VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #16 *ARREST*

[Emaa]

I was gone all day and during a late lunch around 2, I was clicking through news sites on my phone and I SWEAR I saw a report that the search for Hannah was extending to Texas. I have no idea which site that was on, but I was mostly checking TV websites from central and sw VA. Did anyone else see a report on this?

sheesh

I should have finished watching the Galveston press conference. Sheriff says they were doing a search for her around the area where JLM was found.

 

[Elley Mae]

I need to see if any drugs have come up missing at his place of employment.

I thought about that but having been in a hospital in the not so distant past they have meds under lock % key in a cryptic kind of way. Very hard to get meds out of a hospital, not so sure about the used iv bags that would have morphine and whether or not there is anything of value left in the tubing and whatnot. jmo idk

 

[Kale]

Yes earlier today there reports of searching in Texas. When Longo gave his Presser today he/they feel she is in VA. It's good they checked/checking Texas tho as it seems to me to be part of a thorough Investigation.

Better safe than sorry. No one would take kindly to LE cutting corners here.

 

[pjop]

WOW. Really? Does he think jail = a nice hotel w/ room service? What a jerk.

Yeah, it sure ain't Grandma's, is it?

 

[JoCoKSEyes]

JM does talk slow. Not convinced yet that he is "slow". Question-would JM have to write SAT's for his entrance into College despite being admitted on a Scholarship? Do some schools not require it? Our Son went to school in the U.S. on a Scholarship but he had to write SAT's. (Our Country does not have SAT's)

I believe he would need at least a 17 on the ACT to play at Liberty.


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[ttcRider]

oh man... I was worried this would happen; too many threads! why why why? :scared: :tantrum:

 

[Claudia]

Local news is just showing video of dogs/LE. "Combing the area."

I love carter mountain, it's beautiful.

I love it too! My dad and I have gone a few times and I was just saying I want to go again!

 

[Claudia]

Longo did address the smaller white girl claim. Stated he was unaware of such.

I've missed a lot today. Can someone briefly update me on this smaller white girl? I'm sorry...

 

[TravelingBug]

I am kind of surprised that the sexual assault incident was over twelve years ago and nothing related to women/sex assault since then, as far as we know. If he does not match any other known cases, I might wonder about any pre-meditation, possible accidental death while with Hannah, etc...just not sure. So much depends on whether he is linked to other crimes. I know he could have just not been arrested on other attempts from 2002-2014 but it does seem odd. Jmo

Or he had the same pattern as in the assault with the lawyer in 2009...

Do something (impulse? intentional? or?) and then realize what he's done or the consequences of it and become contrite and try to make things right, and basically almost make the victim(s) feel like he was sorry, or it was an accident, and not press things.

We also had the lawyer say he thought something was basically off - him being depressed or even suicidal.

If someone does something, suddenly seems very sorry and wants to fix things, and/or you're also worried about their own mental health, and you think, well, he doesn't have any other charges like this, etc., I could see A LOT of other incidents that all played out like a bunch we already know of.

Charges being pressed against JM, but then ultimately them being dropped, could easily be a pattern, IMO.

 

[Kale]

LE sure seems dead set on Carter Mountain. They searched there before. I know I said before that I changed my mind about JM maybe moving the body from a place in VA to a place in TX, but now I'm wondering if they have reason to believe that the body has been shuffled around VA?

 

[MSNurse]

http://abc13.com/news/she-brought-a-nationwide-manhunt-to-an-end/324428/
She says she first called a local Crime Stoppers number, but she says no one took her call seriously. "I told them the guy you're looking for is on the beach where I am," she says.
A dispatcher at the Galveston County Sheriff's Office was more responsive. Karen waited on the beach for a deputy to arrive.

BBM

WOW...That's reassuring. Glad the Sheriff's office listened. Perfect example of how every single bit of info should be called in and every single lead should be pursued. Texas? Who would have thought? May he do the right thing and lead them to Hannah.

JMO

 

[Perplexed 123]

I've missed a lot today. Can someone briefly update me on this smaller white girl? I'm sorry...

a reporter said he'd talked to 2 people that claimed a smaller white girl, not HG, was in JM's company earlier that day

Longo said he was unaware of these claims and asked anyone with further info to come forward

 

[Emaa]

Or he had the same pattern as in the assault with the lawyer in 2009...

Do something (impulse? intentional? or?) and then realize what he's done or the consequences of it and become contrite and try to make things right, and basically almost make the victim(s) feel like he was sorry, or it was an accident, and not press things.

We also had the lawyer say he thought something was basically off - him being depressed or even suicidal.

If someone does something, suddenly seems very sorry and wants to fix things, and/or you're also worried about their own mental health, and you think, well, he doesn't have any other charges like this, etc., I could see A LOT of other incidents that all played out like a bunch we already know of.

Charges being pressed against JM, but then ultimately them being dropped, could easily be a pattern, IMO.

When I heard the reporter describe his interview with the attorney regarding the assault charge it reminded me of a domestic abuser. Violent lashing out followed by apologies and contrition.

 

[Kale]

http://abc13.com/news/she-brought-a-nationwide-manhunt-to-an-end/324428/
She says she first called a local Crime Stoppers number, but she says no one took her call seriously. "I told them the guy you're looking for is on the beach where I am," she says.
A dispatcher at the Galveston County Sheriff's Office was more responsive. Karen waited on the beach for a deputy to arrive.

BBM

WOW...That's reassuring. Glad the Sheriff's office listened. Perfect example of how every single bit of info should be called in and every single lead should be pursued. Texas? Who would have thought? May he do the right thing and lead them to Hannah.

JMO

Is this saying that she called two different numbers? Wow, I can imagine thinking I saw a suspect, and worrying and second guessing my judgment... If I were in some way ridiculed by the first person I called, I wonder if I would call the second number? Thank goodness she had so much confidence.

 

[pjop]

I love it too! My dad and I have gone a few times and I was just saying I want to go again!

My kids and I always went every year in the fall to pick apples. It's really nice. They have a hayride that takes you down to the apple trees. They have "apple everything". Apple slushies, apple donuts. So yum! Lots of families there. People bring their doggies. It's a great time. Love it there.

 

[Kale]

My kids and I always went every year in the fall to pick apples. It's really nice. They have a hayride that takes you down to the apple trees. They have "apple everything". Apple slushies, apple donuts. So yum! Lots of families there. People bring their doggies. It's a great time. Love it there.

Oh, gosh, I hope no children end up finding anything there that will scar them =/

 

[Bravo]

I've missed a lot today. Can someone briefly update me on this smaller white girl? I'm sorry...

Some days ago it was reported/tweeted whatever that a neighbor had spotted JM with a small white girl hours prior to JM meeting up with Hannah. Not sure if it was aft. or early eve. Small white girl did not fit Hannah's description. Today this question was asked at the presser with Longo. He stated he was unaware of this.

 

[Claudia]

STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS

No statute of limitations for any felony

Va. Code Ann. § 19.2-8 Limitation of prosecutions

For any misdemeanor listed at left, within one year after commission of the offense
Does not apply to any person fleeing from justice or concealing himself within or without the Commonwealth
https://rainn.org/public-policy/legal-resources/virginia/statutes-of-limitations


§ 19.2-8. Limitation of prosecutions.

A prosecution for a misdemeanor, or any pecuniary fine, forfeiture, penalty or amercement, shall be commenced within one year next after there was cause therefor, except that a prosecution for petit larceny may be commenced within five years, and for an attempt to produce abortion, within two years after commission of the offense.

A prosecution for any misdemeanor violation of § 54.1-3904 shall be commenced within two years of the discovery of the offense.

A prosecution for violation of laws governing the placement of children for adoption without a license pursuant to § 63.2-1701 shall be commenced within one year from the date of the filing of the petition for adoption.

A prosecution for making a false statement or representation of a material fact knowing it to be false or knowingly failing to disclose a material fact, to obtain or increase any benefit or other payment under the Virginia Unemployment Compensation Act (§ 60.2-100 et seq.) shall be commenced within three years next after the commission of the offense.

A prosecution for any violation of § 10.1-1320, 62.1-44.32 (b), 62.1-194.1, or Article 11 (§ 62.1-44.34:14 et seq.) of Chapter 3.1 of Title 62.1 that involves the discharge, dumping or emission of any toxic substance as defined in § 32.1-239 shall be commenced within three years next after the commission of the offense.

Prosecution of Building Code violations under § 36-106 shall commence within one year of discovery of the offense by the building official; provided that such discovery occurs within two years of the date of initial occupancy or use after construction of the building or structure, or the issuance of a certificate of use and occupancy for the building or structure, whichever is later. However, prosecutions under § 36-106 relating to the maintenance of existing buildings or structures as contained in the Uniform Statewide Building Code shall commence within one year of the discovery of the offense by the building official.

Prosecution of any misdemeanor violation of § 54.1-111 shall commence within one year of the discovery of the offense by the complainant, but in no case later than five years from occurrence of the offense.

Prosecution of any misdemeanor violation of any professional licensure requirement imposed by a locality shall commence within one year of the discovery of the offense by the complainant, but in no case later than five years from occurrence of the offense.

Prosecution of nonfelonious offenses which constitute malfeasance in office shall commence within two years next after the commission of the offense.

Prosecution of any violation of § 55-79.87, 55-79.88, 55-79.89, 55-79.90, 55-79.93, 55-79.94, 55-79.95, 55-79.103, or any rule adopted under or order issued pursuant to § 55-79.98, shall commence within three years next after the commission of the offense.

Prosecution of illegal sales or purchases of wild birds, wild animals and freshwater fish under § 29.1-553 shall commence within three years after commission of the offense.

Prosecution of violations under Title 58.1 for offenses involving false or fraudulent statements, documents or returns, or for the offense of willfully attempting in any manner to evade or defeat any tax or the payment thereof, or for the offense of willfully failing to pay any tax, or willfully failing to make any return at the time or times required by law or regulations shall commence within three years next after the commission of the offense, unless a longer period is otherwise prescribed.

Prosecution of violations of subsection A or B of § 3.2-6570 shall commence within five years of the commission of the offense, except violations regarding agricultural animals shall commence within one year of the commission of the offense.

A prosecution for a violation of § 18.2-386.1 shall be commenced within five years of the commission of the offense.

A prosecution for any violation of the Campaign Finance Disclosure Act, Chapter 9.3 (§ 24.2-945 et seq.) of Title 24.2, shall commence within one year of the discovery of the offense but in no case more than three years after the date of the commission of the offense.

A prosecution of a crime that is punishable as a misdemeanor pursuant to the Virginia Computer Crimes Act (§ 18.2-152.1 et seq.) or pursuant to § 18.2-186.3 for identity theft shall be commenced before the earlier of (i) five years after the commission of the last act in the course of conduct constituting a violation of the article or (ii) one year after the existence of the illegal act and the identity of the offender are discovered by the Commonwealth, by the owner, or by anyone else who is damaged by such violation.

A prosecution for a violation of § 18.2-260.1 shall be commenced within three years of the commission of the offense.

Nothing in this section shall be construed to apply to any person fleeing from justice or concealing himself within or without the Commonwealth to avoid arrest or be construed to limit the time within which any prosecution may be commenced for desertion of a spouse or child or for neglect or refusal or failure to provide for the support and maintenance of a spouse or child.

(Code 1950, § 19.1-8; 1960, c. 366; 1974, c. 466; 1975, c. 495; 1976, cc. 114, 620; 1977, c. 108; 1978, c. 730; 1979, c. 243; 1980, c. 496; 1981, c. 31; 1984, c. 601; 1987, c. 488; 1990, cc. 575, 976; 1992, cc. 177, 435, 650; 1996, c. 484; 1998, c. 566; 1999, c. 620; 2005, cc. 746, 761, 827; 2006, cc. 193, 787, 892; 2008, c. 769; 2011, cc. 118, 143, 494, 553; 2014, c. 169.)
https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+19.2-8


http://victimsofcrime.org/docs/DNA ...sault-check-chart---final---copy.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Wow... I live in VA and I didn't know this! Of course, it's not like I have a lot of run ins with the law, so....

 

[Dushi]

a reporter said he'd talked to 2 people that claimed a smaller white girl, not HG, was in JM's company earlier that day

Longo said he was unaware of these claims and asked anyone with further info to come forward

Disturbing

 

[Claudia]

a reporter said he'd talked to 2 people that claimed a smaller white girl, not HG, was in JM's company earlier that day

Longo said he was unaware of these claims and asked anyone with further info to come forward

Oh, okay! Thank you!