Victim: Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, missing July 2007, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *POI Rex Heuermann*

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maybe al the *advertiser censored* guy is LISK? he does like calling ppl......

Meltruth defines her sister as working at the Hotel only, Sara K’s testimony shows she works outside the hotel, mainly in Manhattan area and deliberately avoiding certain locations.

Maureen has a court hearing on Tuesday 10th, 2007. She may lose her home and custody of her son (COURT HEARING).

July 6, 2007, Friday
Maureen, Sara K and two friends (male) arrive in NYC. They work. Maureen makes an appointment for Tuesday with a realtor for renting a place. (REALTOR APPOINTMENT)

NOTE: REALTOR APPOINTMENT somewhat contradicts with COURT HEARING, not possible to say it for sure as the exact times are not indicated or without knowing what was in Maureen's mind.

8 July 2007, Sunday (evening, night)
Maureen has 700 dollars, still short 400 for her target of 1100.
Maureen and Sara K meet a guy with DREADLOCK hair, outside the hotel as they are smoking. The man looks to be in the business and he learns from Sara K that they are pimpless girls.


9 July 2007
Reinterpreted quote from Lost Girls

The original plan is to go back to CT and get back to NY at a later time (Wed). In line with COURT HEARING

Maureen decides to extend her stay one more night and probably planning to be back in CT early Tuesday and make a wire payment.
11:30 AM, Sara K and two boys depart
12:30 PM, Maureen calls Sara K as they are travelling, but Sara K doesn’t get the call.

From that point on, there’s no clear indication anywhere whether or not Maureen has her cell phone with her.

*advertiser censored* GUY AL’S CALL:
Back in Connecticut that night, Sara got a call from Al
*advertiser censored* GUY AL: You hear from Maureen? (1)
SARA K: No.
*advertiser censored* GUY AL: She called me. (2)
SARA K: Why?
*advertiser censored* GUY AL: Cause she couldn’t get ahold of you. She got robbed. She said that guy, you guys met last night—the guy with the dreads—robbed her for five grand.

Sara hung up and called Maureen’s phone. No answer. She left a voice mail: “I heard what happened. You need to call me back.”

ANALYSIS:
Possible explanation is Maureen lost her cell phone sometime after 12:30 PM.

Otherwise; 1 and 2 seems contradicting. If Maureen already called Al and they are in contact, why is he wondering she got in contact with Sara? A possible explanation can be; Maureen calls Al a while ago to report the robbery, Al tries to get back to Maureen later but he can't, so he calls Sara K. If that is the case, Al’s phone records must show incoming call from Maureen (from her cell or from another number perhaps). If not, then he must explain how he knows Maureen is robbed. Or better put, *advertiser censored* Guy Al is worried about Maureen? Or is he trying to locate Maureen?



9 July 2007, 23:30 PM
Maureen calls Missy Cann.


Reinterpreted quote from Lost Girls
On the phone, Maureen kept things light. She didn’t say anything about getting robbed or being in trouble, or how she had to be in court the next day, or that she needed cash or she’d be out on the street. She said she was calling from Penn Station. Still no clear indication whether Maureen has her cell phone with her.

MAUREEN: Can Chris come pick me up?
MISSY CANN: Maureen, it’s eleven-thirty. Chris has to work in the morning.
MAUREEN: I’ll call Will.

Maureen calls Will (brother) but he declines her request too. Missy’s phone rings again.

MAUREEN: I have enough money to take the train and I will take the next one.


ROBBERY and MAUREEN’S PHONE

Meltruth: #37
Maureen did not use cocaine. She did get robbed and it is was not a bad drug deal go wrong.

Mountain_Kat: #45
I'm a bit confused. I was under the impression that Maureen got that money back. Is that not correct?

Meltruth: #48
Montain Kat you are right she did get the money back.

Meltruth: #130
She was robbed earlier way earlier in the day. I don't believe the robbery has anything to do with her going missing and being murdered. The missing person investigated that claim early on in her missing persons case.

ANALYSIS
Maureen goes to Penn Station, she will go to CT. She can just get on the train and be on the way home, but she calls Missy and asks if Chris can come and take her, similarly asks the same favor from her brother. For somebody whose only purpose is to go home that is a bit cumbersome. Then she says she will take the next train. She indicates no intention to work further. Did Maureen take her money back?

MAUREEN: I have enough money to take the train.

Supposedly she got her money back. In that case the word “enough” is curious. Remember, she has at least 700 (perhaps more), so someone with that much cash wouldn’t use the word “enough”, as a matter of fact, someone with that much cash wouldn’t even bother to refer money. If Maureen had plenty of cash in her purse I would expect her saying something like.

MAUREEN: OK, I’ll take the next train.

ANALYSIS
The story that the robber giving Maureen her money back doesn’t look plausible and can not be verified. Who says she got her money back? And still, we don’t know for sure if Maureen has her cell phone. Though Missy Cann holds the answer to the latter.

Excerpt from Lost Girls.
“I [Missy Cann] called Boost [Mobile] customer service..... I said my sister’s missing, I need these phone records... And he e-mailed me her phone records and the password to her Boost mobile phone line.”

10 July 2007, Tuesday: Maureen doesn’t show up at eviction hearing. Her stuff is disposed at her apartment. Maureen doesn’t show up at the realtor appointment as well.

MAUREEN’S PHONE
Meltruth: #93
Maureen did not have a computer. Maureen only had one cell phone. The first few times I called her it would ring and ring than go to voice mail where we could leave messages. Within a week her voice-mail got filled up by us calling and leaving messages. Than it would ring and than say voice mail is full good bye. Than shortly after that it got turned off and it would not ring.

ANALYSIS
I believe Maureen’s phone is ON and dumped somewhere (somewhere in Gilgo Beach, probably with her body) I also believe her phone was ON all the time and its movements from tower to tower will clearly show the path the killer took that night.

There was a misunderstanding in the forum Meltruth cleared that, Maureen’s phone was used sometime in 2008?

Meltruth: #94
Sorry for the confusing. The family was told in 2008 that the phone was used. But it was a few weeks after she went missing is when it was used.

She clears the misunderstanding about 2008, but still is it a verified fact that the phone was used a few weeks after her disappearance? I believe there’s still a misunderstanding about it.


A few days later Missy and Will try to report their sister missing, Norwich police does not get the missing person report.

Missy also knows Maureen’s passwords to her online accounts. She gets in contact with NYPD, with what she has in her hand. NYPD gets the case, about a month after that.

Looking at the incoming mails NYPD notices a police officer's email. NYPD makes a wise decision to weed out a possible rotten egg and takes the case seriously, with steps necessary to verify the police officer’s alibi and investigate the missing person case.

In 2007, around late August, two NYPD detectives ask Missy Cann if her sister has ever been to Long Island.

Maureen's phone pings with a cell tower in Fire Island (that is probably the last location phone registers before battery dies), cops take a cadaver search briefly in the location.

I don’t have much info on GSM technologies but is it possible that the phone on Gilgo Beach (if it is there) can register with a tower on Fire Island (Ocean Beach)?

I believe Maureen was robbed and let go for some reason. Then the robber decided it may not be good for his well being, he found Maureen, approached her with an apologetic manner and lured her into his ground.


AFTER THE DISAPPEARANCE
Meltruth: #113
After it seem the Norwich Police department was not going to take Maureen missing person seriously I contacted NYC. I believe his name was Sgt. Duke. Because when Duke found out a police officer contacted her that weekend the Internal affairs officers step in and took over her case. Their names where detective Gearson and Detective Shaw. They were very upset about the case and how the Norwich Police treated this case when they came up to take DNA form us in the summer before Maureen was found.


Maureen’s DNA could only be entered in the database (CODIS) in August 2010. It took two and a half years to put her picture on Namus despite Norwich police was given a fully completed submission from Missy Cann, including her DNA and photo.

Maureen was found on 13 December 2010, identified on Jan 24th 2011
 
I have a question.

Does anyone know the date, when Maureen's body was first identified, after she was found on gilgo beach (dec 2010).

(When was it known (date), that Maureen was one of those girls found on gilgo beach in Dec 2010?)
 
Maureen was found on 13 December 2010, identified on Jan 24th 2011.

Is this the truth?
I only ask because I found something.
I will post about it when I make sure it is congruent.
 
Maureen was found on 13 December 2010, identified on Jan 24th 2011.

Is this the truth?
I only ask because I found something.
I will post about it when I make sure it is congruent.
It could be true. Go to post #47 page 4 on this thread. As Of Jan 20th 2011, the family was still waiting for the DNA results.
 
Maureen was found on 13 December 2010, identified on Jan 24th 2011.

Is this the truth?
I only ask because I found something.
I will post about it when I make sure it is congruent.
I think the bodies were found 12/11/10. Here is an article dated Jan 24, 2011 that names them. It says Megan was identified the week prior. The other three, including Maureen must have been identified on this date or a day or so prior to this article I think. http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/24/new.york.bodies.identified/index.html
 
Per Al DeMeo (son of Roy) JG loved kinky *advertiser censored* and sex toys, and he fled NY to avoid prosecution. Does anyone really know when and where JG died? And, do you think he was related to Big Al??

I just read murder machine and al demeos book which sheds alot of light on who controls NYC prostitution rings and how they go about illegally trafficking and exploiting these women. Als book gets into great detail about all the x rated stuff and prostitution happening at 42nd street. Al claims he would go to each escort service and pickup money for roy. Even though that was some years ago, as a local nyer, theres just no doubt that these prostitution rings are owned by the mafia today. Al also talks about seeing a guy named Tony at these 42nd street pickups. Could this be the same tony that knew maureen well enough to call sara karnes right after she was robbed and vanished? I personally think big al and tony set maureen up to be robbed because she and sara were foolish enough to claim they didnt need a pimp and would work for themselves. As far as Joe G or dracula as they called him at the gemini, in als book, it says that roy and albert dropped joe g off at the airport where he left for roy and joes hideout in the bahamas. That happened in 1981 or 1982, so maybe joe g died alone in the bahamas.
 
James burkes lucchese mafia connection and history with prostitution, mafia run prostitution/human trafficking in NYC.. this whole thing is highly organized with layers upon layers of insulation.. bisset and the other guy from the aquarium who mysteriously suicided. Gb4 deciding to work on clearly organized turf on their own terms. With burkes cover up and his refusal of the fbis help, These killings look more and more like business decisions rather then the work of some lone nut serial killer. Imo

For out of towners not familiar with organized crime and the mob, they really are that ruthless to kill for business. Theres no deep psychological answer as to why they kill, to them its just business.
 
James burkes lucchese mafia connection and history with prostitution, mafia run prostitution/human trafficking in NYC.. this whole thing is highly organized with layers upon layers of insulation.. bisset and the other guy from the aquarium who mysteriously suicided. Gb4 deciding to work on clearly organized turf on their own terms. With burkes cover up and his refusal of the fbis help, These killings look more and more like business decisions rather then the work of some lone nut serial killer. Imo

For out of towners not familiar with organized crime and the mob, they really are that ruthless to kill for business. Theres no deep psychological answer as to why they kill, to them its just business.

I hope the FBI has the guts to crack this case.
 
I found this on utopiaguide. Not sure if it is Maureen but who knows. Reading anything on that site makes me want to vomit. I can't read that nasty stuff too long. Omg those men are pigs who disgust me.
I thought it was weird this guy's name was ccicatrix. Reminded me of the username humiliatrix, that was used on the longislanderotic site, threatening amber longstreet costello.

http://utopiaguide.com/forums/threads/review-of-ct-cutie-marie-on-ny-cl.23873/


 
Hold the Phone....

I just consulted the book Lost Girls, Maureen did not call her sister from Port Authority. Maureen called her from Penn Station at 11:30 P.M. to ask for a ride. This makes sense but she would have been taking Amtrak from there and not Metro North.

Amtrak services New London, Hartford, Wallingford, and Mystic from NYC. Wasn't Maureen from Groton/New London? If so, that would make sense for her and not Metro North which serves different parts of CT and is the one I take when visiting family. Also a ticket is around 95 to 120 dollars, more if its the Acela. The last train running to New London as of today is at 10:30 P.M. She called her sister at 11:30, if the schedules are similar today, it would have been to late for her to take Amtrak at all, but not to late to take Metro North which would bring her to Bridgeport, a bit far from New London.

Maybe it was too late for her to take a train and she decided to kill some time until the morning by working and making a little more money. She had already checked out, so unless she checked into another hotel for the night, spending MORE money when she was already short.... Maybe in an effort to make money to avoid eviction and to kill time she went against her normal routine and did an outcall, something she never did. And the very thing type of call that fits the SK and the G4.

This may get covered, haven't made it all the way the through the thread yet, buuuuut, Penn Station services CT and is the ONLY LIRR hub in Manhattan.


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Lol well excuse me for being curious! You said "I appreciate anyone's input". Apparently not!
I am sorry Picture Snatcher, my response sounded very rude. That wasn't my intent. A few people have inboxed me and it scares me. I sometimes am afraid of posting things here because I have no idea if those lisk people are reading. I really want to post the forum message I found (where someone identified a body in DEC 2010), but I am a little afraid to do that.
Please accept my apology :(
 
I am sorry Picture Snatcher, my response sounded very rude. That wasn't my intent. A few people have inboxed me and it scares me. I sometimes am afraid of posting things here because I have no idea if those lisk people are reading. I really want to post the forum message I found (where someone identified a body in DEC 2010), but I am a little afraid to do that.
Please accept my apology :(
Maybe give it to someone else to post who isn't afraid?
 
This may get covered, haven't made it all the way the through the thread yet, buuuuut, Penn Station services CT and is the ONLY LIRR hub in Manhattan.


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Metro North is so much cheaper than taking Amtrak. In 2007, it was/still is cheaper/easier to drive to New Haven and catch the Metro North to NYC (for 1/4 the price of catching an Amtrak train from New London). In 2007 I believe the last Amtrak train would leave Penn Station by 11:00pm. Metro, had trains back to CT that could be taken at all hours of the night. Amtrak = Penn Station AND Metro = Grand Central Station. LIRR = Penn.
Your comment is food for thought. When do the LIRR trains stop transporting? It is hard for someone NOT familiar with NYC to know how to navigate from Penn Station (no more trains out) to Grand Central (plenty of trains out).
 
Interesting connection with the user names. IMO this user is probably just another pig. This post was from almost 2 years before Maureen was last seen -but you never know. It looks like (based on #31 on this thread) she started escorting in NYC "sometime in 2006." This did remind me of something from another thread (trouble copying it because I think it's been deleted but it's #46 from "Clues and Tattoos"). This user oo7 stopped posting on Utopia Guide on September 15th 2010, right between the time SG went missing and the first bodies were found.

LindsayLohan6
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On Time Out


Join DateMar 2013Posts1,653​
Ok now I know who you are ripper 69

this guy calls my phone along with another 631 guy ...not talking about you C or J , the number you call me from adleast 15x a day . EVERY day that I have been here , I finaly took an apointment . < yes my bad > I have a hard time saying no .

http://utopiaguide.com/forums/thread....16596/page-25

Mods i Know it may be againts the rules to link to utopiaguide but I believe this is a VERY significnt clue...calling 15 times a day is clearly the SK's MO this could be significant can be bend the rules on this one for the sake of no more dead bodies?

no more dead bodies!

Maureen returned to prostitution after a break. Hence the 2 year old review?
I feel these women prob had more "escort names" than they made known to friends and family.
Amber Costello, for instance, went by many names, not just "Carolina" as reported by the media.
I have noticed Utopi aguide recently has made a few threads unavailable since I first started searching.
Pretty sure Slinky Bender is part of the "CCC" crew.
 
Maureen returned to prostitution after a break. Hence the 2 year old review?
I feel these women prob had more "escort names" than they made known to friends and family.
Amber Costello, for instance, went by many names, not just "Carolina" as reported by the media.
I have noticed Utopi aguide recently has made a few threads unavailable since I first started searching.
Pretty sure Slinky Bender is part of the "CCC" crew.

I didn't realize Maureen had returned to prostitution after a break -considering that, this could very well be about her. I totally agree that all of the victims probably had multiple aliases. That's interesting that Utopia Guide has been making threads unavailable... since I have been searching it I started getting text messages from email accounts with links for sexy photos and Canadian pharmacies... If you aren't already you should take screen shots of anything even possibly relevant you find on there. Also, I hope you have plenty of screen shots of the comment you found that identifies a victim being from CT before that info was released.

There's actually a lot of info about ccicatrix in his posts -here's what I got from that so far, just speculation of course:
He is intelligent and probably educated because his writing is strong with advanced vocabulary, no spelling errors, etc (English is probably his first language too)
He was 56 in 2005
He may not have been that affluent -because he said in one post he finally got enough money to try a girl
He sort of made a reference to being LE "doughnut break"
Most of the locations listed for dates were in NJ
Very interesting about Slinky Bender too... I also have a hard time stomaching the content on UG too but IMO there's some important info in there.
 

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