WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - # 1

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Cubby, I look at it differently. For some reason, I believe the father here that this mother is a bit dramatic. I think he may have deferred to her regarding leaving him in the car... like maybe she wore the pants in the relationship? JMO


I'm seeing it differently. I see a lot of fathers waiting in cars with children while mom runs into the store. I kind of wondered why dad didn't choose to stay in the car with Sky when he was 3 mo's and send his wife in to go shopping. What was the need for him to go with her?

I once had a female roommate from Pakistan. Believe me Pakistani men do not allow their wives or sisters to 'wear the pants' in the family. In fact, they think very poorly of divorced women. (I can't add more without sharing personal details non related to this case.)
 
Why wouldn't she be receiving alimony & child support? Were they co-owners in the business? Maybe she's still receiving a portion of the proceeds.
 
I know right?

Makes me so very sad.

I have no hope for this baby. And hopefully the baby girl will be safe now and not returned. God I hate saying that. I dont ever wish for a child to be torn from their fam.

Wonder why, as it SEEMS, this mother never bonded w her youngest child?
 
So not liking any of this and wanting to know what is going on with mom. We have a non-working mother who still has money, runs out of gas, has no gas cans of her own, incident at Target, cell phone issues, child missing under ridiculous circumstances, mother supposedly "working with" LE. All sounds all too familiar if you ask me. If they seize duct tape I am losing it.

Ugly thought here, but what is in the "Trash Room?" My guess would be an incinerator. :(

I HIGHLY doubt it. More likely to be a compactor or some kind.

In any case, I agree with you. There is nothing even remotely plausible about mom's story. The fact that she apparently thought it was plausible says a great deal about her, in my opinion.

Sadly, I fear that too many mom's watched the Anthony case and learned a lesson: that if you get a decent lawyer and hide the body really well, you not only get away with murder, you become a celebrity.
 
"He responded that she had mental health problems and was involuntarily committed to a mental clinic in 2010. But earlier this year a social worker with state Child Protective Services reported that caregivers found her to be in good mental health and an appropriate caregiver for the children.

CPS received six referrals about the family from late 2009 to late 2010, state officials reported in court documents."

http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=1062749

"The disappearance came during a bitter custody dispute. Metalwala's lawyer, Leslie Clay Terry III, said that a mandatory mediation session last Tuesday produced an agreement that would have allowed his client some visitation rights."

From the article BBM.
 
Mods,I'm not sure if this is considered MSM, so if not please delete.

"Last December, a social worker determined that there was a “preponderance of evidence” that Metalwala had struck his daughter hard enough to cause bruising, court records show. The social worker also said Sky had troubling bruises, but because the boy could not talk, it wasn’t clear where he got them."

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/08/u_of_ill_investigation_faults_law_school_dean/
 
"The disappearance came during a bitter custody dispute. Metalwala's lawyer, Leslie Clay Terry III, said that a mandatory mediation session last Tuesday produced an agreement that would have allowed his client some visitation rights."

From the article BBM.

Then Sky's disappearance is awfully convenient, isn't it?
 
My question is now:

Is this a case of the courts and CPS dropping the ball yet again and leaving the child in the care of an unfit parent?

Seems so yes.


Shameful, so very shameful. Im outraged.
Something I dont know what, really needs to happen about all these children being killed by their parents. Not that we know that is what happened its just my outraged opinion.
 
Mods,I'm not sure if this is considered MSM, so if not please delete.

"Last December, a social worker determined that there was a “preponderance of evidence” that Metalwala had struck his daughter hard enough to cause bruising, court records show. The social worker also said Sky had troubling bruises, but because the boy could not talk, it wasn’t clear where he got them."

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/08/u_of_ill_investigation_faults_law_school_dean/

At this point I don't believe anything from either side. Not saying that he didn't do this, but I know someone who spent time in jail for bruising his wife. We were friends with both of them and the wife was not being honest about the situation, and I know this because we witnessed it. I say this with no bias because we are no longer friends with either of them. We found out that he was a different kind of <insert negative expletive here so I don't get banned>. If I were taken to court based on bruises on my kids I would never get out of jail. Again, not saying that I believe his side, because I don't believe either side. Just that mom has alienated me to the point of not believing anything she says or does.
 
I HIGHLY doubt it. More likely to be a compactor or some kind.

In any case, I agree with you. There is nothing even remotely plausible about mom's story. The fact that she apparently thought it was plausible says a great deal about her, in my opinion.

Sadly, I fear that too many mom's watched the Anthony case and learned a lesson: that if you get a decent lawyer and hide the body really well, you not only get away with murder, you become a celebrity.

BBM. I was just thinking the same thing this morning. I think a lot of sociopaths would operate fully in the "take down anything that stands in my way" mode, if not for a self-preservation/fear of being caught instinct. If influenced by the notion that it can be easy to get away with whatever they want (and, as you said, gain celebrity status over it), I wonder how many more are pushed to that point. Scary stuff. What we need is a high-profile case where the perp, though presented as swift and cunning, is caught, convicted, and swiftly prosecuted.
 
Well she sure can't claim she didn't know it was not o'key to leave a child alone in the car, considering she had done it before and got into trouble. Boggles the mind.
 
If this is a case of her protecting him, I will feel SO much better. I know that this is a waste of LE time and effort; and I am not excusing that. However my heart could heal withthe greater possibility that he is alive.
 
http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=1062749

Interesting things from this article about Sky's parents' relationship:

"The couple had been together for 14 years. He was 21 and she was a 15-year-old high school sophomore when they began dating, according to one of her court declarations"

and

JB's mother "wrote in a court declaration that they married in 2003 in her kitchen just before he was to be deported to Pakistan."

This woman was a young teenager when she met Sky's father. Then he was facing deportation before they married.
Sadly, the mediation session Tuesday may have pushed her over the edge. I don't see this ending well.
 
"The disappearance came during a bitter custody dispute. Metalwala's lawyer, Leslie Clay Terry III, said that a mandatory mediation session last Tuesday produced an agreement that would have allowed his client some visitation rights."

From the article BBM.


This doesn't surprise me. However, I am still not convinced she hasn't hidden this child. Perhaps she has beliefs that he'd end up like his dad, or some other who knows what mind set. (both sides can be ugly in custody battles).

I'd really like to know how dad interacted with the children. Did he favor the male child over the female child? I'm not asking to be accusatory towards dad, just trying to get into moms mindset.

With extended family possibly living oversea's I haven't ruled out that mom hasn't made arrangements for someone to take Sky out of the country. I think we have to consider moms possible fears (rational or not) on dads interaction with each child.

jmo
 
http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=1062749

Interesting things from this article about Sky's parents' relationship:

"The couple had been together for 14 years. He was 21 and she was a 15-year-old high school sophomore when they began dating, according to one of her court declarations"

and

JB's mother "wrote in a court declaration that they married in 2003 in her kitchen just before he was to be deported to Pakistan."

This woman was a young teenager when she met Sky's father. Then he was facing deportation before they married.
Sadly, the mediation session Tuesday may have pushed her over the edge. I don't see this ending well.


And most 21 yr olds who are involved with 15 year olds are usually sent to jail and or prison and end up as RSO's.

Hmmm and jmo
 
Mods,I'm not sure if this is considered MSM, so if not please delete.

"Last December, a social worker determined that there was a “preponderance of evidence” that Metalwala had struck his daughter hard enough to cause bruising, court records show. The social worker also said Sky had troubling bruises, but because the boy could not talk, it wasn’t clear where he got them."

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/08/u_of_ill_investigation_faults_law_school_dean/

Wow, whether either of them had anything to do with their son's disappearance or not, I'm not really liking either of the so-called parents too much.
 
Thanks for clarifying. I still don't know how a 4 year old could be "coached" to lie so well. It's funny how my 12yo DS tries to get his 3 younger brothers to lie for him about stupid stuff (i.e., he left an empty milk container in the fridge). They are ages 5-8 and never manage to lie very well! :)

Now I see what you're saying. I agree that it would be very, very hard to coach a four year old to say that her brother had been in the car, if he hadn't or to otherwise go along with a lie. They may start to but it comes out funny: "Mommy told me Sky was in the car. Mommy told me to tell you that." Okay, but did you see Sky? "No."

I've heard tapes or read transcripts of incidents like this. The Tonya Craft case is an example, IIRC.

Everyone's talking about the customs in Pakistan. Her maiden name is either Russian or from the Ukraine. I even hear the accent strongly in the audios. Wonder how long she's been in the country. I see she went to high school here. We have a large Russian community where I live and I haven't met any of them yet who did not have a strong, expressive personality. MOO

Dad's Pakistani and I think his mom was on one of the tapes. Mom appears to be eastern European and has a very slight accent to me.

Reading about this case brought back a memory - well, not a memory b/c I was too young but a story from my childhood: my mother was driving my older brother to preschool and ran out of gas. She walked home in her housecoat, holding his hand, carrying me on her hip, and 7 months pregnant with my little brother. THAT'S what mothers do. :heartbeat:

Oh. What a great post. Your dear mama.

I'm not buying her story about that domestic incident.

See, this whole incident has me questioning her on that too. But, it is totally possible that he did abuse her and hit the daughter and that she is also crazy and/or abusive. It's hard to tell. Marks were found on Sky according to the article but he couldn't talk yet and say where they came from. Maybe from mom? Nevertheless, I'm not totally willing to discount that he is abusive. An abusive husband/father is not mutually exclusive of crazy mother who kills her kid. Yet I agree. Everything she says should be questioned at this point.

First, I think the story is BS.

Second, I think that if I'm wrong and it's not BS, it's incredibly irresponsible to leave your 2 year old by the side of the road like that.

Third, I listened to the audios on the mom's blog. I caution anyone who wants to make judgements about her based on these. It is statistically very rare for mothers to make false allegations of abuse in custody cases. However, stranger abductions are even more statistically unlikely. So in this case, I guess anything is possible.

Not in my experience as a family law attorney. Sadly, it is RAMPANT. False DV allegations. False allegations of abuse or neglect of the kids. I see it so often it's not even funny.

yes, link provided in previous posts but here is another one . . .

Complicating matters is a prior incident at the Redmond Target store two years ago, where the parents left the same child, then just a baby, sleeping in his car seat as the two shopped. An onlooker called police. Sky was left alone for nearly an hour.

The boy's father admits it was a stupid mistake and can't imagine how his ex could have done it again.


http://www.king5.com/news/cities/bellevue/Two-year-old-boy-misisng-in-Bellevue-133327908.html

I;m glad you posted that because I thought he had a lot of nerve questioning how she could have left a baby in the car when he did the same thing. This puts it into perspective. After the lesson they learned, he seems to be saying how the heck could she do it again? They were charged with child endangerment and had to undergo parenting classes. That should have left a big enough impression.

My question is now:

Is this a case of the courts and CPS dropping the ball yet again and leaving the child in the care of an unfit parent?

Or perhaps, the lesser of two evils? I see THAT a lot as well. It's horrible. But when you have evaluators having to make a decision they sometimes massage facts i their minds to make one parent more appealing instead of simply saying: "This family has problems. Neither parent is stellar. For now, mother is a bit less problematic though, so custody to her." In other words, I'm saying that maybe dad was no bargain either.

It's funny, these two were very young when they married. 14 years later and they are acting more like they would have 14 years ago. :twocents:
 
JB (and SM) told police they had only left infant Sky in their SUV for 15-20 minutes in the first incident at Target but store surveillance footage proved it to be 55 minutes. Wonder how long she actually "left" him this time, as she states it was an hour -- with that gas station being exactly 0.5 miles from her abandoned vehicle (btw....you'd have to be crawling on your hands and knees to make a 1 mile trip roundtrip last an hour -- especially considering you got a ride back to the car and actually only walked 0.5 miles -- to the gas station, not back -- altogether. If she was spending that extra 30-40 minutes waiting at the gas station for her friend to pick her up and drive her back to her car, why wouldn't she just walk the 20 minutes back 0.5 miles to the car and wait with her son for her friend to arrive??). Doesn't make sense at all.
 
http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=1062749

Interesting things from this article about Sky's parents' relationship:

"The couple had been together for 14 years. He was 21 and she was a 15-year-old high school sophomore when they began dating, according to one of her court declarations"

and

JB's mother "wrote in a court declaration that they married in 2003 in her kitchen just before he was to be deported to Pakistan."

This woman was a young teenager when she met Sky's father. Then he was facing deportation before they married.
Sadly, the mediation session Tuesday may have pushed her over the edge. I don't see this ending well.
Why would she get rid of one child and not both?
It is obvious to me she favored the daughter .
 
http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=1062749

Interesting things from this article about Sky's parents' relationship:

"The couple had been together for 14 years. He was 21 and she was a 15-year-old high school sophomore when they began dating, according to one of her court declarations"

and

JB's mother "wrote in a court declaration that they married in 2003 in her kitchen just before he was to be deported to Pakistan."

This woman was a young teenager when she met Sky's father. Then he was facing deportation before they married.
Sadly, the mediation session Tuesday may have pushed her over the edge. I don't see this ending well.

Great point! If they were married for 14 years and she is now 30, then she was 16 when they got married.
 
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