I don't know Rashomon.rashomon said:I was looking for the members' theory thread today too. What happened to the thread?
I just asked Capps maybe she knows...
Failing that, I'll ask one of the mods, maybe they know.
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I don't know Rashomon.rashomon said:I was looking for the members' theory thread today too. What happened to the thread?
AMEN coloradokares!coloradokares said:Steve Thomas moved on. Not because he didn't do his job. But because he did.
capps said:Back in May I posted this:
"IMO,"throwing people under the bus",is an unfair phrase to be using toward the Ramsey's.
First off,the Ramsey's weren't randomly and voluntarily saying "I think this one may have done it!" They were being asked by the LE to think of anything,or anyone at all,that in hindsight seemed strange.
Secondly,and more importantly,we have to remember,a lot of the people the Ramsey's befriended in Boulder,were not life long friends from way back when.The Ramsey's only lived in Colorado for I believe five years? So some of these friends were only known to the Ramsey's for five years ... some less.Not alot of time to find out that some of them may have had weird skeletons in their closets.
In all honesty ... if it were me,after finding my daughter the way they did .... I would have no mercy,I would be spewing out anyone's name that I thought in the tinest way seemd strange. I may ruin some friendships along the way,but I would be doing all my apologizing after my daughters killer was in jail."
I still feel the same way.
They had little fear of law suites as many as they initiated. Wonder if that would fall under the heading of What goes around comes back around......Eagle1 said:Have to agree. And for all we know, the R's may know something very suspicious that they didn't say for fear of getting sued or something when they already had enough trouble.
I am sorry I have to say this. Three times I just went to the next post and said CK just move on don't go there. But you'll have to forgive me for this one. I can't help myself. To read the accusations against the Whites by Susan Stine is as productive as reading the content list on the back of the sack on a bag of natural fertilizer. Susan Stine is the one who got in trouble for sending sending fake and accusing emails and everything. She had to answer to that and was orderded to cease immediately. She didn't turn out to be so upright and stellar herself. Sorry. I'll have to regoogle to get the link. Just google Susan Stine JonBenet Ramsey Murder. Youll get the link.Eagle1 said:I forget who said that in this thread, first I'd heard of it, but did S. Stine really have 31 accusations against the Whites? 31?
Interesting. Source? What were some of the accusations?
It came from ST's book.31 reeks of desperation,IMO.Why was she so anxious for herself and the R's to appear innocent by casting blame onto the White's?Eagle1 said:I forget who said that in this thread, first I'd heard of it, but did S. Stine really have 31 accusations against the Whites? 31?
Interesting. Source? What were some of the accusations?
I believe he refused to answer those questions,as I recall a statement in ref. to the q's regarding it : "and I understand you are not going to answer those".Tristan said:Halycon...EXCELLENT post. John Ramseys clothing fibers were found on
Jonbenet's genitals. HOW was he planning on explaining that?
Oh, I KNOW!! With a really good lawyer!!!
I just recalled something else I heard Wendy say on that program...
She made the point that as a lawyer she would never let a client answer such probing questions about drug use unless they were truly relevant in an investigation. That the Ramseys were asked this rang all sorts of bells for Wendy -- she didn't think the investigators would be talking about Klonopin unless it was in either the pineapple or JB's body or both. The lawyers would not be talking about it just for the sake of talking about it.
She also said that if JonBenet were being used in *advertiser censored* production, she might be more accommodating if drugged.
She also mentioned the "eroded hymen" and "chronic interstitial vaginal injuries," which were clear to her experienced eyes as a sexual assault prosecutor that there had been sexual abuse that predated the murder. Dr. Wecht is clear on this as well; I believe he said it went back days if not longer.
Finally, she again mentioned that fibers consistent with John's clothing were found on JonBenet's genitals. When asked about those fibers during police questioning, Lin Wood and John's reactions were very telling: false anger about the implication and classic "lawyer distraction" strategy of changing the subject. But no real answers about how his fibers got there. Couldn't be from the washing machine since the oversized underpants had just been taken from the package.
I think this is why she is adamant that John Ramsey has never satisfactorily explained himself on this topic and that there is good reason to demand he do so.
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Bumping this thread with this post since there are some references being made on another thread about WM's comments.
Interesting information: bromelian (found in pineapple) can double the effect of Klonopin and Valium.
How interesting, first time I've read about this theory of Klonopin possibly being given to JB. Do you mind pointing me to the other thread where it's been discussed? TIA
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