Wesley Hadsell Arrested 21-22 March 2015

[Globalgabby]

Around the same time, means at approximately the same time, not exactly the same time.

The meaning of "around" or "approximately" depends on the context and we do not have that from this its vague as to exact times. There are many times within the context of this case. So how do we know which one to use? Why discount one for the other? Same with eyewitnesses.. why discount 2 that lived on the street but believe others in area of the abandoned house that didn't live near or even call it in. They could all be right, wrong or partially or right but not connected to AJ.

Why believe some of what WH says but discount others (not speaking of things that has been proven lie with court documents) the whole pick and choosing is confusing to me just to fit someones theory. JMHO

Oh this reminds me. One of these witnesses says that she saw a white truck (van?) in the driveway of the house the day after AJ was missing. Who knows what day that means ... but then she says it that she saw it in the driveway TWICE. [video=youtube;YBsIYbRa3Wg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBsIYbRa3Wg[/video]

Now, is this the witness that I remember someone talking about, saying "how could she see that from where she lives"? Well, whatever, she could or couldn't, did or didn't. I am losing track. But my point is that according to her a white truck was in the driveway twice in the March 2, 3, 4 time frame. And then at some point within a week or two of this the green/black/blue (depending on what you read) Dodge Caravan went up the driveway and behind the house. And then, surely unrelated?, they find a stolen Ford Expedition behind the house on Oct. 21.

That is a lot of traffic for an abandoned house.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Good, yes, I agree this sounds corect with what me know. Now, can we factor in the black/blue Dodge Caravan that was supposedly seen pulling into the driveway and around back, turning off the lights? I know that witnesses are often quite off on times, but neighbor said he saw this 3-4 weeks before April 10. http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news...s-at-home-where-human-remains-found/25573359/

Couldn't it just as easily been 5 weeks, which puts it around March 3? For some reason I always imagined that this was when he/they dropped AJ's body - with this vehicle ... i.e. The Gps data shows he drove past then back to the house - maybe checking it out as a possible dump site, he tossed the phone, and later he comes back in the Dodge caravan and hides AJ's body behind the house. If this Dodge Caravan is related to AJ's case, who owns it? When that interview hit the air on April 10, did anyone realize/recall that WH had borrowed a Dodge Caravan? Or is the Dodge Caravan a total red herring and unrelated, or did it exist at all? Argh so frustrating.

My theory on the Dodge Caravan has some tears in it now...which is partly why I was asking so many questions about the stolen vehicle Marissa found out there. I used to think WH dumped AJ's body at the Franklin house in the very early morning hours of March 3 (I still think I have that part right) and that for some reason, he needed to return to the site a few weeks later out of panic (forgot something, needed to retrieve something to plant, whatever). My assumption was that he borrowed the Caravan from someone. Trust me, users loan dealers their vehicles all the time in exchange for dope. I still think I might have that part right, but heck, for all we know the Caravan could have just been someone looking to strip copper from the house, or slipping back there to do drugs, or for any other nefarious reason.

I dunno.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Around the same time, means at approximately the same time, not exactly the same time.

The meaning of "around" or "approximately" depends on the context and we do not have that from this its vague as to exact times. There are many times within the context of this case. So how do we know which one to use? Why discount one for the other? Same with eyewitnesses.. why discount 2 that lived on the street but believe others in area of the abandoned house that didn't live near or even call it in. They could all be right, wrong or partially or right but not connected to AJ.

Why believe some of what WH says but discount others (not speaking of things that has been proven lie with court documents) the whole pick and choosing is confusing to me just to fit someones theory. JMHO

I'm not sure why it's confusing. It's a simple matter of process of elimination based on:

- credibility (WH has none, he lies like a rug)
- motive (or not) to lie (WH has plenty)
- verifiable (comparing what he's said to what we know to be fact, based on court documents)

When you put all these together as a filter of sorts, and then go back and re-read every word he said to the media before he was arrested, knowing what we know now, that his and AJ's phone's had identical GPS tracking from before she was reported missing until at least 8am on March 3rd... it's pretty easy to discount pretty much every thing he says.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Hadsell's attorney, Eric Korsland says we shouldn't be too quick to convict. He says there's still too many questions.

"Who else has access to this work van," Korslund asks. "That raises another question as well. I mean its one thing if you have GPS on somebody`s cell phone because a cell phone could be identified to a particular person, but a work van belongs to a company and so there`s a lot of people that use this work van."
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I think that is a bit of a reach. From what was said earlier, Wes used that same van and drove it back at the end of each day. And the GPS was during the working hours, so what was Wes driving if not the van they checked?

That attorney is trying Defense-slight-of-hand with that tricky statement. "Hey, anyone could drive the company van..." But no, not really. The company absolutely knows who had the van and when they had it...

If that is his defense then he is in real trouble.

Yeah well, how many people who used that van had a stepdaughter who turned up dead at the very house the work van was tracked to?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Just to clear it up a little more, here are just a couple of WH's statements to the media about AJ before he was arrested on "un-related" charges. But first...

Keep in mind, as he was saying all things, according to the MSM report, forensic IT specialists have disclosed that he was in possession of AJ's phone (her phone and his phone had the same exact GPS data - meaning the phones were together) from before the time she was reported missing until at least 8am on the day she was reported missing, March 3rd when the phone pinged at the pond. We can safely assume she had possession of her own phone on the Sunday prior to her being last seen since she was tweeting from home up until about 10:30 Sunday evening. We can also safely assume she still had her phone Monday morning at 7am when her mom and sisters saw her before leaving the house. This leaves a (roughly) 24 hour window of when their phones displayed the same GPS data. Crucial parts BBM:

"We were talking back and forth," Hadsell said. "On the third, she texted me the okay emoji, you know, the little hand sign." That was the last text. Her parents reported her missing from their Tarrallton neighborhood home around 9:15 that night."That was the last time we had contact with her. Or was it her?" Hadsell asked. "We don't know. We're not sure." http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/local/mycity/norfolk/2015/03/12/he-search-for-aj/70226930/

Wesley shared new details about AJ's final text messages to him - messages he believes were sent by someone else."The text messages from Anjelica were saying that she used heroin two week prior to her disappearance. " "Wait a minute. What text messages?" "Oh you don`t know about those then. Anjelica texted us throughout the day of March 2nd after no one physically saw her after 2 pm I guess. Anjelica's phone communicated with my phone and her mother's phone. That`s why in the beginning I said that was not my daughter texting, someone had her phone. I can`t prove that, but that person texted us and came out in little bits and pieces that she had used heroin two weeks prior to her disappearance." http://wtkr.com/2015/06/29/aj-hadse...inal-text-messages-were-sent-by-someone-else/

The second one is far more damning than anything else he's said to the media, as far as I'm concerned. JH was the first to tell the media she didn't think it was AJ, or wasn't sure it was AJ texting, and WH jumped on that, trying to make it look like "someone" took her and was using her phone. Taking a bit of truth there (since he's the one who had her phone) and spinning it into this big mystery of "oh goodness, where could AJ be?!" when he knew all along exactly where she was, and who was doing the texting. That bolded section in red was the supposed witness who saw AJ driving the truck on Millard that afternoon - you know - when her phone and WH's phone were tracking together on GPS. He was adamant to the media that this neighbor saw her though, which is exactly why I don't believe this sighting to be credible.

 

[Globalgabby]

My theory on the Dodge Caravan has some tears in it now...which is partly why I was asking so many questions about the stolen vehicle Marissa found out there. I used to think WH dumped AJ's body at the Franklin house in the very early morning hours of March 3 (I still think I have that part right) and that for some reason, he needed to return to the site a few weeks later out of panic (forgot something, needed to retrieve something to plant, whatever). My assumption was that he borrowed the Caravan from someone. Trust me, users loan dealers their vehicles all the time in exchange for dope. I still think I might have that part right, but heck, for all we know the Caravan could have just been someone looking to strip copper from the house, or slipping back there to do drugs, or for any other nefarious reason.

I dunno.

I guess I was thinking that the van supposedly passed the LE search without any charges coming from it. We do not know this from a media or LE report (do we?); TGB told us so here in the forum. So I was thinking that if the van cleared the search, she must not have been in the van; I was thinking that she must have been taken there some other way - thus my thinking that it was the late night drive up by the Dodge Caravan (if the witness is correct about that) when her body was delivered to that location.

But that doesn't really make sense if I consider things I've "learned" from LE via some podcasts. I listened obsessively to the Serial podcast last year, and this year I have been listening to the Undisclosed podcast and the Truth and Justice podcast, which continue looking at the case. To discuss Adnan Syed's case here would be WAY off topic. But one thing I have heard several times by LE on these podcasts is that a person who knows the person he/she killed (or was involved with their death) is much more likely to a) put as much distance between themselves and the victim as quickly as possible and b) cover up or hide the body. A killer who does not know the victim is less likely to do either of these things.

So you are probably correct. He moved AJ's body to the back of the abandoned house as soon as he could. Probably the morning of March 3. Now, about his work van. Not to be too graphic, but let's just assume that AJ's body was intact and not leaking bodily fluids, blood, etc... Could he transport her in the van, then wipe down and vacuum the van, and LE would find NOTHING? To me, it seems that if LE had found DNA or something belonging to AJ, WH would have been named a suspect in her death, no questions asked. How easy is it to wipe the trace of someone away after they have been in your vehicle?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Now, is this the witness that I remember someone talking about, saying "how could she see that from where she lives"? Well, whatever, she could or couldn't, did or didn't. I am losing track.

A little sleuthing via google maps answers that question. There aren't a ton of houses out there. Riverdale Drive is the last crossroad before the border. Smiths Ferry Rd. is the main N/S road, so I would imagine pretty much *everyone* who lives on Riverdale Drive uses Smiths Ferry to either head north or south quite often to do all their shopping, errands, banking, their work commute, etc. (unless of course they just drive through the woods, or head east or west on Riverdale). For all we know, the woman in that video attends or works at the church just across and up the road from the house AJ was found at. It's not at all a stretch to consider her statements as accurate, despite the fact she can't see the abandoned house from her house. She likely drives right past it on a regular basis, and knowing it's abandoned, found it rather odd to see a vehicle there.

 

[sallye818]

Ugh, as for CH, most rational, well-balanced people have precious little use for her or her ilk. Best to avoid that madness, like one would avoid slamming a brick into your own face.

I guess this explains WHY I feel out in left field picking daisies about a lot of comments here on WS. I avoided CH and her web site after two visits way back at the beginning of this case...hadn't heard of her before and I certainly do not regret my ignorance of her and her idiocy. I will gladly continue to be in the dark about what lies and half-truths she puts out there and stick to the balanced, level-headed folks here

 

[alexwood]

looks like they have edited the piece from the orig. (I knew would so I screen shot the orig to see how it would change along the way)

POSTED 7:20 PM, OCTOBER 28, 2015, BY BECCA MITCHELL, MIKE MATHER AND MARISSA JASEK, UPDATED AT 06:32PM, OCTOBER 30, 2015 http://wtkr.com/2015/10/28/the-mystery-behind-the-discovery-of-aj-hadsells-body/

Hadsell's attorney, Eric Korsland says we shouldn't be too quick to convict. He says there's still too many questions.

"Who else has access to this work van," Korslund asks. "That raises another question as well. I mean its one thing if you have GPS on somebody`s cell phone because a cell phone could be identified to a particular person, but a work van belongs to a company and so there`s a lot of people that use this work van."

Oh, right, Mr. Korslund. I'm sure LE had to conduct an exhaustive, painstaking investigation into who was driving that work van during the period of time that AJ went missing. Well, here's a clue: Whoever it was often parked it at WH's residence when not in use.

(That's quite a stumper.)

 

[Ontario Mom]

Oh, right, Mr. Korslund. I'm sure LE had to conduct an exhaustive, painstaking investigation into who was driving that work van during the period of time that AJ went missing. Well, here's a clue: Whoever it was often parked it at WH's residence when not in use.

(That's quite a stumper.)

He's just playing the whole "reasonable doubt" thing because it wasn't actually owned by WH like the phone is. Except, no one's going to buy it. In fact, I'm sure even he doesn't buy it. And for those who may find it a little off that the original article didn't name LE sources for this GPS info:

NewsChannel 3 contacted the Norfolk Police Department for a comment to this story. Public affairs Officer Melinda Wray sent this statement:

"The Norfolk Police Department wants to ensure the public that Anjelica's case is both active and open. Norfolk detectives have been and will continue to pursue each and every lead presented. NPD remains committed to providing Anjelica and her family the justice they deserve, and the department's work is not complete until that day comes."

(from the link above)

If the GPS information wasn't accurate, I'm pretty sure the public affairs officer Melinda Wray would not have made that statement.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I guess I was thinking that the van supposedly passed the LE search without any charges coming from it. We do not know this from a media or LE report (do we?); TGB told us so here in the forum. So I was thinking that if the van cleared the search, she must not have been in the van; I was thinking that she must have been taken there some other way - thus my thinking that it was the late night drive up by the Dodge Caravan (if the witness is correct about that) when her body was delivered to that location.

But that doesn't really make sense if I consider things I've "learned" from LE via some podcasts. I listened obsessively to the Serial podcast last year, and this year I have been listening to the Undisclosed podcast and the Truth and Justice podcast, which continue looking at the case. To discuss Adnan Syed's case here would be WAY off topic. But one thing I have heard several times by LE on these podcasts is that a person who knows the person he/she killed (or was involved with their death) is much more likely to a) put as much distance between themselves and the victim as quickly as possible and b) cover up or hide the body. A killer who does not know the victim is less likely to do either of these things.

So you are probably correct. He moved AJ's body to the back of the abandoned house as soon as he could. Probably the morning of March 3. Now, about his work van. Not to be too graphic, but let's just assume that AJ's body was intact and not leaking bodily fluids, blood, etc... Could he transport her in the van, then wipe down and vacuum the van, and LE would find NOTHING? To me, it seems that if LE had found DNA or something belonging to AJ, WH would have been named a suspect in her death, no questions asked. How easy is it to wipe the trace of someone away after they have been in your vehicle?

:ditto: That's what makes me think she wasn't in the hotel or the van. If she was or rather if they had found something linking her, especially after she was found... wouldn't you expect him to be charged with something connected to her?
Especially his work van if its true about the GPS.

With the Manner of Death undetermined, that would keep them from being able to charge with murder. Unsure on other charges.

There was a case in Arkansas back in 1987 where 2 boys (Kevin Ives and Don Henry) were killed. At first it was said they smoked pot and fell asleep on the tracks and train ran over them. Later after the parents fought hard it was found that they were murdered. Its believed by many they saw something they shouldn't have and were killed for it. Made me think of AJ. Wondering if she saw something she shouldn't have and that is what happened. With all the drug stories we have seen from that area and the recent warrant (still showing outstanding) maybe the LEO have something more they are looking at. I know in the Ives/Henry case they finally got their MOD changed to Homicide. LOTS of corruption in that case...Google their names I sure there is probably even thread here at WS. Boys on the Tracks ..http://unsolved.com/archives/don-henry-kevin-ives Just thinking out loud..

 

[Ontario Mom]

:ditto: That's what makes me think she wasn't in the hotel or the van. If she was or rather if they had found something linking her, especially after she was found... wouldn't you expect him to be charged with something connected to her?
Especially his work van if its true about the GPS.

I'm truly puzzled. Do you think the news station was lying about the GPS tracking of his work van?

 

[Ontario Mom]

I guess this explains WHY I feel out in left field picking daisies about a lot of comments here on WS. I avoided CH and her web site after two visits way back at the beginning of this case...hadn't heard of her before and I certainly do not regret my ignorance of her and her idiocy. I will gladly continue to be in the dark about what lies and half-truths she puts out there and stick to the balanced, level-headed folks here

This is a really good example of why SM isn't considered a reliable source, or quote-able here. In this particular case it's pretty cut-throat nasty, but I've seen the same thing in many other cases as well. In the Bella Grogan-Canella case it was utterly insane, and I followed it, until I couldn't stand it anymore. In the Kyrian Knox case, it's still going on and is just as mind-boggling. I can't even follow the SM on that one, no one can spell to save their life and they use so much slang I feel like they're all from another planet (or I am, I haven't decided which).

He said/she said, and he said/he said/she said, and F bomb this and vile accusation that, and on and on it goes. I'm really glad that stuff isn't to be posted here but I think family/friends of the victims in these cases don't realize HOW MANY PEOPLE are reading everything they're saying. Including LE, journalists, and people all over the world (literally) following these cases, hoping for justice. Maybe in some cases they do know everyone's reading and this is their narcissistic way of getting their 15 minutes of digital fame. Who knows, it's hard to tell.

I'm just grateful for the rules here at WS (even when I accidentally break them sometimes :blushing: )

 

[NWLady]

This is a really good example of why SM isn't considered a reliable source, or quote-able here. In this particular case it's pretty cut-throat nasty, but I've seen the same thing in many other cases as well. In the Bella Grogan-Canella case it was utterly insane, and I followed it, until I couldn't stand it anymore. In the Kyrian Knox case, it's still going on and is just as mind-boggling. I can't even follow the SM on that one, no one can spell to save their life and they use so much slang I feel like they're all from another planet (or I am, I haven't decided which).

He said/she said, and he said/he said/she said, and F bomb this and vile accusation that, and on and on it goes. I'm really glad that stuff isn't to be posted here but I think family/friends of the victims in these cases don't realize HOW MANY PEOPLE are reading everything they're saying. Including LE, journalists, and people all over the world (literally) following these cases, hoping for justice. Maybe in some cases they do know everyone's reading and this is their narcissistic way of getting their 15 minutes of digital fame. Who knows, it's hard to tell.

I'm just grateful for the rules here at WS (even when I accidentally break them sometimes :blushing: )

Well said, Ontario Mom, about the SM, and just jumping off your post. What I find so disturbing is individuals airing their dirty laundry against each other on SM, especially when they are adults and the drama involves *others* who have no control over the situations that are taking place (due to their ages, etc).

IMO it's obvious AJ was surrounded by nothing but drama in her family life, probably the majority of her life, things that she herself had no control over, and now there are others who are having to endure the same types of drama which they have no control over. AJ losing her life is not a game. It shouldn't be about the drama. So adults should act like adults and at least try to take some responsibility for what is going on in their lives and others around them, instead of adding more fuel to the fire by airing their dirty laundry and problems with one another per SM for the whole world to see. I have to wonder...is this their way of seeking attention? Is it some type of distraction? Is it one trying to blame the other? OR is it just their way of life and they know no other way? Whatever their reasons may mean, IMO it's sickening and does nothing in the fight for Justice For AJ. How can it when it's bringing others into the situation and causing them undue stress which could last a lifetime! Haven't they been traumatized enough by what has happened?! There comes a time when people need to AT LEAST try to get along because that is what is best for all those involved. Put your differences aside, try to make the best of the situation at hand, instead of pulling apart and ruining the lives of others who are innocently involved. But yet the drama continues and then they complain of the problems that come about because of it! It is just so upsetting when you stop and really think about how this is negatively affecting others that are no doubt enduring a lot of the same drama that AJ may very well have had to endure herself for the majority of her short life, which in the end, may very well have likely played a role in her demise.

AJ's body was found behind an abandoned house. Her life ended way too young.

 

[Museumgirl]

But that doesn't really make sense if I consider things I've "learned" from LE via some podcasts. I listened obsessively to the Serial podcast last year, and this year I have been listening to the Undisclosed podcast and the Truth and Justice podcast, which continue looking at the case. To discuss Adnan Syed's case here would be WAY off topic. But one thing I have heard several times by LE on these podcasts is that a person who knows the person he/she killed (or was involved with their death) is much more likely to a) put as much distance between themselves and the victim as quickly as possible and b) cover up or hide the body. A killer who does not know the victim is less likely to do either of these things.

O/T a bit, but I too am a listener of those podcasts & all through Jim Clemente's interview I thought of AJ & what he was saying in relation to her body concealment. I even came here and started to try & put it in a post, but punked out (I'm very new to WS & it's taking me awhile to get up to speed with the rules & figuring out what people are alluding to that can't be mentioned here)

 

[hey-Debbie]

I was reading this article again and am confused on what they are saying is the 2nd count. Is that the charge involving the ammunition found in the hotel room?
"According to Keith Kimball, his federal defense attorney, Hadsell plans to plead guilty to the purchase and possession of ammunition from the 2013 incident. This will be part of a plea agreement, Kimball says, where the second count of possession will be dismissed. The plea agreement hearing is scheduled for November 6th."

http://wtkr.com/2015/10/27/recent-indictment-shows-new-details-in-wesley-hadsell-case/

 

[Pisces22]

Good, yes, I agree this sounds corect with what me know. Now, can we factor in the black/blue Dodge Caravan that was supposedly seen pulling into the driveway and around back, turning off the lights? I know that witnesses are often quite off on times, but neighbor said he saw this 3-4 weeks before April 10. http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news...s-at-home-where-human-remains-found/25573359/

Couldn't it just as easily been 5 weeks, which puts it around March 3? For some reason I always imagined that this was when he/they dropped AJ's body - with this vehicle ... i.e. The Gps data shows he drove past then back to the house - maybe checking it out as a possible dump site, he tossed the phone, and later he comes back in the Dodge caravan and hides AJ's body behind the house. If this Dodge Caravan is related to AJ's case, who owns it? When that interview hit the air on April 10, did anyone realize/recall that WH had borrowed a Dodge Caravan? Or is the Dodge Caravan a total red herring and unrelated, or did it exist at all? Argh so frustrating.

Assuming that AJ's body was taken to the vacant house in the work truck and being supported by the GPS tracking. I think it's entirely possible that WH may have returned to the vacant house to retrieve her jacket once he heard about the "creepy" text messages and had the epiphany of doing a B&E to frame CF and needed something to plant there. This would likely have occurred between the AM of March 3 & the B&E on March 6 based on our recent presumptions. This would make the use of a borrowed/rented vehicle necessary to reach the Franklin house more likely (his previously accessible vehicles were likely with the police at that point). So this green/blue/dark Dodge Caravan may or may not be a red herring based on that thought pattern.

At this point I presume his work truck had voluntarily been handed over to LE by the business. It's likely WH's employer was cooperative in granting search and providing info on the truck and the company's GPS, work site history, etc.. It's unlikely that LE needed or obtained any search warrants for that evidence. At that point the red truck would likely have already been obtained for search by LE and I suspect WH and/or JH gave permission to LE to search and collect evidence from it too. It would have been highly suspicious to report your daughter missing and not provide them access to the vehicle she was reportedly given access to drive. Even is WH was the owner of record w/ the DMV for the red truck (seems to be the case based on WH's letter to Mom from jail), JH would still have had authority as the wife of WH to grant LE access/permission to search the vehicle. This likely happened the night the MPR was filed on 3/3.

Also, IIRC the home office of WH's employer is in Chesapeake so it's possible he was in that area at some point to return the work vehicle. (http://qualityplumbingandmechanical.com) I suspect police probably worked with his employer to orchestrate a casual request for WH to bring the work truck to the home office since he would be off a few days with the family crisis, etc. LE likely did NOT want WH to be too alarmed by their desire to search the work truck and probably tried to make that a low key transfer of the work truck to police for evidence gathering purposes. I suspect WH knew that was his last opportunity to toss AJ's clothing before he would likely not have his own access to a vehicle. He had to toss what was left of AJ's possessions before someone found out he had them so they were haphazardly tossed along Battlefield. (See SBHack's Map & Timeline - Search Area March 21 approx.: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z5lb-Hs-z9os.k8mN8xfP-540)

In the first JFisher jailhouse interview he mentioned that the tip call they received about the clothing was from a woman on her way home from work that noticed some clothing that had been on the side of the road for a few weeks in that area. WH and crew show up and viola...AJ's clothes are discovered (now confirmed as AJ's in LE/court documents). Keep in mind this tip was apparently on 3/19 if I'm not mistaken (one day before the arrest for WH's interfering & police continued to search that weekend in the Battlefield wooded area) and several weeks after the MPR on 3/3. That would make some sense of his word salad mentioning the tipster claimed the clothes were on the roadside there for a few weeks. At this point the B&E had occurred and WH had become frustrated with LE not falling hook, line and sinker for his jacket planting, etc. and he was by his own admission irritated with LE not sharing evidence and information with him. He was becoming more desperate to deter the investigation from him and that's when he made up this call in "tip". Which he then deleted from his call log conveniently. (Did he really think anyone was going to believe that was the truth?) I think he knew he was being watched and could probably tell the "crew" was no longer entirely trusting him. Internally he was going into full self preservation mode while still trying to play it cool on the outside.

I also suspect that if he had to move AJ's body into a vehicle she was likely covered in something, be it a blanket, tarp, plastic sheeting, etc. and if she was placed in any vehicle wrapped in something of that nature it is entirely possible any trace of her remained with that wrapping and wasn't evident in the vehicle after she was removed. But as I mentioned if there was no search warrant required LE would not have had to file a court document on their findings resulting from the search...correct?

All IMO but it seems LE may very well have A LOT of information and evidence that they didn't have to file a court document to obtain. IMO the MOD is the hangup/delay here but the wheels of justice are turning I think.

#Justice4AJ

 

[katydid23]

An electrician's work van is full of tarps, plastic coverings, duct tape, large containers, solvents, cleaning products, gloves....everything a motivated perp would need to transport evidence and a body. And AJ was not bleeding and wounded. She may have even been unconscious or comatose most of the time. :cry:

He had plenty of time to clean out the van and get it ready for the cops.

 

[Happyshoes]

I was reading this article again and am confused on what they are saying is the 2nd count. Is that the charge involving the ammunition found in the hotel room?
"According to Keith Kimball, his federal defense attorney, Hadsell plans to plead guilty to the purchase and possession of ammunition from the 2013 incident. This will be part of a plea agreement, Kimball says, where the second count of possession will be dismissed. The plea agreement hearing is scheduled for November 6th."


http://wtkr.com/2015/10/27/recent-indictment-shows-new-details-in-wesley-hadsell-case/

Yes, the second count is for the ammo found in the motel room. The 2013 charge is from him at the driving range with AJ. I am kind of surprised they are dropping the second count. The obstruction charges were dropped along with the B&E, so what's left? Will he go straight to jail on November 6th?

 

[jnblsm]

O/T a bit, but I too am a listener of those podcasts & all through Jim Clemente's interview I thought of AJ & what he was saying in relation to her body concealment. I even came here and started to try & put it in a post, but punked out (I'm very new to WS & it's taking me awhile to get up to speed with the rules & figuring out what people are alluding to that can't be mentioned here)

You can always message a Mod if you're unsure. Or do what some of us do: Throw your theory or question out and see if it sticks. A lot of times, some of what you post will be edited, but some might stay. The part that stays just might prompt others to expound. My point is, all ideas and theories are welcome. Don't be afraid to jump in. If it's out of our TOS, it won't stay.
(Sh, but it hurt my feelings the first time I had something wiped. Don't take it personally[emoji12])

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