very harshly. Cruel behaviour generates hatred. A kinder treatment does just the opposite.

The captive ones are isolated from the outside world. This makes them see the viewpoint of their kidnappers. They begin to understand the circumstances that may have forced the captor to commit the crime. As a result, they try to help their kidnapper and become sympathetic to them and their causes.

The kidnapped people begin to develop a physical or emotional attachment with their abductors. Living together for many days can bring two different persons together. They can start sharing their common interests.

The abducted people develop a habit of pleasing their kidnappers. At first, this is a necessity. The kidnapped ones are forced to side with their abductors to escape harsh treatment or even murder. But when it becomes a habit, it may stay on even in the absence of the force that caused it.

The abducted ones develop a sort of dependence on their abductors. This especially happens when the abductors have no close family member to go back to. In case the abductor has murdered his/her relatives, the victim feels helpless and needs the abductor for food and shelter. This becomes a necessity even when there is no threat from the part of the abductor.


Symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome

Like any other psychological condition, Stockholm Syndrome has its symptoms. Some of the well-known symptoms of Stockholm Syndrome are:

Showing admiration for the abductors
Resisting rescue attempts
Defending kidnappers
Trying to please abductors
Refusal to testify against captors
Refusal to run away from abductors



http://www.primehealthchannel.com/stockholm-syndrome-causes-symptoms-cases-and-treatment.html
 
Were any of the handlers packing any weapons - guns in particular that the witnesses noticed? Did the handlers have any tattoos that the witnesses noticed? Any common theme among the handlers that the witnesses noticed?

I realize that there may not be any answers to these questions but they just popped into my head and wanted to put them out here.

If they had weapons, then I'm sure they would be concealed and witnesses would never know of them. Fastest way to get the cops called on you...open carry.

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This is another photograph of Pier 39, Fisherman's Wharf. It's a very busy tourist location, just like Broad Street in Barbados.


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If they had weapons, then I'm sure they would be concealed and witnesses would never know of them. Fastest way to get the cops called on you...open carry.

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If they are carrying weapons, I doubt if they are going through the larger airports, cruise terminals, and harbors. This is a post 911 world.
 
Pier 39 Fisherman's Wharf, San Francisco is a very, very busy spot. I was there in 2003 but it was in June and the area was teeming with peoples. I was in the San Fran/Oakland area for a memorial service for a dear friend and colleague Dr. Pat Radin so I know it was June 2003.

In 2003 there was a fair amount of personal video being taken. In particular I remember Pier 39 as the area where the Bushman does his act and he is in a central location on the Pier as near as I can remember. Some of those videos have made their way to YouTube and I am just wondering if anybody has reviewed any of those videos to see if they can spot Amy in any of the crowds of people that were on the Pier on that day.

I will review YouTube videos later on today and will start with videos of the Bushman as I recall he is in a central spot on the Pier.

Just a thought and something that we can do on the internet to try and help bring Amy home - it is a total shot in the dark but sometimes that is what it takes to get a good break in a case. If there is video it may provide some more clues as to her captors meaning that I am NOT disputing that Amy was on the Pier but rather to look for more clues.

Kudos to whomever spotted Amy on the Pier on that day to be able to pick her out of a crowd like that.
 
More Pier 39, Fisherman's Wharf. Were they meeting someone?



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Why was Amy with these handlers in a crowded public location, in the middle of the day? It sounds just like the sighting in Barbados.

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The more theories I read in this forum, the more I wonder if you're on to something with the child-abduction angle. Amy's All-American looks could put children at ease. They could be targeting busy tourist locations with a lot of distractions that could take a parent's attention away from their child(ren) for just the minute needed for someone to take their kid. In this case, it makes perfect sense why they'd be out in broad daylight in very public places -- and having been to Fisherman's Wharf, there's a lot of activity going on at the same time.

Not sure if this has been covered, but were there surveillance cameras nearby that picked up images of these people for identification?
 
Pier 39 Fisherman's Wharf, San Francisco is a very, very busy spot. I was there in 2003 but it was in June and the area was teeming with peoples. I was in the San Fran/Oakland area for a memorial service for a dear friend and colleague Dr. Pat Radin so I know it was June 2003.

In 2003 there was a fair amount of personal video being taken. In particular I remember Pier 39 as the area where the Bushman does his act and he is in a central location on the Pier as near as I can remember. Some of those videos have made their way to YouTube and I am just wondering if anybody has reviewed any of those videos to see if they can spot Amy in any of the crowds of people that were on the Pier on that day.

I will review YouTube videos later on today and will start with videos of the Bushman as I recall he is in a central spot on the Pier.

Just a thought and something that we can do on the internet to try and help bring Amy home - it is a total shot in the dark but sometimes that is what it takes to get a good break in a case. If there is video it may provide some more clues as to her captors meaning that I am NOT disputing that Amy was on the Pier but rather to look for more clues.

Kudos to whomever spotted Amy on the Pier on that day to be able to pick her out of a crowd like that.







Thank you so much. The videos are a great idea. The date that she was seen was April 18, 2003, if that is a help. I do know that they were watching a musician.
 
The more theories I read in this forum, the more I wonder if you're on to something with the child-abduction angle. Amy's All-American looks could put children at ease. They could be targeting busy tourist locations with a lot of distractions that could take a parent's attention away from their child(ren) for just the minute needed for someone to take their kid. In this case, it makes perfect sense why they'd be out in broad daylight in very public places -- and having been to Fisherman's Wharf, there's a lot of activity going on at the same time.

Not sure if this has been covered, but were there surveillance cameras nearby that picked up images of these people for identification?



I think anything is possible with this group. I personally think she serves several purposes, and prostitution isn't one of them. I don't believe that anything was picked up with surveillance cameras. The FBI might have that information, though, and they don't share.
 
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