Nikolai
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2) The followers call themselves unholy disciples.......
These "followers" that called themselves "unholy disciples" were the victims.
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Am I saying that McC wasn't able to just snap on his own? No, but the involvement of 3 of the 5 players here in this genre deserves more than just a peek at it.
Im sure LE is or has looked into that? Also likely the fact that 2 of the 5 players were boyfriend and girlfriend while the other 3 players very close with the girlfriend.
Am I saying that Shrimm devised a plan down to the letter and told Sam to go do it? No.
Am I saying that Shrimm suggested he kill those particular people? No.
Am I saying that Shrimm should be morally responsible, if not legally responsible, for influencing a sick young man with sick intentions? Yes.
If you start putting legal responsibility on people who have done nothing illegal but have just said or acted in ways that suggest something illegal the prisons will be filled with people from the entertainment world. If somebody is stupid enough to kill somebody with the motive of "sicktanick and his music" than there is a serious problem with that person, and that doesnt happen so why I'm entertaining it is beyond me.
Telling me that he won't get arrested over this is like saying OJ is innocent because a jury said so. There may not be enough to evidence to charge him lawfully, but that doesn't mean we can't or should not examine the same type of concept that may be going on with the modern day twist of the internet. Like I said before the internet is the new Spahn Ranch were they virtually live together calling themselves a family.
Of course theres no evidence to arrest him, he had nothing to do with it. And now comparing this guy to OJ Simpson? wow, just wow. This guy for all you know in his personal life may have never hurt anybody and maybe has even helped people. Now becuase a guy he knew killed his girlfriend, her friend and her family, he's now getting labeled OJ Simpson. Good job coming up with that.
Shrimm seems to have quite an effect on those who encounter him. He has a devout following. Personally I think he needs Richard Simmons more than Satan right now and some sweatin' to the oldies like Black Sabbath, but hey, the chicks at SKR dig him and are even proud to announce that he raped them or molested them (Raz too) by buying the merchandise that says so and wearing it - flaunting it - Hmmm. Sounds kinda mansonesque to me.
You really think all of that is to be taken literal? Unreal.
I am not igonoring the distinguishing factors, just pointing out that we might not want to denounce the possibility that another version of a Manson might, in our lifetime, gather and infect a group of outcast youth. He may not be as charismatic, or he may be (unless you know him it would be hard to tell) but I think he WANTS to be idolized and sees HIMSELF as being a messenger in his music.
Of course its possible anything is, like turtles flying. What makes you think this is a manson like cult that is going around killing people? Because of this crime that Sam McCroskey committed on devoted members of your made up cult?
Putting the spotlight on him might get some parents attention and leave him a little less supernatural - just think if Manson had been publicized and what a joke he would have been??? Why not turn the spotlight on these cockroaches?
Getting some attention and spotlight to parents about the subject matter of the music is fine and one thing, labeling another innocent human being a murderer is quite another. That is a very heavy thing to drop on another persons shoulders, something that could have a lot of negative effect on their life.
If you are looking to argue the point that he won't be arrested, don't bother - I agree he probably won't. That's not the point. Just because the law can't prove something beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean it's not real. OJ.
How can you compare OJ Simpson to this guy? That is the most ridiculous and silly thing I have ever heard. Do you realize OJ Simpson was charged and put on trial for murder? Do you realize all of the evidence including DNA evidence there was against OJ? Now do you realize that there is no evidence whatsoever that this dude even knew this crime was going to happen?