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Someone posted last night a news annoucement from the Diaz murder trial that Baez was working on when he took Casey on as a client.
{which I also wonder if Casey had seen or had maybe been following at the time?}

From the sounds of the complaints that were lodged, and remarks made in that article, Baez is going in for "second verse, same as the first".

Pointing blame at everyone but his client, grandstanding, with holding evidence, and, trying to blind slide the state.
It didn't work for the Diaz case, and, you'd think that he would change up his standard operating practice with this one, IMO.
 
1. Play dumb.

2. Be dumb but try to play smart at times where it will benefit your news value.

3. Obtain CDL for use associated with big buses or bulldozers.

4. Perfect the art of finger pointing. Yes finger pointing NOT finger painting.

5. Leave em wanting more.

6. Surround yourself with real smart people and then try to blend in with them.

7. Develop your signature speech cadence to allow for the random addition of big words. (do your best to use them in the appropriate context) A word of the day calendar could be a valuable investment.

8. Adopt the mantra......"pocket squares = power".

9. Negotiate, line up, solidify future media deals up front in case your marketability tanks before they come to fruition. If possible, record the agreement but don't put anything in writing.

10. Find a patsy to use and abuse but remain careful not to slander or libel them.

11. Whine and cry about everything. If you don't like it.....whine about it.

12. Create news where there is no news. Be sure to keep it "juicy and sexy".

13. Do minimal work and demand opposing counsel make it easy on you. Ask for EVERYTHING.

14. Make sure to explore all possible avenues that support reasonable doubt. In the case of no real and valid avenues of reasonable doubt......read Andrea Lyon's primer on "Creative Motions Practice". Find a way to tell your story. It doesn't have to be true...just an opportunity to tell what "could have happened".

15. Perfect the art of hand selecting your media darlings.

16. Ignore anyone that says anything you don't like and make petty jabs when needed. Remember to make sure that you are on video when offering these comments.

17. Surf the web and forums for more "witnesses".

18. Call into question EVERYONE except your client. Ask for forgiveness later.

19. Keep detailed notes of your own personal experience for book deals after trial.

20. Stare at the ceiling, fiddle with your tie, spin in your chair and tap your pen as opposed to having a full blown temper tantrum on TV. It will mess up your heavily gelled coif.

I'd like to add one if I may.

Only do your silly head sideways snap release when you absolutely have to because it indicates you are under extreme stress and you've done something extremely stupid again.

:banghead:
 
Any chance all the stalling tactics were because Baez was hoping to God that his client would wake up to reality and change her plea before trial? You know I like to poke fun at the defense as much as the next person, but he has very little to work with, and I think Casey is still insisting on her innocence even to him. He must be absolutely HATING what is coming down the line, the trial is going to be a nightmare for Baez and Co.

Damned psychopaths, they always end up roping in the people around them to take the brunt of humiliation and somehow avoid the big blows to their own ego don't they?

In my personal opinion, JB crossed a line with Casey a long time ago. A line that he can never cross back over.

I believe Casey has insisted on her innocence when it comes to "first degree murder", but I think she told JB an elaborate story of an accident, filled with lies only Casey can tell. I believe she told him that she wishes she could just tell them where Caylee was, but that she had put, not one, not two, but three strips of duct tape over Caylee's airwaves and that it would look bad, even though she didn't mean to. It was an accident. She panicked.

Cue DC out in those woods off Suburban Drive. The same woods where JB told DC not to call LE if he finds her. It is my opinion that they wanted the duct tape removed so that Casey could finally work with LE and the SA for a deal in exchange for a body. She was indicted without a body. The evidence was so damning against her that the only cards she had left to play were Caylee's remains. Maybe JB didn't pay DC because he didn't do his job... he didn't find Caylee... and NOW look what has happened... the remains were found with the duct tape around her airwaves.

I also think that JB is scared of Casey. I think there are so many things that they have talked about (plotting, planning, lying, etc...) that could destroy his life... not to mention that Casey has no problem lying about people to get what she wants. She could throw out all kind of accusations after the trial... if she doesn't get the mistrial he promised her. His life, like all the other people who have had the misfortune to be in contact with this family, is going to be hell! He will never get rid of Casey... and Cindy for that matter. I don't feel sorry for him one bit either. If he had done his job and been an attorney, and not one of Casey's "boys" all of this would have been over by now. He could have already sold a book or two. He could have had his own boat and sailed off into the sunset, but the flashing lights of fame were just too much for him to turn away.

I want the camera to be on JB's face during all of DC's testimony... I think he will be sitting extra super still... no smirking... nada.
 
Ewww Ohhhh Eeeee..I ve got it..Defense for Baez and rotating defense team members is to DELAY..DELAY..FILE motions...Play DUMB (not hard)..and claim lack of help to do what is required and demanded by the courts..Problem is he was given so much ROPE..he is HANGING himself with it!! I do recall early on the term "Baffoon"..me thinks it fits..and what do ya wanna bet..Casey will claim "Ineffective Council"??..

Well....Yeaaaa..what do you expect from a newbie attny who has no clue of cases of this magnitude..brings in HIGH profile peeps, then gets abandonned because HIS CLIENT is so guilty..and the lies arent HOLDING Water.

Bottomline..There IS NO defense..and even Baez knows it..but will continue in his quest for exposure (for himself..not CA)..He already knows she is a :loser:, especially now that he has milked the coffers of funds to EMPTY!!

IF and when this case goes to trial..I will watch it every moment I can! It sure will be entertaining :great:
 
In my personal opinion, JB crossed a line with Casey a long time ago. A line that he can never cross back over.

I believe Casey has insisted on her innocence when it comes to "first degree murder", but I think she told JB an elaborate story of an accident, filled with lies only Casey can tell. I believe she told him that she wishes she could just tell them where Caylee was, but that she had put, not one, not two, but three strips of duct tape over Caylee's airwaves and that it would look bad, even though she didn't mean to. It was an accident. She panicked.

Cue DC out in those woods off Suburban Drive. The same woods where JB told DC not to call LE if he finds her. It is my opinion that they wanted the duct tape removed so that Casey could finally work with LE and the SA for a deal in exchange for a body. She was indicted without a body. The evidence was so damning against her that the only cards she had left to play were Caylee's remains. Maybe JB didn't pay DC because he didn't do his job... he didn't find Caylee... and NOW look what has happened... the remains were found with the duct tape around her airwaves.

I also think that JB is scared of Casey. I think there are so many things that they have talked about (plotting, planning, lying, etc...) that could destroy his life... not to mention that Casey has no problem lying about people to get what she wants. She could throw out all kind of accusations after the trial... if she doesn't get the mistrial he promised her. His life, like all the other people who have had the misfortune to be in contact with this family, is going to be hell! He will never get rid of Casey... and Cindy for that matter. I don't feel sorry for him one bit either. If he had done his job and been an attorney, and not one of Casey's "boys" all of this would have been over by now. He could have already sold a book or two. He could have had his own boat and sailed off into the sunset, but the flashing lights of fame were just too much for him to turn away.

I want the camera to be on JB's face during all of DC's testimony... I think he will be sitting extra super still... no smirking... nada.

I sure as he77 hope that's the only line he's crossed with her! I mean the guy's an idiot but what a mess that would be and we're waiting on Justice here!
 
I think that Baez is scared to death of Casey also.

The things that she can, and most likely will come out and accuse him of once this is over will be staggering.
Ineffective council is the least of his worries, IMO.

There is the matter of all those private hours that she spent in his office, rumors of a secretary quitting because she thought there was funny business going on behind those closed doors.
The question of where did all of the money go? Did Casey sign off of things paid, and, if so, will the balances, balance?

She has him by the short hairs, and, he better believe that she won't be afraid to grab a hand full and pull real hard if and when the time comes.
He can cry all he wants, that this is normal client behavior when they loose a case, but, he has given her a lot of ammunation to neuter him and make what life he will have, miserable.
If he doesn't regret the day that he went to her aid, he will when this is over, because she be a thorn in his side for a very long time. I don't think that she would have a problem at all in getting an attorney to go after Baez. There are probably plenty that would take delight in taking this high and mighty, cocky no-nothing attorney to task and relieve him of his license, for good.
 
I think that Baez is scared to death of Casey also.

The things that she can, and most likely will come out and accuse him of once this is over will be staggering.
Ineffective council is the least of his worries, IMO.

There is the matter of all those private hours that she spent in his office, rumors of a secretary quitting because she thought there was funny business going on behind those closed doors.
The question of where did all of the money go? Did Casey sign off of things paid, and, if so, will the balances, balance?

She has him by the short hairs, and, he better believe that she won't be afraid to grab a hand full and pull real hard if and when the time comes.
He can cry all he wants, that this is normal client behavior when they loose a case, but, he has given her a lot of ammunation to neuter him and make what life he will have, miserable.
If he doesn't regret the day that he went to her aid, he will when this is over, because she be a thorn in his side for a very long time. I don't think that she would have a problem at all in getting an attorney to go after Baez. There are probably plenty that would take delight in taking this high and mighty, cocky no-nothing attorney to task and relieve him of his license, for good.

But, but, but who would listen to her, especially after the trial when people hear what a liar she is. Very little truth to anything she says. It will get her nowhere unless she filmed or recorded it. Nice to ponder but not going to happen. jmo
 
I'd like to add one if I may.

Only do your silly head sideways snap release when you absolutely have to because it indicates you are under extreme stress and you've done something extremely stupid again.

:banghead:


OMG that is so true!!! How could I have forgotten that one????

That move kind of reminds me of Elle Woods in Legally Blonde
doing the "bend and snap"!!!
 
OMG that is so true!!! How could I have forgotten that one????

That move kind of reminds me of Elle Woods in Legally Blonde
doing the "bend and snap"!!!

LOL - I couldn't have come up with that spectacular list you did - but when I see him do the head bend and snap - I laugh and say "ah ha!!"
 
I think that Baez is scared to death of Casey also.

The things that she can, and most likely will come out and accuse him of once this is over will be staggering.
Ineffective council is the least of his worries, IMO.

There is the matter of all those private hours that she spent in his office, rumors of a secretary quitting because she thought there was funny business going on behind those closed doors.
The question of where did all of the money go? Did Casey sign off of things paid, and, if so, will the balances, balance?

She has him by the short hairs, and, he better believe that she won't be afraid to grab a hand full and pull real hard if and when the time comes.
He can cry all he wants, that this is normal client behavior when they loose a case, but, he has given her a lot of ammunation to neuter him and make what life he will have, miserable.
If he doesn't regret the day that he went to her aid, he will when this is over, because she be a thorn in his side for a very long time. I don't think that she would have a problem at all in getting an attorney to go after Baez. There are probably plenty that would take delight in taking this high and mighty, cocky no-nothing attorney to task and relieve him of his license, for good.

And all of this could have been avoided if JB would have just been an attorney! I would have no problem with JB if all he was doing was giving Casey the best defense possible... because no matter what, we, as Americans, are entitled to a fair trial, but he threw that all out of the window when he fought the gag order. What defense attorney in their right mind would NOT want a gag order in a case like this? Yeah, I know, Jose Baez!

The only thing that I take any comfort in is that Casey gets to see her defense at work... she sees what a bubbling idiot Baez is and she has NOT fired him. Which she has a right to do.

The defense is in for quite a ride these next few months and I really don't think that Judge Perry has any intentions of delaying the trial again. I think we can rest assured that this trial will start in May 2011. Things are going to be getting rough for Casey too... we're starting to get into her personal life now... her lies, her sex life, her thefts... she's going to have to stare truth right in the face for the first time in her life. If she isn't begging and pleading for the SA to give her LWOP in exchange for a Guilty plea, I think she may very well get the Death penalty. The woman is intolerable to watch in the courtroom and she just can't help herself. I see Casey having at least one outburst during trial where she gets so angry that she can't shwallow.

I think Jose's biggest problem is not that he has no defense stradegy... his biggest problem is that he promised Casey as mistrial... and he won't get her one... no matter how hard he tries. A angry Casey is a scary Casey! Jose knows this too!
 
Concordia prof's testimony in Fla. case may prove crucial
Tim Huntington can't say much about the most interesting case he's ever participated in.

The Concordia University assistant professor will say this: He doesn't know how public figures handle the media attention.

"I don't know how celebrities deal with the paparazzi," he said.

Admittedly, Huntington's role as an expert witness for the Casey Anthony defense team in Orlando isn't as high profile as those of Anthony or her attorneys. But at least one legal expert has called the forensic evidence -- particularly that which deals with bugs -- crucial in the state's efforts to convict the young mother accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter.

According to Orlando legal analyst Bill Sheaffer, that's because the state's evidence against Anthony is largely circumstantial, other than some forensic evidence linking her daughter's body to her car's trunk.

Huntington -- who, at 31, says he's the youngest of the country's 15 board-certified forensic entomologists -- did a deposition Tuesday via Skype. He gave testimony under oath in support of Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder of her daughter. Caylee Anthony's remains were found in a wooded area near her Orange County, Fla., home in December 2008.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/education/article_14e2a260-8410-51c5-a148-5cf37d4ebefd.html
 
Motion to supress video of ICA when remains of small child found @ Suburban
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26323238/detail.html


Baez claims, it was a set-up!
On December 11, 2008 when those remains were found, it was not told at that point, a positive ID of those remains, yet, ICA has this huge reaction...Goes to consciousness of guilt...it will remain in evidence...JMHO


Justice for Caylee
 
I think it will be a mistrail, ineffective use of counsel, or a plea for LWOP. I don't think it will even go to trial. MOO
 
Strategy

"Ladies and gentleman of the jury, who are you going to believe.....me or your own eyes?

I rest my case....

P.S. Everyone else is lying."
 
There is just something so wrong about using the words "defense" and "strategy" in the same sentence.
 
I have posted some of this info in the AL Tapes and Lectures thread but thought I would bring some of it here with some new thoughts.

These are my notes taken from listening to her lecture via MP3 file found on the internet. Please listen to the lecture for full content. My thoughts in red.


Andrea Lyon speaking at The Kentucky Public Defender College
Storytelling in Opening and Closing : Recorded at DPA Conference in 2008


Jurors tell stories during deliberation in order to change another jurors mind.

We can use stories in court smooth over things.

Opening arguments, give you the opportunity to engage your audience and to help them see another perspective. It is not what you see but how you see it.

4PM Friday afternoon is her favorite time for “stories”. And apparently for filing motions too...

Create an opportunity for jurors to step outside their own experiences and to travel into the world of your client.

80% of decisions on a case are made by the end of opening statements.

It is easier for prosecutors to tell a story.

Opening Statements should keep in mind: “What is the story?” not what you plan to show. You have to ask yourself “Why should they vote with you?” Tell them right away. What your jury hears first and last is what they will remember.

Commercial analogy…. “Get to the audience right away from the start.” Themes, slogans, stories are crucial. Death is different.

Your job is to find a way to encapsulate your case with a slogan.

Don’t waste the jury’s time by introducing yourself. Only thank them after they vote your way. Because being sequestered away from family for 6 weeks or more is not worthy of thanks.

You cannot sell what you wouldn’t buy. Find a theory of the case works with you and your point of view and work with it. Yes SODDI. Now who to trash.......who to make your pawn.

Tell the story so that you are deeply persuaded yourself.

Establish rapport….you believe what you are saying. Discuss your own concerns or feelings about certain aspects of the case. Admit that there are some aspects that trouble you. Even if there is a part of the case you are not going to look at closely and you look more closely at others.


Make sure jury knows that cross examination is your evidence.
Jury doesn’t know it is evidence.

Judge says consider all evidence, but most prosecutors and judges fail to instruct you that info from cross examination qualifies as evidence. I think Judge Perry has this in mind already.

Leave yourself a place to go in opening. Only promise only what you can really deliver. Leave some info to mystery…. “Wait till you hear about….” Kind of like JB saying we will all finally understand.

Remember……. “A witness from jail is bought and paid for”. Wonder who asked the jail snitches to talk??? Hmmmm

The jury should be told about any deals cut with witnesses. Then remind them why they should be shocked and appalled by these “deals”.

Build the story up in opening. Have props. Anything you like, plate of spaghetti, anything demonstrative. It doesn’t have to be fancy, just visual. YES SHE ACTUALLY SAID SPAGHETTI.

If I seem to know too much about the case the jury will assume I must have heard it from my client. Tell them you learned about this info from discovery and investigations not from witness. It is important to remind the jury what discovery is, that both sides use it in preparing their case, and to make sure that they know that just because I seem to know a lot, it does not mean I got any of it from the client. I can't help but think that JB NEEDS something particular to show up in discovery and it hasn't. Perhaps a tidbit KC told him about that he NEEDS to say he found via discovery.

Take the wind out of oppositions sail.

You have to be prepared for something ugly out there.

Be matter of fact in opening.

In Closing: Give jury permission to feel ok for voting with you. Understand their hesitation and give them permission to vote with their hearts.
Ask them to find a lesser offense. Find stories to give them permission. They vote with their hearts. Closings need some evidence. You can’t win at closing. You can lose it at closing. There is something on both sides. That’s why you are trying the case.

Tell them I was told………when sharing certain information.
People remember in threes. Structure of your open or close should utilize a concept with 3 words.
Do not patronize jurors.
Rule of 3 works.
Use analogy.
Regarding length of time needed for open or close….. Judges ask how long do you need?
I answer “a while”.

I spent 2.25 hours in a close while I was pregnant.


Most people are able to speak 200 wpm……… but they think at 600 -650 per minute…..you can hear info, process it, and argue against it in your mind. SO ask yourself…..what would a juror be arguing with me about in their mind? Then argue those concerns in your closing.

Elements of story: Content, theme, theory, structure, memorable phrase or image.

At this time AL plays different theme music selections to illustrate the feelings they evoke.

I think to myself… “What would be the music of this case?”

Present certain locations visually. Describe the interrogation room as scary.

Develop a slogan.

Tell the jury right way why they should see your point.

Cross examine LE…..read police training books and detective training. Find details to focus on that they didn’t do. This has been going on since day 1 or 31. The police never looked at anyone other than KC... She was victimized too. Blah blah blah

Paint pic of case so jury can see it.
Think place, person, time, thing…….

Establish locations in the case as public places. Where anyone else could have been as well. Like Dominic Casey, Kronk, random people in the woods. ANYONE but my client could have done it.

Phrases you hear in court make case come alive or have an impact on jury. Like "quite frankly"???????

Make the jury react. Make your client likable. Dress her in frilly shirts so she looks innocent.

Don’t ignore privacy. Except for the privacy of witnesses, volunteers, and people who cared about a child. Yes their privacy is no concern. Be sure to demand privacy for your client though.

Speak as if there is music accompanying you.
Even if confessions are forced they will still work against client.

Create symbols of case. Use descriptive words. Paint the picture.
Give jury a way to think of something differently. Use slogan. Find analogies…..square peg / round hole, use fables,

Insanity…. You are about to watch the process and program of mental illness. “Prosecutors may tell you that client had no reason to kill her husband but you can look at her face and scars and past abuse to see her reason.” That bus has been rolling faster and faster lately Perhaps this is why the defense is stalking EVERYONE. We already see the groundwork for KC was abused and snapped.

Do:
Develop a statement, know your own emotional point of view, “what do I want to convey to jury?” (Was the officer overworked, biased, Lazy?)

Investigation gets you info to use.
And don't forget to harass and stalk everyone that you can in hopes of finding or CREATING a witness.

Use analogy… “This client was so damaged internally that the smallest step sent them over the edge to insanity.” Concrete seems stable outside but may be so internally flawed inside that it crumbles.


Set a scene. Use your body to show what you mean. Act events out in open and close. Use physical self to set scene. I did a closing argument handcuffed. Make places LIVE. Use direct stories. Story about decision they are going to make. (Closing)

Voir dire: Quote from voir dire……..There was lots of publicity about the case. It was a 57 yo woman who wrote a bad check at toys r us to buy gifts for grandchildren………. During voir dire there were groups / small group / individuals participating in voir dire…. I asked the court reporter to transcribe just what had been taken from those interviewed under guise of running around and having a hard time keeping up with all groups. Under guise of really means means I lied!!!!!!!!! .

All jurors had been asked and answered as to what they thought mitigation meant. I looked at jurors and said blah blah blah and would pull from their statements made in voir dire in order to directly appeal to each juror. I sure hope Judge Perry thwarts that BS.

Pull from what you feel and use it. Get to the place where you can connect to case. Emotionally connect to case to show you are there because you care. Use demonstrative things, recreate interrogation, setting,

Admit the prejudice you may have had regarding eyewitnesses in order to dispel jurors same impressions. Client was a 6 ft 9 PR guy…I thought PR were short, but guess I was wrong. I had a tall guy stand up in court and used him as a reference.
Judge stopped her demonstration because it was too effective.

Be willing to take your time. My client is human but jury has been dehumanized. Talk to jury till they feel like people again. Clarence Darrow used to argue for days.

People have been watching TV too long, been on internet too long, camera angles change. 15 seconds is the average attention span for American public. Not used to thinking about taking our time with stuff. There are a lot of things to talk about with jury…presumption of innocence and understanding why it is so hard. Talk with them as you would with friends who are not lawyers. The things lawyers like are not same as jury.

Describe what it looked like and sounded like and smelled like. SO AL admits one can describe smells. Like Decomp????? That little tidbit may bite em in the arse.

#1 rule of evidence …If prosecution needs it, it’s coming in. For defense…if I need it I’ll use it.

Regarding photos that will be used by prosecution….. Talk about the bad photos and that they will make you sick. Explain to them that the prosecutors have no choice but to show you pics. Tell them that they are not going to like seeing them. Have them throw up during trial instead of at closing. Make photos seem worse than they are and do so in voir dire AND opening so you can turn them to your advantage or neutralize them. If they expect worse……then they will be disappointed with what pros shows in court.

Unanswerable last word. Tell the jury they can promise you they will never commit a crime. They can make that promise and keep it. But remind them “You can’t promise you’ll never be accused of it.”

Make the dragon. Know the dragon’s true name to take their power. No one talks about racism. My black or Hispanics client’s word against white words. Oh yes JB the Hispanic lawyer is a victim. Nevermind Caylee....JB has been discriminated against. /COLOR]

Discuss the dragon in the room ahead of time. Give the jury a salient way to deal with it or it will silently be killing you.

Give jury permission to talk about discrimination or racism etc…..

Don’ts

Don’t distance yourself from jury. Don’t let them think you are smarter than them. That must explain the act..

Don’t talk down, talk with. Imagine you are all at a big table in a diner comfortable..

Tell jury what to feel.

Do talk about feelings in case and tell them it’s ok to feel outrage.

Don’t tell them arguments are not evidence. Don’t challenge jurors. Don’t be afraid to ask for mercy.

If law and facts were against you but mercy was with you. (Example of a bad check case pic of woman 57 writing bad check at toys are us)

My one and only negotiation tool…”F*$* YOU LET”S PICK A JURY”


There was no defense, get jury to show mercy. In jury selection, She discussed juror she noticed…in sensible shoes, lives in racist neighborhood (you have to fill out questionnaire to live there) , husband worked for so and so. But when she stood up she noticed the woman had on purple slip. “I said this woman is a nut.” I kept her on jury. She hung the jury, took out needlepoint and said she wasn’t going to cave. She understood. So we can't discriminate against KC because she is pretty but we can call a woman in a purple slip a NUT??

Don’t challenge prosecutor. Just don't cooperate with them and remember to call them names????

What is purpose of story? Give them permission to vote your way. Lawsuit is about perspective. Find ways to create stories. We get narrow, and focused, and we don’t know how to change perspective. Perspective is the whole thing. Thelma and Louise analogy.

Our job is to create change of perspective by entering life of client. We usually do it in closing, or in opening or someone does it for us.

Is your theory “jury friendly”?? Notice she does not mention is your theory in any way shape or form anywhere close to the truth!!!!!!!!!

Talk about good things client had done. OH yes KC was designated driver, always made dinner and cleaned for friends. That will have to go pretty far.

Human emotional stories are important. Be willing to search for them. Just not search for your "missing" child.

When asked……”What do I do to get ready?”
I tell them I listen. That’s it.
 
In the words of Andrea Lyon....
"Victims families are trier of fact.....more damage done....less reasonable doubt."


So we see why it is so important that KC family appears to support her so completely even though their own grandchild was the victim.

Remember KC said in jail how she needed to be seen as the victim too???


I love how as the case draws nearer to trial....things start falling into place and ummmmmm "strategy".
 
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