VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #2 - ***READ FIRST POST***

[FindAmy]

My comments in red.



Didn't Joran VDS have ties to Thailand and some "dancers"?



I've been thinking about this (BBM): I think you are exactly right! When did the Bradley's leave for this cruise? What day (day 1, day 2, etc) was this invitation to C&C? My biggest :waitasec: moment is: WHY AMY? Out of everyone on that ship, why did they single her out? IMHO, this wasn't some spur of the moment decision to take her, obviously.

* The man that Iva said was watching them. Is there a description of him? (Maybe I missed it. If so, I apologize.)

* It was the Portuguese waiter (Cabrito) that asked her to go to C&C. It was also him that told Brad (IIRC) that he was sorry she was missing, before any ship personnel knew she was missing.

* Then the ship photos - all pictures of Amy were missing. And, Iva has a receipt for reprints, but never received them. Why not?

* AD's attempt to make everyone think he was asleep in his room since 0100. He just didn't realize he had been seen with her. So, it's obvious he was lying and staged his "sleeping in his room".

* The Captains lack of concern (IMHO) for Amy being missing. I would have thought they would have locked things down until a thorough search of the ship was performed. And, by thorough, I mean rooms, storage rooms, containers, etc.

And, the Security (I think) guy that told the staff video engineer (Steve) to remove any evidence of Amy from any videos. That was stated in the story by the television director and video editor (Chris Fenwick).
http://chrisfenwick.com/home/2010/3/1/amy-bradley-is-missing.html

Wednesday March 24, 1998 Morning Rumors about a girl (Amy) missing from the ship

Thursday March 25th, 1998 Chris went to Steve's room: Steve casually informed Chris that he had been instructed by ship security to make sure that there were no images of the missing girl in his “Cruise Video”, the type of videotape that you would buy at the end of your cruise showing all the great things that you had done all week on board. :waitasec: If the ship had nothing to hide, then why did they want these images deleted?

Friday Afternoon "Mid afternoon on Friday, while I was in my room working, I recieved a phone call. The man on the phone told me his name was Lou Costello..........He asked me if, “I was the guy with the video tape of the missing girl” I told him that yes, I was. At that point he told me that he was going to have to get that tape from me." Who is Lou Costello and why would he need the master tape? ETA: So, Lou was the Safety Officer for Royal Caribbean at that time. He was promoted, apparently, to Fleet Safety Manager at Royal Caribbean International in May 2006. And, he is still employed by RCI. http://www.linkedin.com/in/loucostello


...........sorry for my rambling. I think the answer is right in front of our face, but the question is...what are we looking at? Does that make sense? Clear as mud to me.

So much in one post.


The waiter asked Amy to go to Carlos and Charlies the night before she disappeared.

This was not a spur of the moment decision to kidnap Amy, in my opinion. It was well planned and very organized. I have wondered if they were looking and planning for a victim, for a period of time. Amy was taken because she met the criteria for their needs.

Iva does not know who was watching Amy. He was a dark haired middle aged man.

The Portuguese waiter was overly attentive to Amy. He invited her to Carlos and Charlies, and he expressed regret to Brad.

Amy's photos disappeared. The photographer gave Iva a receipt and told her that he would make new pictures from the negatives. Iva still has the receipt. The photographer is not in question.

Alister Douglas has claimed that he did not have contact with Amy in the morning. He claims that he last saw Amy at 1:00 AM in the disco area. He has claimed that he did not have contact with Amy in Porto Marie. He was given an opportunity to appear on the Vanished program, but he declined. He later contacted the producers and complained that he had been unfairly represented.

The Captain's response to Amy's disappearance was deplorable. His concern was not to upset the other passengers. He refused to make any announcements and he refused to monitor people disembarking in Curacao. He assured the Bradleys that a complete search of the ship had been done, but this was not correct.

I can't speak for Royal Caribbean or their reasons why they wanted Amy's photos removed from everything regarding the cruise. Chris Fenwick did not work for Royal Caribbean. He was making the video for a private group on the cruise.

You are correct that the hotel witness was not a Naval Officer. I have continually identified him as a sailor or a Chief Petty Officer from the US Chandler. I have no idea why people insist on promoting him to the rank of an officer.

 

[FindAmy]

FindAmy, you misunderstand what I'm getting at. There could be other girls that were on the same site Amy was on, at the time she was in it, still in the system via cache. Some women get out of this, whether escape, rescue or allowability. They become part of an outreach sometimes to spread awareness. What I'm saying is that maybe a girl (or more than 1) could be identified and spoken with to give insight into whomever has Amy and her whereabouts. I bit for a second think Amy was on AFF, didn't even think along that line - unless whomever has/had her put her info on there themselves. Since AFF has been HUGE in the world for many many years, I can't see how Any would have ever been on there bc if she had her profile would have been identified years ago.

I don't think that Amy would have known the escorts at the Affordable Adult Vacations resort because I doubt that she was ever there.

 

[FindAmy]

What is the ship's identification number, their license number if you will? (not RC's licensure, but the ship's itself...kind of like a car/automobile vin)

I have no idea.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Iva does not know who was watching Amy. He was a dark haired middle aged man.

Snipped by me

I agree with your whole post, except I think the reason people say "officer" instead of "sailor" is bc they may not know the difference. Some people post from out of the states & don't know the difference in rankings. Also, most people that don't really know about the service here could confuse that title as well. I've heard Petty Officer so many times & thought that was a rank bc if the word "officer". I was just ignorant to the levels in certain branches of the service.

Re the dark haired middle aged man, is there a picture or sketch of him?

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I have no idea.

Is there a way to find out?

It's not on the court docs from what I saw. Did the Bradleys ever question this?

Maybe I missed it?

 

[FindAmy]

Re your post above in response to FindAmy:

I agree... Also, wasn't Cabrito ruled out as being involved? If so, how could he honestly be ruled out knowing how much goes on at C&C's? I mean, seriously?

About Amy getting singled out: People are singled out for a plethora of reasons. Most of the time it isn't bc they look like million dollar models (not to be taken out of context please). I've personally studied & studied this, and I think the way they scout the people they're going kidnap is by watching them, studying them (their mannerisms etc). I suspect the people involved in Amy's kidnapping watched her (and maybe other people too) to see how she looked at other people, maybe how she looked at other couples in specific. Everyone likes attention sometimes, so maybe since Amy was on the cruise with her family & not a significant other they could pick somebody to "pay attention to her and show her a good time", therefore making her center of attention and special (not that she wasn't already, it's only an analogy). Once that's accomplished, trust is somewhat won and her guard would be down, which is when they could go in for the kidnapping. She was lured IMO, then they took over. Once a strong confident person realizes they were played and/or lured, they've also realized they aren't impenetrable and therefore feel exposed. They have trust issues at that point. Once emotion plays a factor, kidnappers win.

That would maybe be the scenario if a buyer said he/she wanted somebody from that ship on a whim, without forethought.

If Amy was the target even before she left for the cruise, then it must have been by other diabolical means. Ie: maybe another company is involved...which I don't think bc Amy was in all seriousness your average American young lady...sweet, right out of college, loving family with decent morals, good friends, yada yada. Plus, her father's company was already investigated with regards to this case & cleared.

The FBI has not told the Bradleys the results of their interactions with Eduardo Cabrita.

There has never been any indication that Amy was a target before she left for the cruise.

 

[FindAmy]

Snipped by me

I agree with your whole post, except I think the reason people say "officer" instead of "sailor" is bc they may not know the difference. Some people post from out of the states & don't know the difference in rankings. Also, most people that don't really know about the service here could confuse that title as well. I've heard Petty Officer so many times & thought that was a rank bc if the word "officer". I was just ignorant to the levels in certain branches of the service.

Re the dark haired middle aged man, is there a picture or sketch of him?

There is no sketch. All that is known is that he was middle aged and had dark hair.

 

[Paperkat]

Good morning PaperKat!

Good afternoon to you

 

[FindAmy]

Is there a way to find out?

It's not on the court docs from what I saw. Did the Bradleys ever question this?

Maybe I missed it?

I have no idea why the Bradleys would want the ship's registration number.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I don't think that Amy would have known the escorts at the Affordable Adult Vacations resort because I doubt that she was ever there.

Waitasec, how can you doubt she was ever there after seeing those pictures? Not all of those women would have been on an exotic island in a beautiful resort, that's obvious by looking at them bc they don't look high class at all, therefore wouldn't fit in. So how would you know if some of those women didn't see Amy or know anything about their bosses (the people involved in the site)? To discount other women is IMO negligent. That's not meant with disrespect, please don't think that.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I have no idea why the Bradleys would want the ship's registration number.

Huh? That doesn't even make sense. Their daughter is missing from a ship and you say you have no idea why they'd want that registration number?

Example: We went to Florida for vacay. My husband drove down with us but had to fly home for work. I had his flight number both ways, going home & coming back. The id# of the plane was with his information for both flights. It's a must in my eyes.

The registration number links all occupants of said ship, ports of call, all employees for all dates worked on that ship (since RC has multiple ships & rotating employees), pollution including garbage disposal logs, all currency trades on ship, all purchases & receipt logs, all people leaving & going logs including employees (and dance troups or entertainment companies), etc.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

There is no sketch. All that is known is that he was middle aged and had dark hair.

Why won't there a sketch of this dark haired middle aged man that they said they noticed watching her but there's sketches of other guys? The man on the ship could have been the buyer...

 

[FindAmy]

I totally agree. Also to note: I investigated Carlos & Charlie's after Natalee Holloway's disappearance. I read an ongoing account of secretive dealings in the human trade & drugs (not to mention money laundering) on Aruba being a jumping point for other Carib lands. The 2 people talking releasing this info were sick of the VdS's and other shady people (their island govt) getting away with stuff like this. They said when that oil company was gone, there was no other means of revenue but for tourism. The main link to everything going on with illegal stuff was always C&C's.

The Carlos and Charlies club has never been directly connected to Amy's disappearance. It was simply the club that Amy was invited to go to with the waiter. The cruise ship was docked in Aruba. Carlos and Charlies was a very popular club that was located near the cruise terminal. Passengers from the cruise ships went to the club. There has never been an indication that anyone connected to Carlos and Charlies had anything to do with Amy's disappearance. Amy never went to Carlos and Charlies. She stayed on the ship with her family.

 

[FindAmy]

Waitasec, how can you doubt she was ever there after seeing those pictures? Not all of those women would have been on an exotic island in a beautiful resort, that's obvious by looking at them bc they don't look high class at all, therefore wouldn't fit in. So how would you know if some of those women didn't see Amy or know anything about their bosses (the people involved in the site)? To discount other women is IMO negligent. That's not meant with disrespect, please don't think that.

I don't believe that Amy Bradley was kidnapped for prostitution. The escorts at Affordable Adult Vacations and the Hibiscus Hotel were prostitutes.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I don't believe that Amy Bradley was kidnapped for prostitution. The escorts at Affordable Adult Vacations and the Hibiscus Hotel were prostitutes.

You're completely missing my point. I mean completely. I'm not referring to Amy being a prostitute or even running in prostitute circles. I'm referring to the other women and their connections to the owners and their enterprises...mainly the circle their bosses may run in, islands they may have been on, repeat clientele, bodyguards, establishments they've been housed at. People like that can be bought for the right price, meaning paying for their knowledge. Afterall, the only reason they're in the game is for the money (if they're in it of their own accord). Not all trafficked women are there bc they were kidnapped. Some are of their own free will. The ones there on their own are there for the money & don't care about handing over 50-60% bc they're housed & protected, they're there for quick easy money & not the orgasm, that's obvious. Either way, some would have been in contact with some of the same people responsible for adding Amy's picture to that site. They would be familiar with their other establishments. That's what I was trying to say.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I think the buyer was on the ship, if not the buyer then the middleman. I think there were several paid scouts with a leader assigned to the liaison/middleman.

 

[Wondergirl]

I am so happy to see Thread #2 for Amy. Still working on catching up, but, thank-you to everyone for working endlessly to bring Amy home.

 

[FindAmy]

I think the buyer was on the ship, if not the buyer then the middleman. I think there were several paid scouts with a leader assigned to the liaison/middleman.

In the previous thread, I explained why I thought there was a connection to someone on Rhapsody of the Seas. I do believe that Amy was chosen by someone on the cruise ship after the Bradleys joined the cruise.

 

[FindAmy]

I am so happy to see Thread #2 for Amy. Still working on catching up, but, thank-you to everyone for working endlessly to bring Amy home.

Wondergirl, I just love your new avatar. That was actually part of a Power Point presentation.

 

[elepher50]

FindAmy,

If you are able to, can you confirm that a group of scientologists visited with the Bradley's on the cruise ship before Amy went missing. Also, if you can, just give a few words as to the "flavour" of the conversation between the scientologists and the Bradleys.

Only if you can and if you cannot then I understand.