Verdict: GUILTY for both Millard and Smich of 1st degree murder

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In my daughters case the perp plead guilty at the last minute so there wasn't an actual trial, just court appearances. My daughter was able to read her victim impact statement.
 
canadiangirl said:
I think her victim impact statement will shake all of us to the core. I'm not overly emotional but she is one strong woman with a very strong presence representing Tim everywhere
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I wish that she didn't have to make a victim impact statement. Surely it can be understood without SB having to say anything. Wouldn't just showing a photo of her husband holding their little girl be sufficient? Looking at that photo drives me to my knees. It presses deep furrows into my brow. Surely her grief and loss are beyond words.
 
palisadesk said:
Even though the sentence is automatic, a sentencing hearing is apparently held approximately a month after the verdict is handed down.

Here's a recent Ontario example of a sentencing hearing following a first-degree murder conviction:

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/08/sentencing-hearing-for-everton-biddersingh-in-daughters-murder
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Thank you so much for the wealth of information that you always post for us. I look forward to your posts, and I always learn something new. [emoji4]

Regarding Melonie Biddersingh, the jury in her step-mother's (Elaine Biddersingh) trial is currently deliberating as well for 1st Degree Murder. I sincerely hope that she is found guilty. It was horrific, unspeakable, what Everton and Elaine did to sweet Melonie and her siblings. How Elaine (with her disturbing grinning face and depraved indifferent attitude) was released on bail in this monstrous tragedy is beyond me.

MOO


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musicaljoke said:
I wish that she didn't have to make a victim impact statement. Surely it can be understood without SB having to say anything. Wouldn't just showing a photo of her husband holding their little girl be sufficient? Looking at that photo drives me to my knees. It presses deep furrows into my brow. Surely her grief and loss are beyond words.
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I don't think she has to do anything she doesn't want to do. The opportunity is there for her if she wants it.
 
Bellers said:
I don't think she has to do anything she doesn't want to do. The opportunity is there for her if she wants it.
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Absolutely. Also, there are times when relatives want the statement to be entered but they aren't able to read it themselves for various understandable reasons, so then it is read in by the Crown.
 
Why do you wish that? The VIS is an option to the victims to take or not. SB no doubt will choose to address the convicted. She is a strong personality and I am sure she has been waiting to address them publicly for a long time. Her words to them will be impactful, haunting and likely leave an impression on these 2 that will continue to affect and haunt them during their sentence. She will find a way with her words to inflict pain that only she can. Not to be spiteful but to make them aware of what they have done and she will do it in a way they will never forget. All the power to her. This will be her chance for justice and a step toward closure and building her new life.
 
NoodlesMcgee said:
Just seems willing to report anything she hears while the other reporters look for more confirmation.
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I got the impression that perhaps she knows one of the guards or someone at the jail, and was told the 'different' info than other reporters were privy to, ie she said about DM screaming while being escorted back to the wagon to travel back to the HWDC; then the story about the shiv in the wall AT the HWDC; then the thing about 'Goofy'.. all of those 'extra things' she had, but nobody else had, were all related to something that happened either in the jail or during the transit process to/from the jail. moo. If she is hearing this first-hand from one of the staff who happens to be her friend.. then I wonder if the friend told her with the understanding that she would be reporting the stuff on live TV news, or if it was supposed to be in confidence. I doubt if she would risk a friendship if it was supposed to have been in confidence, but who knows?
 
musicaljoke said:
I wish that she didn't have to make a victim impact statement. Surely it can be understood without SB having to say anything. Wouldn't just showing a photo of her husband holding their little girl be sufficient? Looking at that photo drives me to my knees. It presses deep furrows into my brow. Surely her grief and loss are beyond words.
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It's up to her:

http://justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/cj-jp/victim/statem-declar/index.html

"Is the preparation of a victim impact statement optional?
The preparation and submission of a victim impact statement is the victim’s choice. The victim may also choose to read their victim impact statement aloud at the sentencing hearing if they wish.

However, consideration of the victim impact statement by the judge is mandatory. The Criminal Code is clear — where a victim impact statement has been prepared, the sentencing judge must consider the statement. The judge must also ask, before imposing sentence, whether the victim has been told about the opportunity to prepare a victim impact statement."
 
deugirtni said:
I got the impression that perhaps she knows one of the guards or someone at the jail, and was told the 'different' info than other reporters were privy to, ie she said about DM screaming while being escorted back to the wagon to travel back to the HWDC; then the story about the shiv in the wall AT the HWDC; then the thing about 'Goofy'.. all of those 'extra things' she had, but nobody else had, were all related to something that happened either in the jail or during the transit process to/from the jail. moo. If she is hearing this first-hand from one of the staff who happens to be her friend.. then I wonder if the friend told her with the understanding that she would be reporting the stuff on live TV news, or if it was supposed to be in confidence. I doubt if she would risk a friendship if it was supposed to have been in confidence, but who knows?
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She said on Twitter "from a source."

Can be any type of criminal informant I'd think, and if the source told her directly knowing she's a reporter, there's nothing wrong with her reporting it. How she chooses to is up to her. At least she didn't name the source. Many reporters count on informants IMO.
 
andreww said:
We really have no indication as to who was using or how much they were using. For instance, heroin was mentioned, but it was only Millard that did it and only once. We heard that the toolbox was brought out at parties, but nothing to reveal this was a daily thing. No indication that they were high that night either. And Roid Rage? Maybe, but that is a symptom of long term heavy use and Millard quite frankly didn't have a body that indicated that.
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No, AM said that they were all into cocaine. I guess that's where LB fits in. There's no question these guys were daily users of stuff...who the hell has a pound of weed on hand when they are not growing? These guys were heavy partiers, and perhaps you don't understand what that means. After all this ends, I assure you it will come out that the whole crowd was awash in drugs.

Steroids won't help you build bulk if you don't do weights. They will keep you trim though. DM was into yoga and athletics. Without body building exercise, the only other effects of steroids on a man are testicular atrophy and/or gynecomastia (*advertiser censored*).

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Crimeinthe6ix said:
Sorry can you expand on this?
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From Susan Clairmont's article in the Spec:

The defence lawyers have had temporary offices on the sixth floor during the trial, so they mostly wait in there. Nadir Sachak, one of Millard's lawyers, has a new murder trial on Monday that he's preparing for.
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Sachak is representing a different client in a case that begins next week.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/6725389-clairmont-another-excruciating-wait-for-the-bosmas/
 
musicaljoke said:
I wish that she didn't have to make a victim impact statement. Surely it can be understood without SB having to say anything. Wouldn't just showing a photo of her husband holding their little girl be sufficient? Looking at that photo drives me to my knees. It presses deep furrows into my brow. Surely her grief and loss are beyond words.
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Staceys said:
Why do you wish that? The VIS is an option to the victims to take or not. SB no doubt will choose to address the convicted. She is a strong personality and I am sure she has been waiting to address them publicly for a long time. Her words to them will be impactful, haunting and likely leave an impression on these 2 that will continue to affect and haunt them during their sentence. She will find a way with her words to inflict pain that only she can. Not to be spiteful but to make them aware of what they have done and she will do it in a way they will never forget. All the power to her. This will be her chance for justice and a step toward closure and building her new life.
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Continuing on this topic, and thinking about the strength and courage of the Bosmas, and the topic of forgiveness that have been discussed here recently...If you have lost someone you know how deep and debilitating it can be. I know they have many support services and systems available, and Tim's Tributes, and other memorial foundations like it, is healing to the family and community and builds something positive out of something negative because otherwise, it's truly unfathomable. Its enjoying the small moments, like the Jenga pic, that are truly special.

VIS are, obviously, very personal and should be about healing and closure. When I think of the Bosma's strength, I'm reminded of the VIS delivered by Michelle Knight, "I will overcome this. From this moment on, I won't let this affect me". I believe a VIS that is spikeful, hateful and cutting is only serving the egos of the convicted, IMO, I I wouldn't be able to resist: the most impactful statement (I'm not suggesting this as possible or healthy) would be delivered by by Tim's daughter; you stole from me my father, and a lifetime of moments (naming them) and then reverse it on DM to say, you, too, will never have these things but that is your own doing.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-...knight-relatives-of-amanda-berry-gina-dejesus
 
musicaljoke said:
I wish that she didn't have to make a victim impact statement. Surely it can be understood without SB having to say anything. Wouldn't just showing a photo of her husband holding their little girl be sufficient? Looking at that photo drives me to my knees. It presses deep furrows into my brow. Surely her grief and loss are beyond words.
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I doubt she HAS to......I would think this would be her choice....and I can see her wanting to speak about the impact this had had on her and her family. MOO

ETA - I see this was addressed.....several times....sorry for the repeat....
 
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