Verdict Watch Discussion Thread

[DMB]

Actually, I had people disagreeing with me on here that it was given back to Isho.

I do believe he buried it however, I also believe his story of not remembering where has to do with BIG Iisho. No way Iisho would touch or go near any of them knowing what was going on and all the media attention. Probably warned DM/MS to stay away. If there were any text's or convo's we'll be hearing about them eventually. We also forget that there is video evidence available from MS's stay at MM's sisters apartment that has probably been gone over extensively. With phone records and video evidence they may or may not be able to tell us when he snuck out to do this but when he did not.

 

[mozzagirl]

I guess I'm the dumbo. I've read the article twice.

Where is the gun, and what is there that indicates it's not buried?

AC's article references texts between DM and Isho in which DM says something to the effect of when he "returns" the gun it'll be a "dirty" gun. MS was in contact with Isho after DM's arrest. So most likely the gun made its way back to Isho and isn't buried.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/tim-bosma-trial-what-the-jury-didnt-hear-1.3631268

 

[Claroon]

Exactly! It puts MS contacting MWJ after the murder into context.

MOO

And I predict it was MWJ's n'gers MS was talking about coming after him--should he not return the gun as requested. IMO

 

[canadiangirl]

I do believe he buried it however, I also believe his story of not remembering where has to do with BIG Iisho. No way Iisho would touch or go near any of them knowing what was going on and all the media attention. Probably warned DM/MS to stay away. If there were any text's or convo's we'll be hearing about them eventually. We also forget that there is video evidence available from MS's stay at MM's sisters apartment that has probably been gone over extensively. With phone records and video evidence they may or may not be able to tell us when he snuck out to do this but when he did not.

Oh I think he possibly buried it. But told (or got someone to) tell big iisho where to find it later. As we heard in text, MJW could "change her print" even if it came back dirty....

 

[JuneBug67]

I think some would be surprised just how many people do not follow the news or watch much TV. Especially with so many other technical distractions. I can bet that out of the 20 guys who work on my plant less then half have heard of this case half of those scarcely know any details other then a guy and his truck went missing. Mist people may hear tidbits of the news but how many follow up on it all. JMO

Yeah, I think I may be projecting the way I follow news and this case. I think you're right that many just are not focused on these things in the same way. Might be an interesting question to ask a journo...if jurors were excused if they knew of the other charges.

 

[flipflop]

And I predict it was MWJ's n'gers MS was talking about coming after him--should he not return the gun as requested. IMO

Exactly!!!!

 

[MrsThreadgoode]

Six o clock news report on TV. On CHCH maybe it will be repeated at 11 tonight.

I think this might be it ...

http://www.chch.com/deliberation-begins-tim-bosma-trial/


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[canadiangirl]

And I predict it was MWJ's n'gers MS was talking about coming after him--should he not return the gun as requested. IMO

Definitely not the "victim's friends" as people wanted to believe.

 

[JuneBug67]

Oh I think he possibly buried it. But told big iisho where to find it later. As we heard in text, he could "change her print" even if it came back dirty....

Speaking of which, it struck me a while ago that Dellen Millard actually told somebody he intended to murder somebody. Kind of makes telling people you were going to steal a truck pale in comparison. Something so wrong with that boy.

 

[MrsThreadgoode]

Pls post. I could not find this. It's fascinating.

I think this might be it ...

http://www.chch.com/deliberation-begins-tim-bosma-trial/

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[NoodlesMcgee]

Exactly!!!!

Why was he trying to sell it to 'bleach' If he was so worried about it going back to Isho?

A darker thought, perhaps it could be tied to other murders?

 

[Oreck]

If anyone knows can you answer a couple of questions.
Is the jury alone in the jury room?
Is there any recording done of what is said?
Are the votes by way of secret ballot?
Thnks.

 

[DMB]

According to De Boer's testimony, he didn't hear the phone. But he heard Bosma's phone, and he heard the voices coming up the driveway.
by Adam Carter 8:31 PM

Did you mean to say He didn't hear the phone but he heard Bosma's voice??

 

[Claroon]

They are going to need 2 days and an arborist to figure out all those trees before they can even start to deliberate!!!

Yeah that was really (forgive my language) F'd up.

 

[LeighW]

I must ask my parents as well. They moved to Etobicoke right around Sherway Gardens back in the early 60s and never left the same home. I'm sure my folks have never heard of them either.

If you'd ever driven along Derry Rd just west of Airport road, you wouldn't have been able to miss the Millardair hangars at the north end of the airport. Mind you, there wasn't much going on there, even in the 80s, just a few old or derelict airplanes.They've all gone now, of course. The hangars were mostly empty but there were some offices and workshops rented out to other companies on the upper level. I had some dealings with one of the tenants and would walk past Carl Millard's office on my way there where he would be sitting behind a big wooden desk.

There were a few old DC4s, some Beech 18s and I believe Millard himself had a Citation jet for his own use, but there never seemed to be much actual business going on. The way it has been referred to as a "dynasty" seems a bit far fetched to me.I think the real business was mostly all done before that time.

 

[Tealgrove]

If you'd ever driven along Derry Rd just east of Airport road, you wouldn't have been able to miss the Millardair hangars at the north end of the airport. Mind you, there wasn't much going on there, even in the 80s, just a few old or derelict airplanes.They've all gone now, of course. The hangars were mostly empty but there were some offices and workshops rented out to other companies on the upper level. I had some dealings with one of the tenants and would walk past Carl Millard's office on my way there where he would be sitting behind a big wooden desk.

There were a few old DC4s, some Beech 18s and I believe Millard himself had a Citation jet for his own use, but there never seemed to be much actual business going on. The way it has been referred to as a "dynasty" seems a bit far fetched to me.I think the real business was mostly all done before that time.

I grew up in Etobicoke and knew of MillardAir. I can see the hangar now.

 

[brightii]

O/T. Just to clarify, Polkaroo is the character from TVO's long-running TV show, The Polkadot Door. Romper Room had a female host Ms. Nancy who used a "Magic Mirror" to speak to the kids from TV land, lol, and the late great Ernie Coombs was the main character "Mr. Dress-Up" and host of the popular and long-running CBC TV show of the same name.

All MOO.

 

[canadiangirl]

Why was he trying to sell it to 'bleach' If he was so worried about it going back to Isho?

A darker thought, perhaps it could be tied to other murders?

Good point. Unless they were all intertwined somehow because "bleach" isn't a common name like Steve lol

If it was tied to other murders it would be best to go back to isho. He could clean it right up. Moo

 

[hellkat2]

Nice to know that murderers have more rights than victims. 2 guns. One for each of them. How nice.

Yes....I thought all along that there was two.

 

[DMB]

Speaking of which, it struck me a while ago that Dellen Millard actually told somebody he intended to murder somebody. Kind of makes telling people you were going to steal a truck pale in comparison. Something so wrong with that boy.

Ok, I'm really freaking out here. How is it that all these people have all this negative info on DM and the jury is not allowed to hear any of it as could tarnish his character which is not on trial???? Sorry, all of this and all the people DM associated with make MS look like a choir boy in comparison! Big Iisho, that is what a gangster looks and acts like.