Maggie_Mayz
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Thats if they have submitted to that database.Yes, you did miss on some important details. If you go back a few pages you can gain better understanding .
No, the problem is the sample that LE has is not a Y-DNA profile. The current sample that LE has is not usable in this sense. Unfortunately, companies like ancestry and 23andme only extract DNA from saliva. I contacted the coroner regarding this and have been looking for a company that would be willing to work with law enforcement to get the DNA from blood and then submit to organization like ancestry so Lyle can be identified.
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One of the websleuths (Buttons) had emailed Mr. Youmans back in Dec 2016 and got the following feedback,
I spoke at length with Colleen Fitzpatrick, the woman who solved the Lori Ruff case. The problem is, the DNA profile we have for Lyle is different than one you would get from a company like Ancestry. We need a Y-DNA profile, and from what I have learned, the profile is different. I had hoped to submit our profile to one of the Ancestry companies, but from what I understand, they wont cooperate, as they dont want to be associated with Law Enforcement. I understand their reasoning, as they dont want people to submit a saliva sample to find their ancestors, and wind up getting arrested for some old crime, where their DNA was in CODIS. Ive tried to get Lyles DNA profile from the University of North Texas DNA database, but they wont release it to me. They said they would give it to another government lab, as the DNA sequence is so long, that a lab would know which section to compare.
If I had known about companies like Ancestry and 23 and me back in 2001, I probably could have obtained a saliva sample from Lyle and submitted it to the private company, but all we took was a blood sample that I submitted to the University of North Texas, and the profile was run through CODIS. - Lane Youmans, Grays Harbor Coroner
This is another email from Mr. Youmans when I emailed him in early January of this year:
Ancestry and 23 and me have the equipment to extract a DNA profile from a saliva sample, but as I was told, they dont possess the technology to extract DNA from a blood sample at this time, but possibly in the future. At this time, there is nothing we can do. There is also the issue of these companies working with a Law Enforcement agency. - Lane Youmans, Grays Harbor Coroner
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There has got to be a way that this can be solved. I believe that there are people out there who miss Lyle and mourn his loss. I feel responsible to give him back his name and let his memory rest once and for all.
Here is my perspective and I have been silent long enough on the subject:
I have an ancestry account but have not submitted DNA, and I am not sure I want to in all honesty after reading this and similar missing persons threads about this very thing.
It is appalling that some people think it is perfectly acceptable to invade ones privacy and use innocent databases and people, to identify someone who took great lengths not to be identified, just to identify him.
Not to mention that Ancestry and 23&Me would both be sued for releasing the info without all those peoples permission as thats not what they upload DNA for. As would whatever agency uploaded it to begin with...talk about invasion of privacy on a massive scale.
Those companies would be obliterated if they used them for those purposes. It is sad to see so many feel they should be used for them with no thought or regard for the innocent people whose privacy is invaded.
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