Verdict is in! GUILTY of MURDER ONE - Hung Jury On Penalty Phase

[aa9511]

:bump: http://www.azcentral.com/video/2405490606001


Thanks, I appreciated being able to see the jurors finally. They don't look like cartoon characters after all.

Awwww...they do seem sweet. I'm surprised there are so many older ones!

 

[wasnt_me]

I really hope the family is staying far away from HLN today.
Unbelievable how badly they are turning on the family. Dr. Drew SCREAMING that they shut it down, put Jodi on a shelf and let it go. Basically just stop it. MY GOD. What their next step is, is an extremely personal decision, a very tough decision. He has no business getting on T.V. to scream and yell at victims that they need to do things like that. His keeps saying "put it on a shelf and go on" it makes me want to gag. They went through all of this, got plowed over with a terrible decision and you are screaming at them to "put it on a shelf somewhere and let it be". How wrong, MOO.

Then just minutes previous this "judge" comes on who has no proper information at all. Cringe worthy embarrassing improper information claiming it's going to take another 3 million dollars to finish this, that the Arizona people need to start talking about stopping this! This is a gift for an appeal if they get another jury, it will immediately be tossed out, waste of money. The family GOT their verdict, a life sentence, be happy. Um... sir...8 people stood their ground on sending her to death row. If it was majority rules she would be going to death row. SHUSH UP.

Selfish terrible people.

The only one was Nancy, at the end of her show she was calm, had complete compassion and in a voice near tears told the family to go home. Get out of here, get as far away from Jodi as possible, just like Travis was trying to do. Rest and regroup becuase it's not over yet. Basically telling them to keep hope, the fight is not over if that is what they want but to take care of themselves.

The family needs the most support ever right now, for whatever their decision is and here the news heads who still claim we need to think of the family (Dr. Drew Especially!) are turning their backs on what this family really needs. Compassion, understanding and kindness for whatever choices they make.

While I'm conflicted about the death penalty, I believe that Dr. Drew is the one who needs to put it on a shelf and let it go. The media needs to put it on a shelf and let it go. If I were in Travis' family, I'd say, "You first, Doc!"

 

[Linda7NJ]

I really hope the family is staying far away from HLN today.
Unbelievable how badly they are turning on the family. Dr. Drew SCREAMING that they shut it down, put Jodi on a shelf and let it go. Basically just stop it. MY GOD. What their next step is, is an extremely personal decision, a very tough decision. He has no business getting on T.V. to scream and yell at victims that they need to do things like that. His keeps saying "put it on a shelf and go on" it makes me want to gag. They went through all of this, got plowed over with a terrible decision and you are screaming at them to "put it on a shelf somewhere and let it be". How wrong, MOO.

Then just minutes previous this "judge" comes on who has no proper information at all. Cringe worthy embarrassing improper information claiming it's going to take another 3 million dollars to finish this, that the Arizona people need to start talking about stopping this! This is a gift for an appeal if they get another jury, it will immediately be tossed out, waste of money. The family GOT their verdict, a life sentence, be happy. Um... sir...8 people stood their ground on sending her to death row. If it was majority rules she would be going to death row. SHUSH UP.

Selfish terrible people.

The only one was Nancy, at the end of her show she was calm, had complete compassion and in a voice near tears told the family to go home. Get out of here, get as far away from Jodi as possible, just like Travis was trying to do. Rest and regroup becuase it's not over yet. Basically telling them to keep hope, the fight is not over if that is what they want but to take care of themselves.

The family needs the most support ever right now, for whatever their decision is and here the news heads who still claim we need to think of the family (Dr. Drew Especially!) are turning their backs on what this family really needs. Compassion, understanding and kindness for whatever choices they make.

I usually think Dr Drew is an idiot, I agree with what you posted he said above.
The justice system isn't about revenge. I understand the families desire for the DP and I wanted it for them because they did.
The best thing they could do now for themselves is to agree to a plea of LWOP. by doing so, they wouldn't be giving Jodi another minute of control or another opportunity to be seen and heard . she would no longer be in control over their lives. All IMO


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[JustJosie]

I hope if a new jury is appointed.. it is a fair and swift one.
Prayers to the victims

 

[Summerfun]

I believe Judge S was shocked and upset about the non verdict. She was choking back tears. I think she would give CM LWOP

I believe that also. Judge S saw her antics after the jury left the room and I don't believe she was blind to that.

And I am sure Judge S watched every ridiculous interview that the killer did.

I believe that Judge S did not like the killer.

And I believe if it was life, Judge S would have given her life without parole.

The judge was emotionally upset by the verdict, and the killer was emotionless.

How wrong is that?

 

[Litigatrix]

See, I don't get this. What 'bloodlust' are you aware of in juries' attitudes? Because the supposed 'bloodlust' of the world at large has no impact on deliberations. The comment makes juries and the world at large sound like mad dogs. Not rational, obviously.

And with all due respect, I believe it is relatively easy to escape death row. Just look at the stats. And what's happening with this monster.

I interned with the innocence project in law school. I have seen dozens of poor minorities with questionable convictions and/or mentally retarded men that confessed to crimes after coercion, that now sit or have sat on death row for crimes that it's pretty clear that they didn't commit...or in my case in particular, a black man that sat on death row for nearly two decades and evaded the needle TWICE only to be exonerated by DNA evidence for raping and murdering a woman that he had never even met.

In calling for his head the majority white community was inflamed, they were passionate, they were horrified, the state hated him...and they were wrong. Categorically, no wiggle room, no question...just wrong.

It does happen, and if there weren't people working on his behalf for nearly two decades then he would be dead. Had there been one person that was able to abate their passion and listen to logic, then perhaps he wouldn't have been in that position. We'll never know...but I think room for dissent is essential. That's why I don't hold the "hold outs' decision against them.

A different opinion about the necessity of putting someone to death doesn't mean that the person holding the opinion is wrong...and I say this as someone who is willing to bend my death penalty opposition for JA(because she is vile.)

 

[SevenSeas]

Hubby and I saw the clip of ponytail leaving in front of the media gauntlet earlier.

Our thought was... maybe he wanted to be loud and proud about his vote, unashamed, but at the same time wanted to make a silent statement against those who voted opposite him?

Almost like, I'm not one of the ones you should be angry with?


I did the right thing.

 

[Just Sailing Thru]

That should start her out unusually high in the pecking order.

If she avoids the needle they'll be in awe -- at first anyway.

No NO NO... In Perryville protective custody May be a safe haven for the arrogant one..General pop???? Good luck with that book club...:jail::floorlaugh:

 

[Hatfield]

This decision was so hard to understand.
They spent 5 months on this trial.
And they give up after 13 hours, wow, mind boggling.

If you cannot agree give her life,
wash your hands, and let the judge
decide her sentence.

Very easy.

But why was it so hard for this jury?

I am shocked and appalled that there is no justice for
the Alexander family.

I really cannot see their victim statements again.
It was so heart wrenching.

Please give this family some prayers, they are such innocent
victims.

Agree. This is exactly why I am so upset. They had to know they were 8-4, so at that point, they needed to realize that by not trying to come to a concensus they are going to force this family into having to wait and suffer many more days and months with no resolution.

It is not fair and not just. If I was one of the 8, I would have tried to convince everyone to keep trying and not settle for what they did. Then after about 4 more days of trying, if still same , then I would have tried to convince everyone to agree on either DP or LIFE then.

A decision needed to be made. That was the job. It was not done. They were most equipped to make that decision.

A new jury is not going to be as equipped as they were.

 

[aa9511]

It just occurred to me that the earlier juror question that we only saw the judge asking both sides if they objected to the answer - likely it was about their impasse, no wonder everyone looked either resigned or unhappy. I saw Willmott making gestures to JA afterwards like she was moving her hand down a list with three items...

Yes, that's what I thought when that happened. Also b/c it was sealed, I knew something was up. I think taht was the point that the jury came back and said, judge we still can't agree, then the judge gave them a second Allen-whatever in writing. I could tell Nurmi by his voice and the way he said it that he was pleased.

Then finally I guess jury came back a third time, and judge then agreed to their verdict.

 

[anagrammy]

I'm sorry but wth is up with her left foot?? Does she have wonky toes to match her wonky finger?

That should be her two small ones right? I keep trying to lift those two without the others and I cannot.

If so, Travis did it.

 

[neesaki]

My husband and I both were surprised because we already knew.....There was at least one on that jury that didn't believe in the DP. Is there any way that the family can now move on with their case and at least get a stop to any sales by the devilwoman?

I'm really behind on this thread, so I'm sure I've missed something. But this really concerns me. What I don't understand, is that this was a death qualified jury. If the one didn't believe in the DP, why wasn't she kicked off and replaced with an alternate. I mean, isn't it perjury when she claimed that she could vote for the death penalty, when she knew she didn't believe in it?

 

[aa9511]

Dr Drew has me so upset and furious - I used to like him - but now I HATE THAT MAN !!!!! And he got ALL of his guests to join in and shout down poor Abe who was trying to make his point about the Jury not being honest on the questionnaire. There absolutely was a "plant" in that jury.

To see that idiot and Jenny and even Mark basically YELL at this poor friend of Travis was way way too much for me. I cannot bear it.
Get Dr Drew OFF of HLN ! !

AGREED!!! I just sent his show an e-mail yesterday, which I don't know if they'll read or not. I AM SO SICK OF HIM. He is not compassionate at all...he has no compassion for Travis' family. He just says it once in a while 'cause he feels like he has to.

 

[katiedid2]

I think the defense will use BPD in the retrial and Juan will be powerless to rebut it because it was his theory in the first place.

It's basically over. There will be a settlement. The prosecution gave it their best shot, and that's all they can do. MOO.

I disagree that it's over! I think the next jury will get it right.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I refuse to play a blame game when it comes to the jurors, they did their part, and now they deserve a break, some peace, and time with their families. Who knows how much healing they will need after going through all this trying to do the right thing in their eyes. I would be willing to bet dimes to donuts the Alexander family is not trashing them, and I don't feel we have as much at stake as they did. They did their job, let them have peace. JMHO!

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

Nope. If you mean life vs death more wanted death than life. She didn't control those 8. And those 8 wouldn't budge. They saw through her and didn't buy the bs. and they all did convict her of murder 1. So no...no jury controlling. If she controlled enough of them she wouldn't have gotten murder 1 in the first place and 8 wouldn't be wanting her on DR.

I didn't know it was 8 to 4 until you just told me. Unbelievable IMO.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Reality check for Jodi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJTBLd-72fg&feature=youtu.be

 

[Linda7NJ]

katydid: I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. About two years ago I was sitting on my sofa talking on the phone with a friend who lives about 100 miles south of here. My sofa suddenly started to vibrate. I had never experienced an earthquake before - they're very rare here - and could not figure out what what going on. The only conclusion I could come to in my mind was that there must be a very large truck outside on the street with its motor running.

I mentioned to my friend that this weird thing was taking place, that my sofa was vibrating. She said "Oh, wow, I feel a vibration too!" Then she glanced at her TV set and saw an earthquake notice! The center of it was down in Virginia, several hundred miles south of here!

Re: Whether this will be retried or not.

Since 2002 five Death Penalty cases have been retried at this stage. So why would anyone even think it would not be done in this case? The cost didn't seem to be a factor then, so why should it be now?

Re: Jude Larry on HLM
This guy is such a clown. He never seems to know the facts of a case. And he never seems to know the law!

That one I felt in NJ! I too was sitting on the sofa. My mother was visiting and we were chatting.... Sofa vibrates... I thought my son was hiding behind it and shaking it or something.! When I realized it wasn't him, I got scared!


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[anagrammy]

Over on my exmormon board, one of the posters suggested that because of the trial being allowed to go on so long, fatigue and mental strain were at work. Furthermore, under such stressful conditions, a Stockholm Syndrome can develop where the jury and the criminal begin to identify.

When you stop to think about it, this jury was held in a separate padded room for extended periods of time never knowing how long they would be in there, or why, or when they would be allowed out. Certainly they bonded with each other, but as much as I hate to say it, the defense strategy of pushing this judge to allow Jodi Arias to testify for a month worked.

Fortunately, we get a do-over with a fresh bunch. Did anyone confirm if a new judge comes with the new deal?

 

[Garlandy]

I believe that also. Judge S saw her antics after the jury left the room and I don't believe she was blind to that.

And I am sure Judge S watched every ridiculous interview that the killer did.

I believe that Judge S did not like the killer.

And I believe if it was life, Judge S would have given her life without parole.

The judge was emotionally upset by the verdict, and the killer was emotionless.

How wrong is that?

I think JSS really wanted a verdict and just by human nature seeing that she was given this case to preside over .. she may feel a little responsible there was no verdict for the final phase ...if I was the judge I might feel a little like that.