Where is Haleigh

[Blackwatch]

I must have missed the part about the sheets and LE putting them outside? That and letting TN and whoever else in the home was also a critical mistake.

I do trust the dogs if they are police trained...

They DID, IIRC, throw the sheets down on the ramp for the dogs to get the scent. Also, the new sheriff admitted the scent may have blown or wafted toward the water from the sheets. There WERE a lot of mistakes made.

Just my opinion

 

[Skully]

So did Haleigh have a recurring problem with bed-wetting?

I never understood why only her blanket was washed and not her sheets..

Exactly, when a child wets the bed; the sheets and what they were wearing are washed. That's why I think there were two bed times that night. The first time she wet her bed, the shirt was thrown into the dirty pile, the blanket washed, and the sheets as she said she put a sheet over her while she was doing the was. Maybe this time, Jr was in Misty's with Haleigh. Maybe the mattress on the floor was wet. Then if they went out and came home, she could have put the kids in separate beds. This would explain why she had two different stories. She was up set, couldn't say they were out and got mixed up. I think Misty brought them home and then went out to return her Brother's van or the blue van. I think that is why the radio call has that remark. You can debate it all you want but that is my theory for now.

 

[chesterp]

I know this is not the dream thread, however, I saw clearly Haleigh on her mattress and someone SCOOPED her up and took her away. I did not see his face during this dream I saw him walking along the wall I saw his body and the striped polo shirt he was wearing.... I am never going to stop praying for Haleigh... She is going to be found.

 

[atherella]

I know this is not the dream thread, however, I saw clearly Haleigh on her mattress and someone SCOOPED her up and took her away. I did not see his face during this dream I saw him walking along the wall I saw his body and the striped polo shirt he was wearing.... I am never going to stop praying for Haleigh... She is going to be found.

Thank you, chesterp!

I agree with you. I will never stop praying for HaLeigh either, and I too believe she will be found! Hopefully sooner, rather than later. 5 months is 5 months too long!

 

[elle1919]

Exactly, when a child wets the bed; the sheets and what they were wearing are washed. That's why I think there were two bed times that night. The first time she wet her bed, the shirt was thrown into the dirty pile, the blanket washed, and the sheets as she said she put a sheet over her while she was doing the was. Maybe this time, Jr was in Misty's with Haleigh. Maybe the mattress on the floor was wet. Then if they went out and came home, she could have put the kids in separate beds. This would explain why she had two different stories. She was up set, couldn't say they were out and got mixed up. I think Misty brought them home and then went out to return her Brother's van or the blue van. I think that is why the radio call has that remark. You can debate it all you want but that is my theory for now.

Howdy Bern, I remember from the walk thru that the NG show did when LE released the trailer that only the mattress was in the master bedroom with Misty and Ronalds bed. The white frame for the bed was in Haleigh's bedroom standing upright against the wall. TN said that JUST the mattress was in the bedroom with Misty's and RC's bed. The mattress was small and looked like a toddler bed mattress, makes sense cause the bed frame in Haleigh's room was a toddler bed frame. Haleigh's mattress looked to have like the vinyl outer covering, meaning if Haleigh wet the bed it would be easy just to wash down. Unsure if there was a sheet on the mattress itself but Haleigh could have been covered up with a sheet just laying on this vinyl covering while her other bedding washed and dried. If that is what happened. I really believe that Haleigh awoke in the night, either because she wet, or because she heard something or someone, and took that pink shirt off on her own. Misty found the shirt when LE took her back into the home to interview her or whatever. Misty claims that she didn't know why Haleigh's pink shirt was in the dirty laundry pile, but if Haleigh woke up in the night and took the shirt off herself Misty wouldn't know that would she? Especially if she was sleeping or out of the home. Either is possible in my opinion.

 

[mysticrose]

I am sure you all have seen the latest article from BNN. Apparentley the family has requested for a certain property to be searched again. It is the property that I was trying to get more help in finding more info on about 3 or 4 different times when the RT was open but no one was interested. I could only find some basic info. but not who was staying there. It is the property by Rons old place on the river. There is about 1- 2 acres there. I believe this is the same spot that TN got run off from after being threaten they would be shot..any how I hope LE gets off their butts abnd gets over there to search..

 

[Whisperer]

He lives in sooo many places and there is soo much water....hard to tell where they mean.

The place on Shoreline looked really nice..the only nice property I saw that they lived in. It sat on the bank of the canal. It was where TN lived and RC first said he lived when he went for custody. He wasn't there long apparently.

He also lived on Sharon......far side of Satsuma across hwy 17. Very remote....lots of forests..can't tell if there is water near that place but most likely is. It appears one is not far from water in Satsuma.

 

[mysticrose]

He lives in sooo many places and there is soo much water....hard to tell where they mean.

The place on Shoreline looked really nice..the only nice property I saw that they lived in. It sat on the bank of the canal. It was where TN lived and RC first said he lived when he went for custody. He wasn't there long apparently.

He also lived on Sharon......far side of Satsuma across hwy 17. Very remote....lots of forests..can't tell if there is water near that place but most likely is. It appears one is not far from water in Satsuma.

Hi whisperer..The property I am speaking of is on Green Lane just down from the MH Haleigh was taken from, torwards the river.The property is like 1-2 acres I know who owns the property what I dont know is who is staying there.This person is staying there rent free, in a trailer located on the property and there is also another man there as well, this has been my understanding for months. I am not sure if I can give an address or not I do have a map of it though. I am not sure how to post a map..

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Hi whisperer..The property I am speaking of is on Green Lane just down from the MH Haleigh was taken from, torwards the river.The property is like 1-2 acres I know who owns the property what I dont know is who is staying there.This person is staying there rent free, in a trailer located on the property and there is also another man there as well, this has been my understanding for months. I am not sure if I can give an address or not I do have a map of it though. I am not sure how to post a map..

Article says behind former Cummings home, NO address was given in the article!
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4785535.php

 

[mysticrose]

Article says behind former Cummings home, NO address was given in the article!
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4785535.php

Thanks TomsGirl I know which property they are speaking of in regards to the one they want LE to re search and it is on GReen LN.

 

[chesterp]

When I read the article LE was rethinking searching a piece of property with a green trailer, etc., near the RC's trailer, I was so happy. I am one of those "Psychics" in the article, I am not a psychic but I have been having strong dreams since day one about this area......... and precious Haleigh.

When I would go up on my own and search I was never able to get back to this piece of property.... Other's that I have be with in Satsuma claim they have psychic ability and ONEHOTMAMMA who began posting on WS's...we have been back in that area and I think she feels strongly about that area I haven't spoken to her in awhile...

Around that area is a lot of private property, which made it impossible for us to search on our own, I do hope LE will be tearing that area all apart. My dream from day one....HOME/CLOSE/TREE a few other things and ROSES.... On 17...the road which you turn off of to E. Buffalo Bluff there is a nursery that sells roses..... this put Haleigh between the MH and 17 where the nursey is............... we do not know if there is a canal in that area..if there is that might fit in with Bern's initial thoughts on the precious little girl.

I am continuing to pray and have faith in LE that she will be found when she is supposed to be found. Also, we could not check an area where a dock was being redone.... the Neighborhood Assc would not give us searchers on our own to search...

 

[Skully]

I think that LE needs to start over. Get TES back out there, start new search groups, and start at the MH and work there way out again. I don't think anyone in the family on either side has her, but they could still rework that as they do a ground and water search. I also think that they should re check every RSO and assume a time line of 5pm to 3:30 am to cover all bases with them. I know it would be a huge expense but this is horrible for the families to endure. I couldn't get out of bed, not knowing where my little girl was each day that passed. It's not even my child and I think of her everyday. I post everyday, and hope that they will find her. Get her back on the news, generate some interest and do a massive search.

 

[TxLady2]

Thanks TomsGirl I know which property they are speaking of in regards to the one they want LE to re search and it is on GReen LN.

Not if it is behind the blue MH where Ron was living when Haleigh was kidnapped. The article says it is behind that house, through some trees. That would be on Tyler St. or Buchanan Circle... would not be on Green Ln. if that article is correct.

 

[TxLady2]

I think that LE needs to start over. Get TES back out there, start new search groups, and start at the MH and work there way out again. I don't think anyone in the family on either side has her, but they could still rework that as they do a ground and water search. I also think that they should re check every RSO and assume a time line of 5pm to 3:30 am to cover all bases with them. I know it would be a huge expense but this is horrible for the families to endure. I couldn't get out of bed, not knowing where my little girl was each day that passed. It's not even my child and I think of her everyday. I post everyday, and hope that they will find her. Get her back on the news, generate some interest and do a massive search.

My sentiments exactly. My son says it is not unusual for LE to start over, when they reach a place in the investigation that they are stalled. He also says many cases take years to solve.
LE did make some mistakes early on, and it is now time to go back and re-interview everyone, search again, do everything they can to find this little girl and bring her home. If there is anyone there that knows something about it, they need to speak up!

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I agree.They should do a massive search and every where.I think up both ways of HWY 17 mainly towards Palatka and further than they did before and possibly both ways further on Buffalo Bluff road.If they can go with all that equipment to check the farm then they need to check all areas also.

 

[mysticrose]

Not if it is behind the blue MH where Ron was living when Haleigh was kidnapped. The article says it is behind that house, through some trees. That would be on Tyler St. or Buchanan Circle... would not be on Green Ln. if that article is correct.

TxLady I would give an address but I can't at this time and then you could see what I am talking about. But until they go public with an address I can't say.

 

[Skully]

I posted this before, but it was a while ago... I had a predator try to get me to go with him and I didn't go... but he came back that night to see if he could get me. This guy was bold and relentless. I was 8 and he was 19. When I say they will do just about anything to get a child, I mean it. It was the first time he had ever been to our home. He came over with my cousin who was 18 at the time. My cousin drove, this guy did not have a car. When he couldn't get me to go in the daytime with my parents just inside the door he walked back that night and came into our garage. My brother and his friends had the garage door open and were lifting weights and hanging out, my brother was 10. He came into our garage and then said he needed to use the bathroom. He knew my parents weren't home. Just the kids. It was summer time and I was in my room. He had the Ba**s to knock on my door and ask to come in!!!!! I was smart and kept the door locked and my brother came looking for him and told him to leave. If he would have got me to go in the daytime that day, no one would have ever knew who took me. They would have thought my parents did it. Or my cousin. But not this guy. He went on to kill a 5yr old girl 16 years later. He raped and stabbed her to death and left her on a road near where we lived. He was never convicted of the crime. They knew he did it, but there wasn't DNA back then. So my point is, everyone has a circle of family and friends. They ALL need to be checked out. If the cousin was visiting Chelsea and he came down with a friend, the friend and his friends need to be looked at. SO hang with SO. That is a fact. Some one knew Haleigh was vulnerable with Misty. Ron was at work.

 

[elle1919]

It really breaks my heart that this area isn't being searched now....today! I am also sad that LE hasn't done more for Haleigh and these two families. I am sorry, that is just how I feel. And the information in that article about the person breaking silence with the media because LE has been quiet too long, I have my ideas on who that might be.

Bern, I agree I don't think it is ever to late to organize a search and get TM in there. But, wasn't it LE who sent him away in the first place?

 

[Skully]

It really breaks my heart that this area isn't being searched now....today! I am also sad that LE hasn't done more for Haleigh and these two families. I am sorry, that is just how I feel. And the information in that article about the person breaking silence with the media because LE has been quiet too long, I have my ideas on who that might be.

Bern, I agree I don't think it is ever to late to organize a search and get TM in there. But, wasn't it LE who sent him away in the first place?

Yes, Tim said "It's not what you think" as he was leaving. Don't ask for a link I don't remember after all this time. It was a video I think. But at the time, I think LE was working on the notion that it was a custody fight and family took her, or that the cousin took her out of State to TN. That was in the very beginning. Now those leads dried up and they know they need to start over. I know TES would come back for Haleigh.

 

[Skully]

I posted that even Ron's coworkers should be looked at and some people took offense at it, but I said it because Ron may have confided in someone at work about the situation at home with Misty and the kids. Marie's hay farm may have someone who worked there or came to pick up hay for someone who had an Equestrian Center and may have heard the about the situation in Satsuma. You never know if a person or worker or someone you talk too is an offender; unless they get caught. They listen for opportunities to get a child. That is why they need to check all the people the family had contact with or even confided in about the situation. Chad could have said something to someone about Crystal's situation and complained about Misty and leaving the kids and Ron working at night. You NEVER KNOW who you are giving information too. Each person should have a list of people they talked too or gave information too and that circle needs to be looked at for possible offenders.