GUILTY VA - Nicole Lovell, 13, Blacksburg, 27 January 2016 #7 Accused Pleads "No Contest"

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Nk has history of depression and cutting, no previous record of hallucinations or psychosis mentioned previously that I can find.Her internship, drama, sports, and academic success also throw at the very least doubt against her lawyer's insanity defense. Are there any sketches of the trial, please?
 
I don't know which channel I had the news on last night... was either WSET13, WDBJ7, or WSLS10...but it mentioned Keepers as having borderline personality disorder and a few other mental diagnosis. I sure hope they aren't planning on using an insanity defense because IMO, not gonna fly. Mental issues have no bearing on IQ so I realize that someone with mental issues could be admitted to Tech, however, knowing right from wrong is what insanity is about, and IMO Keepers knew damn well that killing someone was WRONG! Why go through dumping the body in another state if you didn't know you had done wrong?? Exactly. THEY BOTH KNEW!

I personally think that Keepers could have any issues she chose to have. I think she could have faked anything. Jodi Arias sure did, but she's still in prison! You can fool some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people even some of the time!
 
I hope and pray that all her talking before she got a lawyer are admitted into both trials! They are HER words, not twisted..straight from her mouth, and the jury should be given all the facts, so they can make an educated decision! Information should not be withheld from jurors!!
 
The very nerve to even state 'community service'!!! AS IF! She thought if she talked first, the state would be lenient on HER and she would get a much less sentence or no charges at all and have to testify against him. I'm positive that's what happened.

BUT....she was WRONG! All her helpful information was just digging the hole deeper, and sealing her fate. Jabberjaws!
 
Doesn't this also beg the question of why her parents thought she could handle college???


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Yup, sure would IF any of those statements are true. Not just diagnosis after the fact. If she has documentation of those illnesses before admission to the college, then there's lots I would question.

While having an intelligent child is good, their mental health must always be considered. My children both have anxiety attacks. While they have the smarts to have immediately gone into a university after high school, I encouraged both to go to community college instead. That way they both could ease their way into the college scene, without the pressure of drinking, drugs, and social stigmas. They could focus on their grades, not the college life. It worked well for them. Neither was ready emotionally at the end of high school to leave home immediately and jump into the college scene and I knew they weren't!
 
COMMUNITY SERVICE?

When my daughter was away at college, she and her roommate got 'community service' for having a joint in the side pocket of the passenger door. That is what community service is designed for. NOT for the brutal killing of an innocent young girl, ffs.......:no:

I agree, and I think that the fact that she made that comment glaringly shows how mentally unstable she is. That is a completely irrational statement, along with her lighthearted demeanor. I can't help but wonder if her parents had any idea of how unglued she really is. She seems to have hid it pretty well up to this point... aside from the cutting, that is. Were the various mental diagnoses made while she was in high school? That's what I'd like to know...


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I agree, and I think that the fact that she made that comment glaringly shows how mentally unstable she is. That is a completely irrational statement, along with her lighthearted demeanor. I can't help but wonder if her parents had any idea of how unglued she really is. She seems to have hid it pretty well up to this point... aside from the cutting, that is. Were the various mental diagnoses made while she was in high school? That's what I'd like to know...


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Much of this behavior could also be attributed to her being raised in a sheltered, privileged environment where kids aren't held accountable and have little interaction with those outside their social class. To some, arrests and prison are things that happen to poor people, not them.

She does seem erratic, possibly depressed, but should be capable of understanding the consequences of her actions. Kids spend enough time on the internet and social media these days to be informed about the real world, what happens to "other people" who help plan murders. But their upbringing and environment make them think they're "better" than others and not subject to the same rules and laws. Affluenza.

Hopefully, the court will appoint some professional, objective experts to provide a psych evaluation instead of relying on the expert opinion of her attorneys and personal health care providers.
 
Much of this behavior could also be attributed to her being raised in a sheltered, privileged environment where kids aren't held accountable and have little interaction with those outside their social class. To some, arrests and prison are things that happen to poor people, not them.

She does seem erratic, possibly depressed, but should be capable of understanding the consequences of her actions. Kids spend enough time on the internet and social media these days to be informed about the real world, what happens to "other people" who help plan murders. But their upbringing and environment make them think they're "better" than others and not subject to the same rules and laws. Affluenza.

Hopefully, the court will appoint some professional, objective experts to provide a psych evaluation instead of relying on the expert opinion of her attorneys and personal health care providers.

I was thinking the same thing, BettyP. That much of her behavior could be the result of being coddled by overprotective parents, especially the childlike and immature demeanor. It would certainly seem that could be the case, if you remember her father's earlier pleas for bail when he cited reasons like needing a gluten free diet and an allergen free environment due to asthma. I'm sure there are thousands of others in jail who also have asthma and a sensitivity to gluten. Perhaps, NK should have considered how uncomfortable her new living situation might be BEFORE she conspired to kill an innocent child.


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Fascinating. This young woman is more disturbed than I'd thought. Not to the level of legal insanity, from what I can tell, but the trial will be interesting...


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Much of this behavior could also be attributed to her being raised in a sheltered, privileged environment where kids aren't held accountable and have little interaction with those outside their social class. To some, arrests and prison are things that happen to poor people, not them.

She does seem erratic, possibly depressed, but should be capable of understanding the consequences of her actions. Kids spend enough time on the internet and social media these days to be informed about the real world, what happens to "other people" who help plan murders. But their upbringing and environment make them think they're "better" than others and not subject to the same rules and laws. Affluenza.

Hopefully, the court will appoint some professional, objective experts to provide a psych evaluation instead of relying on the expert opinion of her attorneys and personal health care providers.

Good points, I do agree with the affluenza angle too. She was attempting to manipulate the situation, but the fact that she thought it would work... that's the crazy part. She should be charged with participating in the murder, in my opinion.


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Yes, she should also be charged with conspiracy to commit murder and at least murder in the 1st Degree Accessory After the Fact.

I guess her parents were perhaps always there to protect her if she got into any trouble & maybe she thought the same thing would happen this time. To her, it may have been just a lark, you know, just for fun. <gag>
 
I promise I'm not a horrible person but I have to admit I hope jail/prison is pure agony for them both. We are standing for you Nicole and will see it through until some justice is prevailed!


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I promise I'm not a horrible person but I have to admit I hope jail/prison is pure agony for them both. We are standing for you Nicole and will see it through until some justice is prevailed!


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If that made you a horrible person, then I'd be one right along with you. I have no sympathy whatsoever for either of these two.


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Especially when the only evidence related to the murder other than Nicole's body was found in HER posession right? I need to go back over the details - trying to figure out why DE isn't charged with capital murder.
 
Especially when the only evidence related to the murder other than Nicole's body was found in HER posession right? I need to go back over the details - trying to figure out why DE isn't charged with capital murder.

Read here to review requirements under Virginia law that define capital murder. In this specific case the accused did not meet the requirements set forth by the law therefore was charged with 1st degree murder.
 
It looks like DE will blame NK and NK will go for insanity defense?
Certainly no question both involved in child's horrible death and either one could have saved her life. NK had depression but insanity? No.
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Read here to review requirements under Virginia law that define capital murder. In this specific case the accused did not meet the requirements set forth by the law therefore was charged with 1st degree murder.

I've always found it interesting that the first possibility wasn't met: "1. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of abduction, as defined in § 18.2-48, when such abduction was committed with the intent to extort money or a pecuniary benefit or with the intent to defile the victim of such abduction."

I would say then that the messages between DE and the victim must have been coyly worded to be flirtatious but it overtly sexual. That is just how it seems to me, though. I'd be interested t see the transcripts.


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This is still one of the most bizarre cases I've followed. It's a good thing they were both not very bright (despite apparently having good enough grades to get into VA Tech) because they probably would have gone on to be serial killers.
 
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