what is casey holding over her parents heads ?

[SWEETSPYRIT]

The only thing left that KC has over GA and CA is Caylee's remains and those she has given to JB. Somehow I don't think that KC will ever give her parents that release. IMHO it will be her last thing she can "hold" over them. She knows how much it will hurt CA to not be able to lay Caylee to rest. It was beyond obvious with her "gettig frustrated" and saying "My life has been taken away" that was KC's way of telling CA "see what you made me do"!!!!

 

[minazoe]

The only thing left that KC has over GA and CA is Caylee's remains and those she has given to JB. Somehow I don't think that KC will ever give her parents that release. IMHO it will be her last thing she can "hold" over them. She knows how much it will hurt CA to not be able to lay Caylee to rest. It was beyond obvious with her "gettig frustrated" and saying "My life has been taken away" that was KC's way of telling CA "see what you made me do"!!!!

Right on...so well put.

 

[jujube]

Casey did hold Caylee over her parents' heads. Now she holds their love over their heads.
I hope that none of us in ever in this position because DANG on the intense dislike shown to CA's parents. Even most serial killer's families and best friends many times are shocked when they find out about the crimes. Cindy and George, in my opinion, never knew what they had conceived-a manipulative brat-yes- a possible murderess-no.

I try to put myself in CA's shoes because I'm a mother who dearly loves her kids. Cindy's mind must reel. I bet she doesn't want to wake up in the morning. Can you imagine the pain she lives with everyday?? I can't. Then not only is her daughter suspected of murdering her granddaughter but it gets international press and the press makes she and George look like idiots. I think Cindy has had a meltdown. Her brain cannot process that the daughter she has loved is capable of murder.

I hope that they get counseling and can live the rest of their lives in relative peace. My heart breaks for them.

 

[LLH]

Remember all these videos were taken way back in july and august.. at which time Casey did hold information they needed and wanted desperately. At this point, I dont think she holds anything at all over them. Skeletons in the closet couldnt compare to what has happened, no matter how Casey twists it.

 

[LLH]

Casey did hold Caylee over her parents' heads. Now she holds their love over their heads.
I hope that none of us in ever in this position because DANG on the intense dislike shown to CA's parents. Even most serial killer's families and best friends many times are shocked when they find out about the crimes. Cindy and George, in my opinion, never knew what they had conceived-a manipulative brat-yes- a possible murderess-no.

I try to put myself in CA's shoes because I'm a mother who dearly loves her kids. Cindy's mind must reel. I bet she doesn't want to wake up in the morning. Can you imagine the pain she lives with everyday?? I can't. Then not only is her daughter suspected of murdering her granddaughter but it gets international press and the press makes she and George look like idiots. I think Cindy has had a meltdown. Her brain cannot process that the daughter she has loved is capable of murder.
I hope that they get counseling and can live the rest of their lives in relative peace. My heart breaks for them.

Good Post-but
The media didn't make them look like idiots, they did that themselves.

 

[Who_What_When]

I am amazed that there are so many mental health professionals on this website. I have read post after post of pschyobabble about the Anthony family and yet not one person on here has ever met them, has no idea what these people are like under normal circumstances let alone how they are reacting to this horrible ,gut wrenching ,heart breaking tragedy. The press is twisting every little bit of information they get from "sources close to the case", the police are releasing some interviews and not others. The public is eating it up and then putting their own spin on it and posting their opinions on message boards all over the internet as if they were FACTS. There are a lot of hateful ,hurtful statements being made about this family whose lives have been destroyed and then put on tv in newspapers and on the internet like some repulsive soap opera. The only FACTS that I know of in this case are that Caylee Marie Anthony is dead and her mother is accused of killing her.

I completely agree. I don't approve of some of their actions, but I can't find it in me to say that they are horrible people. I can't imagine what they must be going through, even if they brought some of it on themselves, they don't deserve some of the things being said about them. Long after this case is gone and forgotton about, we will move on but the Anthonys will be living it everyday. I can't see how anyone could say they know what they would do in this situation unless you were in it. IMO, if this was a close family member of mine and even if I knew deep down inside that they may have did it, if they kept feeding me little bits of information that could raise even the littlest of doubt that they were guilty, I too would want to explore the possibilty that they were innocent. It's easy for outsiders to say, "well they did it", but until this is your life and you are living through this nightmare, I don't see how it's possible to be 100% sure of what you would do. Of course I'd like to think I would see the truth, that I would openly offer incriminating evidence to the media, and just say "yes, my daughter killed my granddaughter", but we have no idea what they are going through and what stories they are being told to make them cling onto hope that their worse fears aren't true. JMO

 

[suejay40]

Sadly I believe KC is holding her daughter's remains over her parents heads. Unfortunately, she or Baez has control over them. I don't see her giving them up for burial just out of spite.

 

[radio]

Sadly I believe KC is holding her daughter's remains over her parents heads. Unfortunately, she or Baez has control over them. I don't see her giving them up for burial just out of spite.

As I understand it from NG - the prosecution has not completed the toxicology reports yet. The defense will then have to examine that piece as well.

 

[radio]

I am amazed that there are so many mental health professionals on this website. I have read post after post of pschyobabble about the Anthony family and yet not one person on here has ever met them, has no idea what these people are like under normal circumstances let alone how they are reacting to this horrible ,gut wrenching ,heart breaking tragedy. The press is twisting every little bit of information they get from "sources close to the case", the police are releasing some interviews and not others. The public is eating it up and then putting their own spin on it and posting their opinions on message boards all over the internet as if they were FACTS. There are a lot of hateful ,hurtful statements being made about this family whose lives have been destroyed and then put on tv in newspapers and on the internet like some repulsive soap opera. The only FACTS that I know of in this case are that Caylee Marie Anthony is dead and her mother is accused of killing her.

There are words for what you are describing, but I can't use them here in a public forum.

 

[athy]

i don't think casey has any deep dark secret over her parents. i do think from seeing cindy in action on tv and how shes told us and the media if we find caylee dead it will be our fault that casey and lee were both raised by a manipulative mom that used guilt. maybe she said while they were growing up...if we didn't have kids i could have been....(insert whatever) or perhaps she had trouble during pregnancy and she used the i almost died having you. i know she had to use something because casey had to have learned from someone to use manipulation and guilt to get what she wants. i just think that because of cindy and george's love (yes i do believe they really loved caylee) cindy had/has the upperhand with them.

 

[eddeva]

as i see it, the only thing they could want from her now is an explanation. i don't think cindy can grasp what casey is and why this happened, or maybe she just can't believe it. she must want an explanation and casey alone can supply that.

 

[essies]

as i see it, the only thing they could want from her now is an explanation. i don't think cindy can grasp what casey is and why this happened, or maybe she just can't believe it. she must want an explanation and casey alone can supply that.

ITA-However Cindy, and the rest of the world for that matter, will be waiting forever! KC will never give us or Cindy the truth. KC's story of Zanny is her story and she's sticking to it. She may embellish it by the time we get to trial so we will "underastand" it, but we will never hear the truth from her lips. I believe she is incapable of telling the truth and perhaps even believes her own lies. She out of all the A's could possibly pass a lie detector test!:bang:

 

[Brini]

seems she has something on them so they dance around trying to please her. What do you think it is ?

Her knowledge of what happened to Caylee.

 

[Brini]

They have walked on eggshells forever in fear of her explosive rages.

That, too.

 

[Brini]

2 things (or @ least 2 main reasons)

1. Caylee's paternity
2. they raised this crazy chick-i'm sure things happened in that home that could shock us. appearances are everything to these people although i'm not sure if the A's are too worried about their "secrets" anymore. anything we might learn @ trial will only solidify our thoughts.

Too late for A secrets. Their BIGGEST secret was that KC is a nasty little criminal sociopath.

 

[Brini]

I think we all have a suspicion. But, hey, that is an area that is banned for discussion for whatever reason. I think it is banned because it might be too close to home for some posters. But, that is not why we are here, is it? Aren't we here to discus ideas?

Absent that, I think we are seeing not only a pathological horror; I think we are seeing a harbinger of many to come. The tone of parents and children today is "I know my child and my child would not lie". If your child has a pulse .... . Schools are facing horrible problems dealing with this type of parents; parents now have defined "involvement" as "I know more than any educator ... because I went to school!"

I am telling you to get ready. Schools are seeing these enmeshed parents in multitudes. And they are afraid.

We don't ALL have a suspicion. Quite a few if us don't see any Gothic secrets.

But, yes. There ARE too many enmeshed parents. Ask me. I'm a psych nurse.

 

[Brini]

Casey did not complete HIGH SCHOOL. That is a major issue.

We don't really understand WHY she didn't finish high school (I have my
suspicions, but that is another thread).

Because she didn't finish high school....she couldn't get a decent job.
She felt worthy of a decent job..but employers aren't keen on people who don't
finish high school and for whatever reason she wouldn't get a GED (probably
self conscious about how having a GED makes one a "loser").

So...not only does she have the embarrassment of not graduating with her class, she can't get anything but a low wage job and THEN she gets pregnant too. She is so disturbed by this pregnancy thing she doesn't do anything about it..and finally Cindy catches on (in the 7th month!) and she proceeds to tell Casey what a screw up she is..etc etc.

Casey has a low paying job, no high school diploma, no steady boyfriend and her Mother INSISTS that she keep her "mistake".

From the age of when she should have graduated (17 or 18) to the age she is now (22) Casey has felt the normal natural urge to separate from her family. This is the job of all young adults..to separate from their parents. (Right, I know that she didn't deserve to separate from her parents, but she still likely wanted that). Certainly Casey saw all her young friends doing this and living on their own or with one another in roommate situations. The biggest trouble was that Casey was ill-equipped to support herself because she did not finish High School. The pregnancy that followed failing High School sealed her fate in the family as the "screw up". Young people who are very rebellious are doing the work of teenagers..they are doing their "job" of separating from their parents. Casey is no different than all young people in their desire to do this...but she had the extra feature of the baby that her Mother insisted that she keep.

Cindy "required" Casey to continue under Cindy's thumb..Cindy was so used to playing the martyr and "the boss", but Casey discovered how to be promiscuous and seized power in that way. The more Casey got tastes of "independent" living the more fed up she got with Cindy's rules. Casey didn't think that Cindy's rules should apply to her because she had moved into an "adult" world.

What Casey has over the Anthony's was:

1. (What they perceived as) the whereabouts of their Grandchild
2.
3. Youthful vigor and arrogance
4. A deep hatred (and give a **%t attitude) for her Mother (fueled by
the "requirement" to keep Caylee)

KC actually seems to want the STATUS of a good job, but doesn't want to do the WORK that prepares one for the job.

She lied about going to JC to get her "planning certificate," rather than actually registering and earning it.

And, she had the baby, because she was too lazy to get an abortion, of she wanted one. CA could not have "forced" her to bear Caylee. She could have got an abortion and lied to her family about having a "miscarriage." Also, if she wanted to adopt Caylee out, no one could have stopped her.

 

[Brini]

She was like a half a credit short of graduating. I could have sworn that she did wind up getting that half credit. I could be wrong, though.

My thinking about her pregnancy is this: she didn't want mom and dad to know. I think she was going to dump the baby in a dumpster after giving birth. She had no intention of keeping Caylee. So she kept the wool over CA's eyes as long as she could.

I think I read that your are right-- that she made up the half credit. She graduated, but not with her class.

 

[Brini]

Why does everyone think there some HUGE conspiracy? It's rather simple - Casey was a spoiled brat - the parents didn't parent - Casey killed Caylee because she hindered her lifestyle - parents still think the sun rises and sets on Casey no matter what

It's dysfunction at it's best - there is no conspiracy - no one is holding anything over anyone - it's plain and simple - Casey killed Caylee, had no help, no one knew about it, she's a liar and a manipulator and has been caught in her own web of lies

All this using neighbors names, mysterious language, etc. is ridiculous - she's a liar, and now is caught - albeit has been a good liar until she did the ultimate henious act and she can't lie her way out of it

I agree. No conspiracy. No "codes." She just blathers--there are no "messages." No Gothic secrets.

Worst problem and deepest (former) secret the family has is that KC is a dangerous sociopath.

 

[Brini]

No consequences for inappropriate behavior. Without consequences in life there is no order, justice or peace.

If I ever even TALKED to my parents the way KC was allowed to do, I'd STILL be picking my teeth up off the ground.