What did she buy at Target and How did she do it?

[MysticOne]

I'm not sure exactly when she had taken the $4000...but she did come up somehow with a phony deposit slip as "proof" she had returned it. How she got the money in the first place is still a mystery to me (or my brain is fried and I simply can't remember!). Any help with that would be appreciated. TIA

GA made a vague reference to the fact that he remembered the amount because it was exactly the amount he got when he sold his car. IIRC, he never came right out that was were the money came from, just that he remembered it was the amount he sold his car for. I just assumed (which is dangerous) that is where the money came from. Also, I recall something about the amount of $ 4,000 being taken from KC in a supposed holdup at Sports Authority when she was working there. Of course, GA found out later that she never worked there, so I assumed (again dangerous), that the two events were related. However, there was never a clear connection between the two that I recall.

 

[chckmate22]

Sorry about that.. link to check information Page 34

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2810988/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-005

Thanks for the link. I know her and JG were together but did you notice on page 35??? that she list JG as her spouse? this app is from 11/15/05 I find that odd and I also agree with another poster that NO WAY is that CA signature....

 

[MysticOne]

Thanks for the link. I know her and JG were together but did you notice on page 35??? that she list JG as her spouse? this app is from 11/15/05 I find that odd and I also agree with another poster that NO WAY is that CA signature....

I noticed she listed JG as spouse as well, and thought it odd. Didn't they only become engaged on New Years Day 2006? Therefore at the time she listed him as spouse, he was in reality just a boyfriend (and one who knew by then he was not the father of Caylee?)

I bet given the opportunity, she would have also listed TL as spouse on a rental application or the like. To me this says something (I don't know exactly what however) about her clingy personality.

 

[Sundance]

Don't forget--during this same timeframe, KC also got her hands on GA's $4,000 by faking a deposit slip to his bank account and keeping the money. Don't know whether the $4,000 was cash or a check; if the latter, she had to cash it or deposit it somewhere.

Hi Friday, IIRC I remember reading this money was money Cindy had loaned Casey over a period of several weeks because Casey was having some kind of supposed trouble with her 'payroll checks'. The deposit was supposed to pay Cindy back, but she faked the deposit slip and then skated until Cindy had checks start bouncing. That's when she told them about being 'robbed' at Sports Authority.

I don't have a link handy and I am in a rush, but I am pretty sure this about sums it up.

 

[Capri]

Has anyone seen this? Look at pages 36 to 41. Do ya think that CA's signature? http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2810988/...sed-Nov-26-005
I think there's alot we don't know about Miss KC yet!:furious:

Looks like KC's handwriting, certainly. It appears that KC was well aquainted with Amscot and forging checks there.

Did anyone else notice on the application card for check cashing, in the "spouse" line, KC wrote JG's name...hmmm

 

[Capri]

From the same doc, any ideas on what those large amt. checks are ... "Sunshine Restaurants" ? I googled and found out Sunshine Restaurants is I-Hop. It's right around the same pages as the Amscot Checks cashed.(pg.40-ish) Wasn't one of her friends working at IHop?

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2810988/...sed-Nov-26-005

 

[countzero]

From the same doc, any ideas on what those large amt. checks are ... "Sunshine Restaurants" ? I googled and found out Sunshine Restaurants is I-Hop. It's right around the same pages as the Amscot Checks cashed.(pg.40-ish) Wasn't one of her friends working at IHop?

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2810988/...sed-Nov-26-005

If you look at the phone numbers, they match the preceding page and that CMA that is NOT our miss CA. This was discussed early on IIRC.

 

[crete110]

On that same link, page 34 where it gives a summary from Amscot, it looks like from 1/31 - 2/08 Casey cashed 3 checks from Cindy. Then on 2/09, she goes to a different Amscot location to try and cash another one for $200. I wonder if she got declined or knew not to push her luck at her normal store so she thought she could try it at a different one.

And maybe it's just me, but does anyone else find it weird that Cindy would make a check out to her daughter and write "Casey M. Anthony"? Why the need for a middle initial? Maybe since it was KC who actually wrote it and she was focusing on signing her mothers name - Cynthia M. Anthony - she did it without thinking?

 

[crete110]

Again, same link - page 44. This appears to be Cindy's application and/or customer file for Amscot which was setup/changed on 02/20/2007 but note the information.

Address: An apartment on Rivertree Circle.
DOB: 09/22/1980
Employer: IHOP

Am I missing something or did she possibly have and ID with Cindy's name so she could forge these checks?

 

[Intermezzo]

OK, here you go, from the Fraud documents:

7/08/08 Check #142 to Target in Orlando for $111.01
7/10/08 Check #143 to Target in Winter Garden FL for $137.77
7/10/08 Check #144 to Target in Orlando for $155.47
7/12/08 Check #145 to WinnDixie for $92.62
7/15/08 Check #146 to Casey Anthony for $250
Electronic Check presented for payment on 7/19/08 to AT&T in the amount of $574

(And remember, I don't remember which interview, but someone else here will, LH said that the cell phone records only went up until July 8, 2008, because her phone was cut off for non-payment in the amount of $574.)

All these checks were on AH's BOA (Bank of America) account, and OCSO LE were given the checks, the cashier's tape, the receipt for items purchased, video tape and photos.

Checks 143 and 144 had CaseyA's name and signature on them and a Florida DL was captured on the back of the checks, which belongs to CaseyA. Along with the checks, receipts, video tape and photos, sworn statements by the cashiers who conducted these transactions were also attached to the report.

Check 146 was made out to Casey Anthony and was cashed at the BOA.

:::shakes head is disbelief::: She is a piece of work. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Be good to one another,
Sundance

For anyone who wishes to refresh their memory for when the check fraud case comes to trial in the next 90days (I hope)

 

[Intermezzo]

July 8 @ 11:59 AM

*- - - - - VERSION 000.025.416 - - - - *
07/08/08 1760 0095 8514 BEG:11:59 AM
RECEIPT ID# 2-8190-1760-0095-8514-1
R-EMP# 29921459 (SALE)
001:S253030055 BOUNTY BASIC 6.00 T
002:S270050029 EGGO 2.94 FN
003:S203600006 ZEPHYR PIPO 4.99 FN
004:S284020008 MP SKIM MILK 3.79 FN
005:S203140377 WELCHS 2.69 FN
006:S203140378 WELCHS 2.69 FN
007:S284100047 YOPLAIT 8PK 4.49 FN
008:S284110141 KRAFT 2.89 FN
009:S210011293 MP LNCHMTTUB 3.29 FN
010:S037130060 JERGENS 3.44 T
011:S270000483 GREEN GIANT 2.89 FN
012:S270000381 GREEN GIANT 2.89 FN
013:S270010087 ORE IDA 2.00 *FN
014:S270010084 ORE IDA 2.00 *FN
015:S284110616 MP DELI CHSE 2.99 FN
016:S231030109 MP PNCK SYRP 1.59 FN
017:S261020199 MCCORMICK 1.62 FN
018:S261020014 MP SPICES 0.84 FN
019:S212040020 KC MASTERPC 1.52 FN
020:S212400318 CLASSICO 2.14 FN
021:S212020014 JIF 3.00 *FN
022:S212262000 PACE SALSA 3.00 FN
023:S261040288 BISQUICK 2.64 FN
024:S212380135 MUELLER 2.04 FN
025:S212380136 MUELLER 2.04 FN
026:S284010034 CRUZ 1.79 FN
027:S071050759 SUNCHIPS 3.00 FN
028:S071050737 RUFFLES 2.50 *FN
029:S071050737 RUFFLES 2.50 *FN
030:S234241063 STORAGE 1.00 T
031:S234241063 STORAGE 1.00 T
032:S063042963 GOODY 2.99 T
033:S003080544 ARM N HAMMER 3.24 T
034:K267034045 CHERRIES 4.49 FN
034:K267034045 CHERRIES 9.16 *FN
2.04 LBS @ 4.49/LB
035:S211170015 3LB RED SZ B 2.99 FN
036:S211214070 CELERY 1.69 FN
037:S268020018 GROUND ROUND 3.59 FN
038:S266080005 1LB STRAW 2.00 *FN
039:S266080005 1LB STRAW 2.00 *FN

SUBTOTAL 109.86
T = FL TAX6.5000% ON 17.67 1.15
TOTAL 111.01
042: CHECK PAYMENT 111.01
*APPROVED* RC=01
042: CHECK PAYMENT 111.01
MICR # T063000047T 005491737877A 0142
FL 2 (S) A535113865990
*APPROVED* RC=1 AUTH=3

MGS HDR/MODE/DLVR/ACPT/CMPG:00843/07/Y/N/19
END OF TRANSACTION #8514 END:12:03 PM
39888 165137 105563 5866 22342



Target 2032 Winter Park July 10 2008 @ 10:33 AM

*- - - - - VERSION 000.025.105 - - - - *
07/10/08 2032 0078 3721 BEG:10:33 AM
RECEIPT ID# 2-8192-2032-0078-3721-2
R-EMP# 49010077 (SALE)
001:S077143049 XHIL GANESA 9.99 T
002:S061030202 BERET 9.99 T
003:S090010727 XHIL PLASTIC 9.99 T
004:S023030816 XHIL MESHBRA 6.48 T
005:S023045529 GOM DEMI BRA 5.48 T
006:S014114093 BC FLAP VNTG 11.48 T
007:S202042025 FEB08 XHIL 3.99 T
008:S016099797 MS PIQU POLO 6.98 T
009:S020112968 XHIL CHEMISE 10.48 T
010:S020112968 XHIL CHEMISE 10.48 T
010:S020112968 *VOID LINE* 10.48-* T
011:S020112963 XHIL CAMI 10.48 T
012:S013040328 MB JACKET 13.98 T
013:S018037335 MOSS HOODIE 9.98 T
014:S018037224 MOSS JRSYPNT 12.58 T
015:S015011857 MB SQUR PULL 7.48 T
SUBTOTAL 129.36
T = FL TAX6.5000% ON 129.36 8.41
TOTAL 137.77
018: CHECK PAYMENT 137.77
*APPROVED* RC=01
018: CHECK PAYMENT 137.77
MICR # T063000047T 005491737877A 0143
FL 2 (S) A535113865990
*APPROVED* RC=1 AUTH=3

STORE SURVEY PRINTED
END OF TRANSACTION #3721 END:10:36 AM
37734 46602 47263 -15050 13777


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TARGET July 10 2008 @ 12:00 PM

07/10/08 1760 0078 9694 BEG:12:00 PM
RECEIPT ID# 2-8192-1760-0078-9694-2
R-EMP# 32904617 (SALE)
001:S288071336 POPSICLE 2.19 FT
002:S288071336 POPSICLE 2.19 FT
003:S270050029 EGGO 2.94 FN
004:S210010869 HILLSHRE TKY 3.49 FN
005:S210010869 HILLSHRE TKY 3.49 FN
006:S210050010 TYSON FAM PK 8.49 FN
007:S210050009 IQF BUF STRP 8.49 FN
008:S284110518 KRAFT 4.99 FN
009:S284110669 MP CHEESE 2.04 FN
010:S284110631 MP CHEESE 2.04 FN
011:S284110616 MP DELI CHSE 2.99 FN
012:S212140042 KRAFT 3.59 FN
013:S212140100 IDAHOAN 1.02 FN
014:S212140100 IDAHOAN 1.02 FN
015:S212140100 IDAHOAN 1.02 FN
016:S231190139 DEL MONTE 0.87 FN
017:S225033538 MP HAMB BUN 1.99 FN
018:S225033539 MP HAMB BUNS 1.99 FN
019:S225033032 AF BREAD 3.69 FN
020:S284040567 MINUTE MAID 1.47 FT
021:S284040542 MINUTE MAID 1.47 FT
022:S284040565 MINUTE MAID 1.47 FT
023:S284040549 MINUTE MAID 2.54 FN
024:S284030158 MP EGGS 2.39 FN
025:S284000106 PILLSBURY 2.39 FN
026:S284100142 YOPLAIT 8PK 4.49 FN
027:S211150002 BOLTHOUSE 1.50 *FN
028:S211150002 BOLTHOUSE 1.50 *FN
029:K267034045 CHERRIES 4.49 FN
029:K267034045 CHERRIES 9.11 *FN
2.03 LBS @ 4.49/LB
030:S266080007 2LB STRAW 3.99 *FN
031:K224214062 CUCUMBER 0.89 FN
032:S288030230 CALIFORNIA 5.54 FN
033:S094020701 NAT MADE 60C 4.99 N
034:S094030352 SUDAFED 18CT 4.44 N
035:S094030299 MUCINEX 20CT 9.39 N
036:S063043920 CONAIR 1.49 T
037:S093095714 XHIL NETRI 6.48 T
038:S016018336 ME SHRD TEE 6.98 T
039:S213030110 BUD LIGHT 13.99 T
MSG: CNTL SUBST: DT TIME
MSG: CNTL SUBST: SELL AGE
CASHIER BIRTHDATE: 05/16/1985
MSG: CNTL SUBST: GUEST ID
GUEST BIRTHDATE: 03/19/1986
042:S213050004 JW DUNDEES 7.49 T
MSG: CNTL SUBST: DT TIME
MSG: CNTL SUBST: SELL AGE
CASHIER BIRTHDATE: 05/16/1985
MSG: CNTL SUBST: GUEST ID
SUBTOTAL 152.53
T = FL TAX6.5000% ON 45.22 2.94
TOTAL 155.47
-------------------------------------------
HEALTH TOTAL 13.83
-------------------------------------------
046: CHECK PAYMENT 155.47
046: CHECK PAYMENT 155.47
MICR # T063000047T 005491737877A 0144
2 (S) A535113865990
*APPROVED* RC=1 AUTH=3

END OF TRANSACTION #9694 END:12:04 PM

Nope, I don't see anything for little Caylee.

Thanks

 

[Intermezzo]

I found this thread on "What did she buy at Target with the stolen checks?" http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70263&highlight=target

You might also want to read pages 2 and 3 of Fraud case document found here: http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2008/1008/17656080.pdf

For at least one of the Target trips, she presented her OWN identification. I believe that information is on page 2/3 of the above document.

However, on page 15 of that same document, in a sworn statement, one of the cashier ADMITS she failed to verify that the identification MATCHED the name on the check. Casey presented her own identification and that identification was captured on the back of the check. If you check page 72, it shows a picture of one of the cashiers swiping her id. I'm not sure if it the same cashier from the incident with check #142.

Also see page 22 of the same document. That cashier said she did not remember the transaction due to the number of customers she attended to that day. Once again, Casey's identification was captured on the back of the check.

In my assessment of this information, it seems as though these cashiers were negligent in comparing her identification with the checks...IMO as usual

I hope this helps...

Thanks for the links

 

[Intermezzo]

(Respectfully snipped)

cecybeans, I got you covered. Here you go:


From Amy’s statement dated 7/29/08:
Orange County Sheriff's Office (Case 08-074939)

Date of Statement; 07/29/08 04:30
Offense: Uttering a forged Instrument
Date of Offense; 07/08/08
Subject; Casey M Anthony
Location; 325 N Alafaya Bv, Orlando FL 32828

H*, Amy J. Age 24 DOB: 07/**/84 WF
**** NW 78th Ave, Plantation FL 33322
Phone: ***-***-****
Business Address: **** E Colonial Drive, Orlando, FL

I, Amy H* do hearby voluntarily make the following statement without threat, coercion, offer of benefit or favor by any persons whomsoever.

On July 8th, 2008 I lent Casey Anthony my 1997 Red Toyota Corolla. She had told me that her car was in the shop after she had run out of gas due to a faulty gas gauge for the second time in two weeks. I needed a ride to the airport early that morning so I told her the perfect solution would be for her to drive me to the airport in my car and then she would have a car for the week I was gone.

I have known Casey since New Years Eve. I was away working on a cruise ship for 6 months and when I came back she was a part of our group of friends. She became friends with everyone shortly after I left on the ship. Once I came back she was our friend, so she was my friend.

We became close fast, mainly talking about normal girl things, life, love, family. She has a 2 year old daughter who she spoke of often and whom I loved and looked forward to every time we had together. We were planning on moving in together (all of which was actually a lie and a really long story), so I was lending my car to one of my close girl friends and the girl I was planning on moving in with.

Casey dropped me off at the airport at approx 6:30am and left in my car. She had her own key because I have a very bad problem with locking my keys in my car, all my good friend have one so they can bail me out. I had my own set with me that came with me to Puerto Rico.

I was gone for a week, I used only cash while gone to make sure I didn't spend too much money. I talked to Casey maybe 3 times while I was gone and texted her a few times on top of that (all my texts from that time are already in the possession of the Orange County Sheriff's Department).

She came to pick me up at 2:30pm on July 15th, 2008. She met us (my other traveling companions) at the terminal and then went with us to pick up our bags. We would not all fit in my car with our bags so I drove Casey back to her boyfriend's house near Full Sail and drove back to the airport to pick up the rest of my friends.

We then came back to our place and I left promptly with one of my roommates to go to the Florida Mall to get him an IPhone.

Shortly after I arrived there I was phoned by Cindy Anthony (Casey's mother) who was looking for her daughter. She convinced me that Casey was in trouble and would go to jail if she didn't find her. Cindy had not seen Casey or her granddaughter Caylee in a month, and she told me that she had just gotten Casey's car out of impound that morning where it had been for over two weeks. Those were all contradictory to what Casey had told me. She offered to come out and get me so I could take her to Casey, and I accepted.

On the car ride to retrieve Casey and find her granddaughter I found out a lot about the person I thought I was very good friends with. She told me Casey had been stealing money from her for years and about all the lies she had been telling me and everyone really. They go deep and long, all the important lies have been documented already.

We retrieved a very unhappy Casey and they took me back to where I am staying. Once home I was hanging out with my roommate a bit and then the thought occurred to me that I should check my bank account. I did not know how she could possibly have gotten into my account, but what her mom told me about her hacking into her account over and over mad me want to just have that piece of mind.

I checked and my checking account was at 0.00. There were several checks written while I was gone, I then realized I had left my checkbook in my glove box so I can write checks to church (I tend to forget until halfway there). I knew immediately what had happened.

I called the bank, but their check fraud department is only open in the day (It was probably around 9ish now). Cindy Anthony called me at 11 pm to tell me that Caylee was missing and had been for a month. I told her Casey had emptied my account, which she asked Casey about, and she admitted to the fact that she had in front of her mother and police officers. I called Casey's boyfriend at some point that night (I don't remember If it was before or after Cindy Anthony's call) and he looked through Casey's stuff and found my checkbook.

The next day after getting bounced around a lot on the phone by the bank and filed my report of fraudulent checks and then went to the bank to close the account and open a new one. Some money was credited to me the next day, and the rest was credited to me within 6 days. The bank was very fast acting, which was wonderful since there was all this other stuff going on.

That day I also went to OPO to file my report, I gave them copies of everything the bank was able to give me, which I will be providing to the Sheriff's Department as well.

***END OF STATEMENT***


So there we are, there's how Amy discovered Casey had cleaned her out while she was gone.


To add insult to injury, AFTER Casey picked up Amy from the airport, Casey goes online to pay her $574 past due cell phone bill through an electronic draft on Amy's account. This was denied the next day due to insufficient funds.


This is in the Internet files from Casey's computer - the pages from AT&T were cached - IIRC.

Thanks, I don't remember ever reading or seeing this.

BBM
IMO Cindy's description of Mothers of the Year is someone who steals and hacks into bank accounts

 

[Intermezzo]

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quote]On the car ride to retrieve Casey and find her granddaughter I found out a lot about the person I thought I was very good friends with. She told me Casey had been stealing money from her for years and about all the lies she had been telling me and everyone really. They go deep and long, all the important lies have been documented already.

We retrieved a very unhappy Casey and they took me back to where I am staying. Once home I was hanging out with my roommate a bit and then the thought occurred to me that I should check my bank account. I did not know how she could possibly have gotten into my account, but what her mom told me about her hacking into her account over and over mad me want to just have that piece of mind.

I checked and my checking account was at 0.00. There were several checks written while I was gone, I then realized I had left my checkbook in my glove box so I can write checks to church (I tend to forget until halfway there). I knew immediately what had happened.

I called the bank, but their check fraud department is only open in the day (It was probably around 9ish now). Cindy Anthony called me at 11 pm to tell me that Caylee was missing and had been for a month. I told her Casey had emptied my account, which she asked Casey about, and she admitted to the fact that she had in front of her mother and police officers. I called Casey's boyfriend at some point that night (I don't remember If it was before or after Cindy Anthony's call) and he looked through Casey's stuff and found my checkbook.

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So there we are, there's how Amy discovered Casey had cleaned her out while she was gone.


To add insult to injury, AFTER Casey picked up Amy from the airport, Casey goes online to pay her $574 past due cell phone bill through an electronic draft on Amy's account. This was denied the next day due to insufficient funds.


This is in the Internet files from Casey's computer - the pages from AT&T were cached - IIRC.

Bold by me

A bit OT,but this jumped out at me,especially since CA made light of KC using her credit cards in the depo.I knew about KC hacking into the grandparent's bank account using an older check,but I didn't realize she had been hacking into CA's bank account.[/QUOTE]

BBM
Me either

 

[Intermezzo]

Has anyone seen this? Look at pages 36 to 41. Do ya think that CA's signature? http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2810988/...sed-Nov-26-005
I think there's alot we don't know about Miss KC yet!:furious:

Holy carp! Those Cindy checks look like definite forgeries. I'm going to look for Cindy's statement to LE for comparison.

PG. 29 -Casey's written statement
PG. 37- Cindy's written statement

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Casey Anthony discovery Pages 1-150.pdf

Forged for sure, IMO. $425 in February alone, and I wouldn't doubt that there are more where that came from.

Great Sleuthing
No chance of Cindy pressing charges if Casey forged checks from her account..

 

[Intermezzo]

Don't forget--during this same timeframe, KC also got her hands on GA's $4,000 by faking a deposit slip to his bank account and keeping the money. Don't know whether the $4,000 was cash or a check; if the latter, she had to cash it or deposit it somewhere.

I forgot about GA and the fake bank slip

 

[Intermezzo]

Wow-I did forget about that! I hope LE has put a financial timeline together to show just how she lived off the unsuspecting people in her world. I think that's another reason KC went and found new friends-she had basically gotten as far as she could with her family. George put a lock on his gas cans and Cindy probably found a new spot to hide her checks. So, KC HAD to cast her net wider.

BBM
I'd like to see that too

 

[mydailyopinions]

Not sure if this has been discussed or not, but I wonder if LE was able to determine that the paper towels shown on the receipts match the ones found in the trunk with decomp on them>?

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

Not sure if this has been discussed or not, but I wonder if LE was able to determine that the paper towels shown on the receipts match the ones found in the trunk with decomp on them>?

That's a GREAT thought...but didn't KC go on her grocery shopping sprees to Target after Caylee was assumed to be deceased? Although I can't quite remember when her first receipt was from....old age...:crazy: Although, she was also probably STILL cleaning the trunk long after Caylee was removed.

 

[LambChop]

Not sure if this has been discussed or not, but I wonder if LE was able to determine that the paper towels shown on the receipts match the ones found in the trunk with decomp on them>?

The Target receipts are for July. KC's car was towed from Amscot on June 30th.