wunderngwhy
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learning patience. that's for sure
Patience and delay achieve more than force and rage.
--Jean de La Fontaine
learning patience. that's for sure
There was a lot of activity this summer with the big heroin bust in Norfolk. Connection, maybe??O.K. Seems to me that WH has been linked to AJ; he was last one to see her alive, as far as we know. Now, he is being linked to heroin, which killed AJ.
[AJ + WH + Heroin] + (- AJ) + (- Heroin) = WH + [abduction & murder.]
= WH abducted and murdered AJ[SUP]99[/SUP]*
Could the reason for not producing the affidavit supporting the search warrant be for witness protection? Where, even if witness name(s) were to be redacted, the identification of the informant (witness) would be so obvious as to make him a target to be done away with?[emoji14]ut em up:
It may be a little late to be asking this question, but: Has the actual search warrant itself (without the affidavit) been produced to defendant?
Just a wild stab ... and MOO.
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*No surprise I flunked Algebra.
There was a lot of activity this summer with the big heroin bust in Norfolk. Connection, maybe??
http://wavy.com/2015/08/10/more-outten-organization-members-plead-guilty-to-heroin-trafficking/
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I think the reason it took so long for LE to search WH's phone (one of his phones!):stormingmad::furious:
is that they did not focus on it until they began interviewing witnesses who revealed information that could be corroborated by searching WH's phone.
I still maintain that WH did not voluntarily saunter on down to the police station to coffee klatsch :liar: :silly::coffeews::coffeews:with them about AJ's disappearance.:liar: He was arrested and taken into custody at his motel room, in the wee hours of the morning, on Sat., 03/21/2015. [If I am wrong about any of this, I stand to be corrected.] He has remained in custody since that day.
When he was arrested, I'm sure he took his phone with him. It was taken away from WH when LE checked him in at the PD, and was part of his "property" which LE inventoried, along with whatever else they got off of him (some of the credit card pieces, I believe). Since WH wasn't being released on bond, or otherwise set free, the phone wasn't going anywhere either. There was no hurry on getting a search warrant for WH's phone. They could always get around to that after they had their other ducks in a row. :hen: :rubberducky: :chicken:
It was good that he went nowhere after he was arrested. All of that evidence on his phone would have been gone! (I think?)
(All above is Just My opinion:thinking
Source: Federal Case Criminal No. 2:15cr116 that I saw using PACER account.Case 2:15-cr-00116-AWA-RJK Document 18 Filed 10/07/15 Page 1 of 9 PageID# 93 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF VIRGINIA
Norfolk Division
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, )
)
v. ) Criminal No. 2:15cr116
) Hon. Arenda Wright Allen
WESLEY PAUL HADSELL, )
)
Defendants. )
DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO SUPPRESS
Defendant Wesley Paul Hadsell (“Mr. Hadsell”, by counsel, pursuant to Rule 12(b)(3)(c) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure and the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, moves this Court to enter an order suppressing from evidence at the trial of this matter all evidence obtained from Mr. Hadsell’s hotel room on or about March 20, 2015. In support of this motion, defendant submits the following:
BACKGROUND
On March 20, 2015 at 4:58 p.m., Investigator R.A. Stocks of the Norfolk Police Department’s Vice and Narcotics unit, submitted an affidavit for a search warrant to search room 129 of America’s Best Inn located at 1850 E. Little Creek Road in Norfolk, Virginia in an effort to find evidence related to an abduction offense. Subsequent to the magistrate approving/signing the search warrant, police conducted a search of the hotel room where Mr. Hadsell had been staying. While conducting the search, the officers also seized, amongst some additional items, ammunition.
Mr. Hadsell was subsequently arrested on a Criminal Complaint on September 9, 2015 and charged with felon in possession of ammunition in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g). At a
Do we know for a fact that Wes voluntarily turned over his phone? Isn't it just as likely that it was seized by LE when he went in for the interview?
So if they were to track your GPS would they find that you were near that home?
No. I gave them my phone voluntarily, too so I don`t know where that home was in relation to where I worked. I have no clue on that. I worked in Franklin County in the township. I don`t know where the home is in relation to where I worked at," says Wesley.
Good question. The legal papers say "an Apple iPhone 6 which was recovered from the person of Mr. Hadsell
on or about March 20, 2015 at the Norfolk Police Operations Center on East Virginia Beach
Boulevard in the City of Norfolk, Virginia."
Wes says he handed it over voluntarily. He says a lot of things...
Yes he certainly does. Interesting that in the legal papers the wording says the phone was "recovered" from his person. That leads me to believe they had a warrant for the phone. But what do I know? Maybe Wes did just say, "Hey guys? Here's my phone, if you want it. No no... please, take it."
Yes he certainly does. Interesting that in the legal papers the wording says the phone was "recovered" from his person. That leads me to believe they had a warrant for the phone. But what do I know? Maybe Wes did just say, "Hey guys? Here's my phone, if you want it. No no... please, take it."
I'll bet they did have a warrant for the phone, and he "handed it over willingly" because that's what people do when they are presented with that situation.
BUT am I crazy, or didn't Wes ramble at one point about the cops being annoyed with him because he had a second phone, on which he had received the tips about the clothing strewn alongside the road? I was under the impression that this "second phone" had not been given to LE. As if it had disappeared (never to be found) kind of like the handgun he mentioned the cops never finding -- which they haven't I guess.
As far as WH's "second phone", I figure that it was one those phones called a "burner phone" (disposable). The kind that you can buy "off the rack" at many places like Wal-Mart, convenience stores, drug and grocery stores. You can buy extra minutes, or just toss it and buy another. I don't really know what the deal is with them -- but I'd like to find out. I'm sure there are many on the board who are up on exactly how they work.
I would love to know how these phones that you can buy "off the rack" work. For instance, if someone pays cash for it, how does the company keep track of who bought them? Do you have to register by calling some 800 number from your "primary" cell phone or home phone before you can activate it?
What if he threw that burner phone in the water somewhere? Along with the gun? When was that picture of him on SM showing him fishing somewhere with a quip about it? There may be some truth (to a degree) in that photo. Or it could be complete bs. I can't help but go with my gut theory which was that WH was obsessed with AJ - the picture of her graduation or whatever that was still haunts me -everyone can write it off if they want; no worries. But I also think he had a lot of pix of her at the gun range. I can picture him now showing her how to hold the gun. Could LE possibly know if her phone was on the bed beside him in that motel room, at least on that date 3/20? I can't remember when they found her phone at the moment. At that property with the pond, right? Grrrrrrr!!!
Family and friends of Hadsell tell 10 On Your Side they started searching the area around 5 p.m. March 19 after they got a tip about clothing on the side of the road. They say they found at least four items they believe belong to Hadsell and notified police.
http://wavy.com/2015/03/21/crews-search-for-missing-teen-anjelica-hadsell-in-chesapeake/
The Chesapeake Police Department also confirms they were called on March 19 at 6:20 p.m. to assist Norfolk officers on the scene.
A person working in the area who did not want their workplace identified tells 10 On Your Side detectives with the Norfolk Police Department were back in the area Friday morning and requested surveillance video from the business.http://wavy.com/2015/03/21/crews-search-for-missing-teen-anjelica-hadsell-in-chesapeake/
The witness said he did not tell police the whole story about the jacket until March 20. They arrested Hadsell the next day and charged him with four counts of obstructing justice, one charge of possessing ammunition after a felony and one charge of breaking and entering. He was also charged with animal cruelty after allegedly hitting a dog during the break-in.
On March 20, 2015 at 4:58 p.m., Investigator R.A. Stocks of the Norfolk Police Department’s Vice and Narcotics unit, submitted an affidavit for a search warrant to search room 129 of America’s Best Inn located at 1850 E. Little Creek Road in Norfolk, Virginia in an effort to find evidence related to an abduction offense. Subsequent to the magistrate approving/signing the search warrant, police conducted a search of the hotel room where Mr. Hadsell had been staying. While conducting the search, the officers also seized, amongst some additional items, ammunition
The search continued Friday night around 7:30 p.m, according to a neighbor who wished to remain anonymous. Detectives with the Norfolk Police Department and a forensics team combed the area in the dark wearing knee-high rain boots.
Forensics teams collected evidence in brown paper bags and stopped at times to take photographs. Detectives on scene confirmed undercover officials were involved in the search.
More than a dozen law enforcement officers were on scene until 11 p.m., says one neighbor.http://wavy.com/2015/03/21/crews-search-for-missing-teen-anjelica-hadsell-in-chesapeake/