dangrsmind, it's hard to argue with all of this extensive research you have done. I'm sure it is all accurate; I just don't think it's ever going to apply to this case. It's branching out too far. Why do I form this opinion? I'm around these people. I've met a lot of these SKR people because of ties with friends that listen to SKR. I've had conversations. I've heard stories from them, through others, I've basically gathered a lot of information over the last year and half before the crime was committed, and now I'm watching everyone draw their conclusions which has been fascinating to me. The most fascinating yet has been yours, because it’s complex. Complex beyond anything I’ve heard from any of the SKR group. Complex beyond the mentality of 90% of any SKR fan I’ve met. I’m not saying you’re wrong, you could be dead on, and after all I never met Sam. But I’ll give you a breakdown of the people that I know closely that are “SKR Disciples” or whatever, the ‘street team’ as I would call them. I’ll use their real names because that actually protects their identity better, believe that or not.
Chris – I’ve known Chris for 15 years or more. We grew up in the same small Indiana town. We weren’t always great friends when we were very young, but became great friends through middle/high school. His parents weren’t the ideal parents, I won’t get into why but I will say his parents more or less forced him into rebellion. Any of us growing up in the conditions and rules he was under would have rebelled, just maybe not in the same way. He became a juggalo early into High School. Began acting out and dressing much differently and pretty much not giving a ****. Not about what people thought, not about anything. His attitude from then to now has basically become ‘If you can’t handle who I am, what I say, what I do, then just stay away from me’ This isn’t always something I have liked, because he can tend to act out of line and attract a lot of attention, and I never liked attracting too much attention. It’s hard to say for sure if he is serious, but he actually has his own religion. By the way he preaches about it and never lets it down, I would say he’s dead seriously about it. He actually named if after himself and believes he is his own god. But not in the way you may think. To break it down, he pretty much believes ‘Hey, I’m your friend. I’m nothing special. I have no powers; I have no super vision, nothing. But I’m your friend and if you need me, just call me. I’ll never judge you, I’ll never punish you, and so I’m the perfect god.’ I remember hearing of a conversation between him and sictanik where sic said “If I wasn’t a Satanist, I would be under your religion.” Chris has an appreciation for all music, all forms of art. He just likes to have something to call his own, and SKR is it. He has friends that perform and promote it, so he helps them and in return gets free stuff.
George – I’ve known him for 2 years now, and he’s one of my best friends. One of the best guys I’ve ever met. Second day I knew him at one of our annual beer pong tournaments, I told him “Man, I want to take you to meet my mom. She’ll see you, judge you and within 5 minutes that judgment will flip around. I was right, mom always asks how George is doing, he’s just that kind of guy. He’s another type that likes all music. He says his favorite is horrorcore because it’s brutal. He will routinely show me a new song, which has become awkward in the last few weeks because of what has happened and what I have seen discussed on this board. But he will show me a new song and more often than not burst out laughing when certain parts come up. Either because yes, it was something funny that was ‘rapped’ or because it was shocking. Like “they did not just say that” type of thing. This guy, like me, has no religion and isn’t buying sic as being something more than he is.
Joe – I’ve known Joe as long as I’ve known George. I don’t know his quite as well, our personality’s kind of clash sometimes. He’s a good dude though; he just likes to act ‘hard’ a lot. Horrorcore is ‘hard’ to him. The ‘wicked ****’ is the ‘hard ****’ to him. That’s why he likes it. I can’t speak too much else on Joe, I just know that he’s a leader, not a follower and he’s not looking at Sic as his ‘leader’ or ‘mentor’ in any capacity. I’d bet my house on that.
A couple years back Chris and I lived in side by side apartment buildings. We would regularly have beer pong tournaments every weekend. I would just crawl out of my bedroom window, walk across the roof about 35 feet, knock on his windows and climb in. Then later that night, when I was really drunk, I could go right across the roof again without having to speak to any police or anything. It was perfect. One day I knocked on the window because I needed to use is phone. I came in and to my surprise his living room was full of pretty much the SKR label, they were all sharing what I’ll call a special cigar. I waved to everyone and everyone kind of just looked at me with disbelief that I had just crawled through Chris’ window. I used the phone, shook hands with everyone talked for a little bit and went back to my apartment. One I got back through my window I looked back across and everyone was looking out of his windows, watching me crawl in and laughing their asses off, like they couldn’t believe it.
No satanic rituals going down. Just some friends sharing a good time. No 16 years old girls either.
Dangrsmind, if you come close to being right, which I doubt, it will be under the circumstance that sictanik is brainwashing some of his fans, and just hanging out with the rest. He’s choosing victims here and there, leaving the rest alone. You can find these unsurprising connections with Satanism and Sicntanik’s lyrics, but I doubt anyone is going to find a real cult. People can buy into what you’re saying because hey, you’re a smart guy that on top of being smart is a Google and Wikipedia wiz.
But take it from someone who is close to the people that are actually close to the situation. You’re reading too deep into this. Let’s stick to the facts of the case. We have one bad seed with social problems that went over the edge, most likely because of a text message on Emma’s phone. I know that puts the brakes on too much more discussion before more facts are presented, but facts are facts. I’d rather read into facts here than into deep, ongoing speculation with no real facts to back it up.
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