VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #3

[88keys]

Also, off topic, but can someone tell me how to contact a moderator directly? I have a question for them.

 

[Hiandmighty]

The ultimate verification of any kind in this case, would imo, be if either Amy's body was located, or Amy turned up alive in the flesh!

That would sure end the mystery and give her family information!!

 

[Hiandmighty]

Well, if this M.A. is the same woman whose photos I just saw, I think she looks more like an older Amy than the woman on the bed.

The woman on the bed, Moo, is not amy. Amy appeared to be a long waisted woman and tall. The woman on the bed is very short waisted and appears to be around 5'2".

Such an odd suggestion, though, about this other person.

And it is hard to imagine what Amy would look like today at 40.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Ok. I think the MA name was a dig about RCC vs. Carnival, because her husband is the CEO of Carnival cruises.

 

[88keys]

Ok. I think the MA name was a dig about RCC vs. Carnival, because her husband is the CEO of Carnival cruises.

I thought her husband owned the Miami Heat, or something like that.

 

[Hiandmighty]

He also owns the Miami Heat, you are right about that. In fact, after Costa Concordia half-sank, he continued to sit at the Heat games instead of acting concerned about the disaster.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Also, off topic, but can someone tell me how to contact a moderator directly? I have a question for them.

Maybe hit the little triangle on the bottom left?

 

[Hiandmighty]

There seems to be some confusion regarding the photos. The woman with the 'Latino' features is "exotica" . The girl that has been identified as Amy is "jaz", the fair skinned brunette, and definitely not Latino.

The one on the bed (jaz) looks more like the actress Stockard Channing to me than Amy. To me, different chin, different body shape, different length of waist... I don't see anything on her that looks like Amy. :moo:

 

[marie-chantal]

The one on the bed (jaz) looks more like the actress Stockard Channing to me than Amy. To me, different chin, different body shape, different length of waist... I don't see anything on her that looks like Amy. :moo:

I go back and forth about how much I think Jaz looks like Amy. The coloring is what prevents me from completely believing they are the same person. Jaz looks like she might be Italian or either a mixture of Anglo-European with Latina. Amy does not. A tan and some hairdye would never give someone like Amy a swarthy look (Jaz has a swarthy look IMO). The shape of their eyes is similar, and the ears are similar, but the body types are different. Amy had an athletic frame with what seemed like muscular shoulders. Jaz does not. Even if Amy was kept away from any sort of workout, her shoulders would not change their shape. They'd change their tone, but not the overall shape. I don't know where I saw this, but I thought I read that the FBI's agent who analyzed the picture said he'd stake his career on it being Amy; yet they also sent it to Scotland Yard, and they concluded that Jaz was not Amy. Does anybody else remember this?

I kind of wish that of the two possibilities, Amy had been kidnapped; because it means that she could get rescued. Sadly though, I tend to think that something happened to her on the ship. Perhaps she was drugged and assaulted by Yellow, and then killed. Or maybe it was an accident that happened with Yellow and he freaked out. Either way, I can't stop thinking about how the FBI did NOT search the ship until two or three days later when the ship sailed to its next port. There would have been plenty of time to get rid of a body, and there would have been plenty of space to stash the body until the ship went back to sea. It's a sad thing to think, but that's what the evidence seems like to me. I feel very sorry for her family. What an awful, awful thing they've had to endure for all these years.

I get angry thinking of how the family has been scammed in the past. Nothing but the lowest of the low would take advantage of people in their shoes. Did those scammers do any prison time? They should have-and many, many years, IMO.

 

[Hiandmighty]

For sure the boat was allowed to cruise on to another port with any possible evidence with it-- And that happens for every person missing from a cruise ship. I can't imagine having to pack up and debark the ship without your child (even though she is an adult) and then the ship sails off and you are left with no help and no answers and no search. It makes me crazy thinking about it.

I agree. Jaz looks like she has an ethnicity-- I would definitely not describe her as fair skinned brunette.

 

[Salem]

I've deleted a lot of posts in the last two pages of this thread. The posts were removed because they stated facts without links or they were quoting social media without links.

Remember you need links to substantiate anything stated as fact.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[88keys]

Isn't there a way you can analyze someone in a photo to figure out their height? I wonder if anyone ever did that with the Jaz photos. If the proportions of the photo could be figured, then her leg length and overall height could be figured and compared to Amy's.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I wondered that myself. In looking at the photo of Amy and her family at the gangplank I think at Aruba, she appears to me to have a very long torso. Also, I noticed that when I watched the videos of her dancing. The woman on the bed seems to be very short waisted. But it's neither here nor there I suppose.

 

[Murkywaters]

I don't know where I saw this, but I thought I read that the FBI's agent who analyzed the picture said he'd stake his career on it being Amy; yet they also sent it to Scotland Yard, and they concluded that Jaz was not Amy. Does anybody else remember this?

I kind of wish that of the two possibilities, Amy had been kidnapped; because it means that she could get rescued. Sadly though, I tend to think that something happened to her on the ship. Perhaps she was drugged and assaulted by Yellow, and then killed. Or maybe it was an accident that happened with Yellow and he freaked out. Either way, I can't stop thinking about how the FBI did NOT search the ship until two or three days later when the ship sailed to its next port. There would have been plenty of time to get rid of a body, and there would have been plenty of space to stash the body until the ship went back to sea. It's a sad thing to think, but that's what the evidence seems like to me. I feel very sorry for her family. What an awful, awful thing they've had to endure for all these years.

I get angry thinking of how the family has been scammed in the past. Nothing but the lowest of the low would take advantage of people in their shoes. Did those scammers do any prison time? They should have-and many, many years, IMO.

Jaz's picture was never analyzed by Scotland yard. I think you are thinking of Tara Calico. Jaz's picture was sent to the Bradley's via email by a man who looks for women on escort sites who might have been trafficked. It was sent to the FBI, they took it very seriously and investigated the website. Amy's parents got in touch with a forensic detective. He analyzed Amy and Jaz's photos, he stated he would bet his career it was their daughter.

And about [modsnip] Frank Jones, he conned the Bradley's out of $200.000 and it was nearly all donations given by the public. He was sentenced to five years in jail and ordered to pay back every penny he conned. However one thing they can't get back was the time they spent on that bogus investigation. He stole TWO YEARS they could have spent legitimately searching. That's what angers me the most. And this wasn't the last time they've had con artists contact them.

Isn't there a way you can analyze someone in a photo to figure out their height? I wonder if anyone ever did that with the Jaz photos. If the proportions of the photo could be figured, then her leg length and overall height could be figured and compared to Amy's.

The forensic detective analyzed Amy's forearm length and body structure. He concluded facial structure, hairline, and multiple ear piercings, nose shape ect made Jaz a perfect match.
http://i.imgur.com/MIaVHFT.jpg

 

[AddysMom7610]

Thank you for bumping that, MurkyWaters. I appreciate it.

And thank you Salem for keeping tabs on the thread. I would hate to see it shut down again for getting out of control.


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[Hiandmighty]

The thing about this "Wesley Neville" is that when I google him, I find no information (other than this file you linked) which discusses anything about Amy Bradley.

I disagree with these comments. The face is different. The nose is different. The jawline is different. The body shape is different. The eyes are different.

Do you have any links that confirm Wes Neville worked on the Amy Bradley case? The web seems to be silent on this issue. Thanks.

 

[Murkywaters]

The thing about this "Wesley Neville" is that when I google him, I find no information (other than this file you linked) which discusses anything about Amy Bradley.

I disagree with these comments. The face is different. The nose is different. The jawline is different. The body shape is different. The eyes are different.

http://www.forensicartist.com/doenetwork/bio.html

''Wesley Neville has worked as a Forensic Artist and was responsible for forensic art related duties, which included 2D and 3D Facial Reconstruction, Composite Drawing, Image Enhancement, Age-Progression, Video Sketching, and Demonstrative Evidence. Wesley has assisted in cases from around the world.''

 

[Hiandmighty]

So nothing that confirms Wesley Neville worked on the Amy Bradley case?

(I personally feel that file you linked wasn't done by a professional)

 

[Hiandmighty]

Let me explain how I searched:

1) first I googled "Wesley Neville" + "Amy Bradley" and nothing comes up confirming he worked on her case. (Barely anything comes up which is strange)

2) then I googled "Wes Neville" + "Amy Bradley" and again nothing comes up confirming he worked on her case.

3) then I googled Wesley Neville + FBI + Amy Bradley (no quotes anywhere) and once again nothing comes up from a reliable source linking him to the Amy Bradley case.

Therefore, I am personally concluding he did not work on the Amy Bradley case.

If someone has proof, please post it so I can read it. Thank you.

 

[Murkywaters]

Let me explain how I searched:

1) first I googled "Wesley Neville" + "Amy Bradley" and nothing comes up confirming he worked on her case. (Barely anything comes up which is strange)

2) then I googled "Wes Neville" + "Amy Bradley" and again nothing comes up confirming he worked on her case.

3) then I googled Wesley Neville + FBI + Amy Bradley (no quotes anywhere) and once again nothing comes up from a reliable source linking him to the Amy Bradley case.

Therefore, I am personally concluding he did not work on the Amy Bradley case.

If someone has proof, please post it so I can read it. Thank you.

You are free to think what you like, that would be a question to ask Wesley W. Neville not me. He has worked on many of crime cases over the years, privately and publicly. Iva explained on Vanished with Beth Holloway about how she got in touch with Neville.