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how old is JF?
born in 1968 would make him 41.
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how old is JF?
It's possible MC was transported to CB in her own vehicle .. possibly still alive.
I was surprised how much digging I needed to do. This is the only page of information I found on this business. I also believe that there was a runaway call, last year, from this same address. Does that mean that someone around Mackenzies age lives at that house?
He paid WC's property taxes, though.
I know RH has a couple of sons, one a couple years older than MC the other six or seven years older. Both pretty good kids. Oldest is at WSU. Not sure on the other. I dont know if they have any more kids than this. Don't know if the folks living further up have children.
Some conclusions and pure speculation:
Hooooold the phone, there is a big difference between bankruptcy, failed businesses, and divorce - and murder.
I have many friends and family members who have been divorced. In today's economy, I know many associated with failed businesses. And even a bankruptcy. None of these people would ever murder anyone.
If there was no blood at the CB scene, then the body was brought there after the wound were inflicted?
they weret married yet... im sure he was nice to all his X's before he married them.. does anyone know if JF is faithfully paying child support? I dont want to know numbers, just if hes paying what hes suppose to.
MOOOOOO
I believe you would be correct. But there has been one RUMOR in a previous thread about the possibility the river was used to clean up. As it was described, I think they were meaning the suspects could have washed their hands.
Getting the body washed would have been much more difficult, (depending on what the water level was at the time of drop off). I think del rio has said it's been quite low for quite some time. If so, washing the body at the location, (in the river), would require getting yourself in the river as well to get the body back out and onto the bank. Washing the body in the pond is also a possibility and could have been part of the plan, but still I believe would be rather difficult.
Graphic Warning. (And as always assumptions only)
Looking back at your question and considering the possibility that the body was not brought there in a "fresh" state -- death happening 24 hours or more before - (personally, I think body arrived here same day MC went missing). If the body was "old" some wounds may not have caused much further loss of blood, depending on: (1) location of wound, (2) what condition body was previously stored in, (i.e. freezer) (3) what position the body was stored in for those 24 or more hours. (i.e. if body stored on it's back, blood, pulled by gravity, pools against the back). Wounds I think could happen at Crescent Bar scene, (although I don't believe any were), with little blood loss would be puncture wounds to abdomen. This type of wound would be consistent with my theory that they wanted to sink the body out in the Columbia River, (the wound being an attempt to make sure the body wouldn't bloat and float back up).[/QUOTE
do you think maybe if the scent dogs were where he body was do you think they could track scent to where killer is?
do you think maybe if the scent dogs were where he body was do you think they could track scent to where killer is?
Good Point
Maybe that explains some of the spray paint and markers at CB..
Ok new to blogging, and my first but some of my thoughts cannot catch up on current talk, so will whirl wind, in mixed up order I am sure. Forgive me if I type something already brought up. Here goes
1. Car wash, could soap / wax residue, possibly be confirmed on the car to connect it to the car wash location rumor? Don't know...hadn't thought about that.
2. I would be very angry, if I found out that (they really have NO POI), as if so, they should be giving MORE careful info for tips!!! I agree! But I really do think that this crime was victim-specific.
3. Assuming the photo of car was taken at PC? Since the chain and moving was mentioned? The photos of MC car (thx by the way) was taken in daylight, so it must have spent the night as it was dark by the time it was called in abandoned. Looks as if it is in gravel, where were the muddy foot prints? How far away is the mud and how far driving in the mud to get into the gravel? Thus the footprints? Were they deep as if she could have been carried, OR could a pick up person, park in such a way that 1 got in on the muddy side and one in on the gravel side?? Did they initially assume the prints were MC, thus the ground search there? Dog scent comes to mind as well? The photos of the car were taken at the impound lot after it was brought back, I'm pretty sure. According to LE, there was one set of foot prints exiting the vehicle at PCR, and those prints went from car to asphalt.
4. Question? Skid marks in driveway were mentioned, when and where were those supposedly seen? Also curious if anyone knows if anyone elses auto has been taken in for inspection? I think they were on the concrete part of the driveway, near the garage, but facing out toward the river. Don't know about anyone else's vehicles being inspected. Hope so, if there's a suspect we don't know about!
5. Did LE talk to ALL residences of PC and question them. For sightings or cameras they may have. I'm pretty sure that LE went door to door on the afternoon of the 13th.
Everyone does not get the news. Also, any kids close to her age live in that PC area, up or down? Friends or foe? I can't answer this. Maybe a local can.
6. IMO no body went through the dam, and no boat was or even meant to be involved. She would have been in the river, not on shore. It would not have coincidently washed up at That CB property. Meant to be moved later by boat? I dont think so, especially since so many think she left us Feb. 9th, no one would wait that long to rid their actions. I agree 100%.
7. Ditto # 2 here!!! Cannot stop thinking on this one!!!!
8. This was MEGA RAGE/REVENGE or ?!!! Spoke with people in their mid 20 yr. old age range, and they stated that that boat launch location was/is for sure a known place to meet up for drugs. But also just a public boat launch, no opinion with relation to the case, just what was said.
Tired, will try to post this , and then catch up more, still yesterday, every day, like that movie (ground-hog day)? More input; buoy, girls & dance team, passing out flyers, CB beach, WC, JF, Lowes, etc. rumors and much more, but for now.. ZZZZZZZs
All just my thoughts, no LE known facts here, just thoughts on what I have read so far, my heart goes out, keep sleuthing, dont stop I do not want just someone arrested in this case, I want the killer/s arrested!!!!! Real justice!!! Back to my # 2 thought!!! For now
I dont know if this is important; however, there is a construction business located at the same address where Mackenzies car was found.
It is on this site:
http://wbjtoday.com/blog/newly-registered-contractors-published-july-2009/292/
Hooooold the phone, there is a big difference between bankruptcy, failed businesses, and divorce - and murder.
I have many friends and family members who have been divorced. In today's economy, I know many associated with failed businesses. And even a bankruptcy. None of these people would ever murder anyone.
Some conclusions and pure speculation:
At first, after hearing about MC missing, the car dump spot and the discovery of her body- based upon the placement of the car- I thought that it was possible she was abducted somewhere after she left the Hair Academy, likely by someone living in a proximity to where the car was dumped. I figured she had likely been driven to a home up Squilchuck, out in Malaga or in South Wenatchee and killed at the residence, likely as a crime of passion or accident. Following this, I thought the perp likely moved her car to the dump spot and them moved her body to CB. I also considered that she may have been held at the perp's residence for a while before she was killed.
I made these assumptions based upon what I had read as fact and heard as rumor. I made these assumotions before other facts came out- the boat launch sighting- and other widespread rumors had circulated - spec house involvement and issues re JF.
At this point, I now believe JF killed MC. The boat launch sighting leads me to believe she was sighted with someone she knew and that person killed her. The schizo and elaborate way evidence seems purposly distributed leads me to believe this murder was either planned and executed, or a fit of rage followed by organization and execution of a plan. To me, this says an adult did it.
I just cannot fathom her mother killing her. Sorry, it just doesn't work for me. The mother may be overbearing, she may be materialistic and career oriented to the point of ignoring her daughter's needs but I cannot see her killing her. I have seen a couple pictures of her in true motherly grief.
Nothing points to her father, her siblings or her friends. Possibly the boyfriend, but I don't see a kid his age putting this togehter and pulling it off. I also don't see a kid not breaking under the pressure I'm sure LE would be applying if they have the evidence I think they do. A kid would break and give up something- especially a grieving one that feared for his life as well as lamented the fact he took the life of a soul he likely loved. I don't think the boyfriend had anything to do with this.
This leaves one guy who would be in the inner circle- JF.
I'm not certain the motive- it could be anything. Motive aside, he is the one person who could possibly have been in contact with MC to a point where she would have been comfy enough to meet with him. Based on the fact that he had WC seemingly supporting him and such (lived at residence and had new vehicle) he is likely a master manipulator- one who could easily manipulate a 17 yr old girl into being alone with him, even if she had reason not to.
JF has tons of money problems. He has relationship problems. He has professional problems. Most of these seem to arise from situations he gets into- not paying taxes, etc., by attempting to be above the law.
He has been rumored to have anger management issues. He seems to lack the discipline needed in life to succeed without trouble, yet he constantly oversteps somewhere and sets himself back. Bankruptcy, Failed Business, Divorce... I think his next step was to attempt to be above the law again by raging and killing a 17 year old girl.
I'm not certain what the reason. I'm not certain how or where. I have ideas. I'd bet LE does too...We'll find that out- eventually.
I think JF did this. I think LE knows JF did this. I think it's a matter of time before this is all played out.
However- I wonder how much my opinion of what happened can be changed by the release of a major new fact or rumor?
Is he a controller? Does he rage when women assert themselves and don't kowtow to his whims?