VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Break 2/27 thru 3/2 #2

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Which date? She hadn't been in AZ since he had the new camera and the camera make and model is in the EXIF data, so it would have easily been detected they weren't taken with his new camera.

Yes, the EXIF data would include all of the camera information but the thumbnails do not include EXIF data, they are one of the files in the EXIF data. The dates I mentioned were for the 90 or so other pictures Melendez found on the memory card, which no info has been revealed afaik.
 
That's right. TA had a Sony camera with a Sony SD card. These memory cards ONLY work on Sony cameras and are a different size that regular SD cards. IMO, there is no way JA "switched" the cards. She was trying to make sure she left no trace of her ever being there, not leave pics behind.
Besides, didn't TA purchase his Sony camera AFTER JA moved back to Yreka?

Travis' roommate Zach also had a Sony camera, presumably with Sony memory cards (which is why Travis bought one) and it was mysteriously found shortly before JA left Mesa in Travis' BMW (according to Travis' own journal).
 
After some digging on BK site this is all I got:

#15 is an assistant to a Kindergarten teacher
#16 is a trauma nurse, and treats victims of crime.
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#9 was excused on Day 2 of trial, her sister in-law was a friend and went to school with JA
I also believe she is the one that went up to BK and asked if she NG.

Thanks so much for that info! I think it's also been reported that #1 has a degree in psychology? As to the others, I recall hearing one wore the same shirt everyday, one guy wore cowboy attire.... just wish we knew more...
 
My impression of what geevee is trying to say is is it possible that TA used an older memory stick in his new camera, kept the ones he wanted then deleted the ones he no longer wanted....ie nude pics of JA... and that's why those pics were found in the unallocated space, different from deleted and it was only assumed that they were taken/deleted that day. That would make sense to me but hey... I know nothing about cameras but thanks to all the WS's this old brain is learning something new everyday that I lurk on this awesome webpage! JA then would have only deleted the pics she herself took on 6/04/08 and to me explains her comment to Det. Flores something to to the effect of...are you sure those pic/nudes aren't from different memory stick. geevee if my impression is wrong feel free in correcting me as I find all the posts are very thought provoking.

All of the deleted pics but two #168 and #169 had the EXIF data.
 
Yes happened in Texas very recently near where I lived at that time. I was fascinated by that case.

Yep....in Kaufman County...one mile from where I live. Heartbreaking and senseless murder.
 
With all due respect to you and the Alexanders. I'm not judging their hearts, they have stood in court and relaid what they are going thru and what they want is the DP. So, I'm not trying to read their minds or judge them. They still till last week showed how they are effected in court.
Yes they have had to endure a horrible trial and hear horrible things about their brother. They have already received a form of justice. JA was convicted and won't ever be free.

You can't really compare our loss completely to the Alexanders. Our family didn't receive justice in any way shape or form. The hospital didn't do a blood alcohol test on the man that hit them. The stop sign was removed from the site of the wreck. It was there the night of the accident but gone the next morning when the investigator arrived at the scene. Someone was looking out for this guy. My Niece was put on life support for a few weeks until my sister was able to be put in a wheel chair so she could hold her little girl one last time. She endured a different kind of suffering. She had to have brain surgery, her ears had to be sewn back on, her top lip had to be sewn back on, her forehead looked like a road-map. I didn't recognize my own sister the next morning after the accident. It took years of plastic surgery for her to even look like herself. Yes, she suffered for years without even a chance for justice.
I'm glad for the Alexanders opportunity for justice. It was a cruel unwarranted murder. My point and opinion is/was they have said themselves how they feel, I wasn't judging them. They have heavy hearts, no doubt about it. You can't move forward unless you come to terms that your life has to go forward no matter what the circumstances are. Everyone is human, bottom line, most want agree or like it but the road to recovery is to forgive. I guess I can't explain it, you would have to be in that position or a similar place to understand. Some people can't do it and I am so thankful for my sisters faith and strength and her ability to find that forgiveness. Without her ability to release that hate, revenge and the feelings she went through she would have been left a hard, hateful women. My sister is now the opposite, she was given a gift by forgiving, she was blessed with 2 more children, and now has 6 wonderful grandchildren, and most of all she has a forgiving heart. I hope the Alexanders can find the same peace. JMOO.

I disagree in that I think you can move on in life without having to forgive someone who has done something so heinous to a family.
 
My impression of what geevee is trying to say is is it possible that TA used an older memory stick in his new camera, kept the ones he wanted then deleted the ones he no longer wanted....ie nude pics of JA... and that's why those pics were found in the unallocated space, different from deleted and it was only assumed that they were taken/deleted that day. That would make sense to me but hey... I know nothing about cameras but thanks to all the WS's this old brain is learning something new everyday that I lurk on this awesome webpage! JA then would have only deleted the pics she herself took on 6/04/08 and to me explains her comment to Det. Flores something to to the effect of...are you sure those pic/nudes aren't from different memory stick. geevee if my impression is wrong feel free in correcting me as I find all the posts are very thought provoking.

Thanks fanofws (and a belated welcome!), you're pretty close although I think JA took those nudes using roommate Zach's camera, took the memory card and left his camera in Travis' BMW. JA brought that stick with her on June 4th and put it in Travis' new camera and took the shower pics (possibly thinking she would take the memory card with her, maybe she tried to put it in her camera, it didn't fit so she tossed it in the washer with the camera, it was found separately from the camera in the washer). At some point the nudes were deleted off the memory card before any other photos were saved to it, which is why the thumbnails were located in the unallocated space of the card.

I have to go sew now, see ya's later.
 
That may be your opinion, and mine is that some things are unforgivable. One can move on without forgiving.

I feel the same way. I never forgave my uncle for molesting me and it didn't stop me from getting married and having a child of my own. My hatred towards my uncle was specific towards him and didn't paralyze me from living my life. I wasn't consumed with hate and feelings of revenge. I've been able to air them just fine without ever forgiving him.
 
My impression of what geevee is trying to say is is it possible that TA used an older memory stick in his new camera, kept the ones he wanted then deleted the ones he no longer wanted....ie nude pics of JA... and that's why those pics were found in the unallocated space, different from deleted and it was only assumed that they were taken/deleted that day. That would make sense to me but hey... I know nothing about cameras but thanks to all the WS's this old brain is learning something new everyday that I lurk on this awesome webpage! JA then would have only deleted the pics she herself took on 6/04/08 and to me explains her comment to Det. Flores something to to the effect of...are you sure those pic/nudes aren't from different memory stick. geevee if my impression is wrong feel free in correcting me as I find all the posts are very thought provoking.

The EXIF data is extracted from the camera, not the memory card. Again, I cannot stress enough that Sony has their own propriety memory cards that cannot be interchanged from camera - camera, unless it is another Sony camera.
 
I have moved on without forgiving. I had to develop a feeling of indifference toward the perps and the situation. If I ever saw those people again I am sure it would trigger PTSD but my life is so far removed from them and the situation that I have been symptom free for several years now. I never think seriously about it or them--only a reference here and there, like now. I have not forgotten and never will but it does not dictate the course of my life anymore.

Whether TA's family ever forgives the killer or not is their call, no one else's. It is wonderful that people care and are concerned about them but I think that in time they will be just fine. They will never forget. They may never forgive. But they will certainly move on and begin to smile more when they remember Travis because they will more easily tune in to how he lived rather than how he died.
BBM. I totally agree and wish people would stop saying the Death Penalty isn't good for Alexander's. It's what they want, and I think they know what's best for them better than people who don't know them. I totally support the Alexander's wanting the Death Penalty and not having to forgive. It's their right!!!
 
Does anyone know (verified with a source) exactly what date Travis caught her hacking into his Facebook account? Was it May 22?
 
With all due respect to you and the Alexanders. I'm not judging their hearts, they have stood in court and relaid what they are going thru and what they want is the DP. So, I'm not trying to read their minds or judge them. They still till last week showed how they are effected in court.
Yes they have had to endure a horrible trial and hear horrible things about their brother. They have already received a form of justice. JA was convicted and won't ever be free.

You can't really compare our loss completely to the Alexanders. Our family didn't receive justice in any way shape or form. The hospital didn't do a blood alcohol test on the man that hit them. The stop sign was removed from the site of the wreck. It was there the night of the accident but gone the next morning when the investigator arrived at the scene. Someone was looking out for this guy. My Niece was put on life support for a few weeks until my sister was able to be put in a wheel chair so she could hold her little girl one last time. She endured a different kind of suffering. She had to have brain surgery, her ears had to be sewn back on, her top lip had to be sewn back on, her forehead looked like a road-map. I didn't recognize my own sister the next morning after the accident. It took years of plastic surgery for her to even look like herself. Yes, she suffered for years without even a chance for justice.
I'm glad for the Alexanders opportunity for justice. It was a cruel unwarranted murder. My point and opinion is/was they have said themselves how they feel, I wasn't judging them. They have heavy hearts, no doubt about it. You can't move forward unless you come to terms that your life has to go forward no matter what the circumstances are. Everyone is human, bottom line, most want agree or like it but the road to recovery is to forgive. I guess I can't explain it, you would have to be in that position or a similar place to understand. Some people can't do it and I am so thankful for my sisters faith and strength and her ability to find that forgiveness. Without her ability to release that hate, revenge and the feelings she went through she would have been left a hard, hateful women. My sister is now the opposite, she was given a gift by forgiving, she was blessed with 2 more children, and now has 6 wonderful grandchildren, and most of all she has a forgiving heart. I hope the Alexanders can find the same peace. JMOO.

BBM
That is so good to hear. I was really hoping that she went on to have more family. Nothing could ever replace her beloved 2 yr old that passed, but it does warm my heart to know that she did have the chance to raise children and do so in her daughter's memory. My cousin lost her first child, as a toddler, in a tragic accident on their farm. It took her 10 years to move forward enough to have more children. But it seemed to me that her new family really helped her to heal. She had the chance to do the things that she grieved she would never see, like first day of school, etc.

I do think the Alexander family is fully ready ot move forward and to heal. It is just sad that this damned trial has dragged on for so long and been so nasty and low.
 
My thing is even when she was arrested the one thing she cared about was her "reputation". Jodi Arias, who was on the lookout for another husband, who already had Ryan Burns in her sights (another Mormon) would not have wanted nude pictures of her and Travis made public. Not because they would shame him, but because they'd taint HER reputation. (Travis always deleted all the nudes she send him or that they took (Det Flores said something to this effect during interrogation) so there wouldn't have been any other pics.)

IMO.

And yet her purpose for having those photos on the camera may have been for Mimi to see them.
 
Do we know for sure that Jodi Ann Arias drew that Snow White doodle?
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I don't think so.
 
Do we know for sure that Jodi Ann Arias drew that Snow White doodle?
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I don't think so.

Interesting find DD. The doodle has upper case letters, but the date appears to be her handwriting. The "A"s aren't the same either.
 
This is how JA really draws. The rest of her stuff is just tracing.

I'm no expert, but it's not her "hand" and the signature is completely different. She has a very deliberate quality of line, and this doodle does not look like her work or her writing to me. What is its provenance anyway?
 
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