Who Is Terri Horman?

[miabellamoure]

bbm

What struck me when I first read what Terri said was that Kyron was afraid to go into a room with her. He would walk in and then back out, as if he did not want to be alone with her. jmo

Interesting thought...

Actually, Terri did not specify that it was in a room "with her"--other people could have been in the room--it was not specified that the two were in a room "alone"

Maybe not, but it is interesting how purple turtle imagined it...and it wouldn't surprise me at all except, I actually believe these claims by TH were part of her grander scheme...

 

[Jo in Calif]

bbm

that shows me a division in the marriage ... motive for changing a child's name reflects commitment to their spouse where this says the complete opposite, imho.

But she changed it from, Ecker, I believe, her second husband that adopted him. I assume J's birth name was Tarver and she changed it to Moulton. Hope I spelled all the names correctly.

 

[cluciano63]

Tonight I found that Terri's FB saved on someone's personal blog...and reading the days leading up to June 4, it is just all so normal and mundane...very hard for me to believe in premediation for such a horrible act. Everything is just back and forth to friends, about photos of the baby, and her telling about the incident that happened to her cousins in CA the prior weekend, game playing, etc...

Back in early June, I posted that I thought whatever happened, if it was Terri was either an accident or the result of a flash of nasty temper gone too far and I still have not been able to set that aside, although I know it is a highly unpopular theory. Part of my reasoning is the total lack of a decent alibi. I do think she lied to LE, I do think she may have harmed Kyron, but I don't believe in the diabolical plan and the cast of accomplices.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Tonight I found that Terri's FB saved on someone's personal blog...and reading the days leading up to June 4, it is just all so normal and mundane...very hard for me to believe in premediation for such a horrible act. Everything is just back and forth to friends, about photos of the baby, and her telling about the incident that happened to her cousins in CA the prior weekend, game playing, etc...

Back in early June, I posted that I thought whatever happened, if it was Terri was either an accident or the result of a flash of nasty temper gone too far and I still have not been able to set that aside, although I know it is a highly unpopular theory. Part of my reasoning is the total lack of a decent alibi. I do think she lied to LE, I do think she may have harmed Kyron, but I don't believe in the diabolical plan and the cast of accomplices.

I've never believed in the premeditated theory, although I could change my mind if there were evidence (and I am still not completely convinced TMH did it).

I suddenly wonder, though, if there could have been an accomplice after the fact. An accomplice who did not know they were being used. If TMH did it and then called someone from a public phone at one of the FMs to do something that she believed would help her with her alibi.

That person may have done her the favour without knowing anything was wrong and then be too loyal or too afraid to come forward once Kyron was discovered missing.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Tonight I found that Terri's FB saved on someone's personal blog...and reading the days leading up to June 4, it is just all so normal and mundane...very hard for me to believe in premediation for such a horrible act. Everything is just back and forth to friends, about photos of the baby, and her telling about the incident that happened to her cousins in CA the prior weekend, game playing, etc...

Back in early June, I posted that I thought whatever happened, if it was Terri was either an accident or the result of a flash of nasty temper gone too far and I still have not been able to set that aside, although I know it is a highly unpopular theory. Part of my reasoning is the total lack of a decent alibi. I do think she lied to LE, I do think she may have harmed Kyron, but I don't believe in the diabolical plan and the cast of accomplices.

To my way of thinking, that's exactly how someone would act if this crime was premeditated. They wouldn't be any different from normal. They wouldn't want to do anything out of the ordinary.

If you think of it as preparing for a "secret event" that you can't talk about to anyone, then Terri was acting the way anyone would if they wanted to keep a secret. JMOO

 

[Jo in Calif]

Tonight I found that Terri's FB saved on someone's personal blog...and reading the days leading up to June 4, it is just all so normal and mundane...very hard for me to believe in premediation for such a horrible act. Everything is just back and forth to friends, about photos of the baby, and her telling about the incident that happened to her cousins in CA the prior weekend, game playing, etc...

Back in early June, I posted that I thought whatever happened, if it was Terri was either an accident or the result of a flash of nasty temper gone too far and I still have not been able to set that aside, although I know it is a highly unpopular theory. Part of my reasoning is the total lack of a decent alibi. I do think she lied to LE, I do think she may have harmed Kyron, but I don't believe in the diabolical plan and the cast of accomplices.

The thing with facebook, is you can private message people. Terri isn't going to gripe and complain about Kaine or Kyron on her wall, for all of her friends to see.
I'm sure LE subpoenaed Terri's account, they could see her private messages.

 

[wvjules]

To my way of thinking, that's exactly how someone would act if this crime was premeditated. They wouldn't be any different from normal. They wouldn't want to do anything out of the ordinary.

If you think of it as preparing for a "secret event" that you can't talk about to anyone, then Terri was acting the way anyone would if they wanted to keep a secret. JMOO

So her normalcy prior to Kyron's disappearance is all a part of the grand plan and shows premeditation? :waitasec:

 

[SurfieTX]

So her normalcy prior to Kyron's disappearance is all a part of the grand plan and shows premeditation? :waitasec:

I hate to keep banging the Scott Peterson drum, but so much of this case parallels it.

Look at what Scott did - it was Christmas, he bought presents, they were decorating the baby's room, and so forth and so on. No one suspected a thing and really didn't for a bit of time there at the beginning. He had even Laci's family fooled.

 

[cluciano63]

I think Scott just went along as Lacy did all that holiday prep-if I remember correctly, he hadn't bought her a present?

 

[miabellamoure]

I hate to keep banging the Scott Peterson drum, but so much of this case parallels it.

Look at what Scott did - it was Christmas, he bought presents, they were decorating the baby's room, and so forth and so on. No one suspected a thing and really didn't for a bit of time there at the beginning. He had even Laci's family fooled.

It's what one does when living a dual life until one makes the choice of downsizing their personal life.

I believe a professional term is decompartmentalizing...

 

[ThoughtFox]

I think Scott just went along as Lacy did all that holiday prep-if I remember correctly, he hadn't bought her a present?

I believe he lied to Diane Sawyer and told her he had bought Laci a Gucci purse - forgetting that his wife already owned one just like it.

 

[ami]

I think Scott just went along as Lacy did all that holiday prep-if I remember correctly, he hadn't bought her a present?

You know what, as closely as I followed that case I don't know if I ever knew whether Scott just said he bought Laci an LV wallet or if he actually did buy her one?

One thing that strikes me when it comes to parallels in cases is how quickly someone guilty moves on when they are supposed to be grieving. Now since Terri was sequestered really quickly we have no real idea of how much grieving she's done. We know about the sexts and all, and that was bad enough, but I wonder if she'd been allowed to keep facebooking and all, if we would have seen a very quick recovery, maybe back to normal game playing, forgetting to mention the case, Kyron, anniversaries, etc?

 

[ami]

I believe he lied to Diane Sawyer and told her he had bought Laci a Gucci purse - forgetting that his wife already owned one just like it.

Thanks! I was just trying to remember if he actually bought one (perhaps for Amber) and just said it was for Laci --- or if he never bought a thing and just mumbled the name of a gift to LE.

 

[miabellamoure]

You know what, as closely as I followed that case I don't know if I ever knew whether Scott just said he bought Laci an LV wallet or if he actually did buy her one?

One thing that strikes me when it comes to parallels in cases is how quickly someone guilty moves on when they are supposed to be grieving. Now since Terri was sequestered really quickly we have no real idea of how much grieving she's done. We know about the sexts and all, and that was bad enough, but I wonder if she'd been allowed to keep facebooking and all, if we would have seen a very quick recovery, maybe back to normal game playing, forgetting to mention the case, Kyron, anniversaries, etc?

bbm

Completely OT but, mention of how quickly "guilty" people move on while in a grieving stage...it always used to astonish myself (& staff) just how quickly senior men who have recently lost the loves of their lives and the amount of time before they would request a first time prescription for Viagra!

The average time seen in our practice was...3 weeks!:Banane59:

 

[citigirl]

bbm

Completely OT but, mention of how quickly "guilty" people move on while in a grieving stage...it always used to astonish myself (& staff) just how quickly senior men who have recently lost the loves of their lives and the amount of time before they would request a first time prescription for Viagra!

The average time seen in our practice was...3 weeks!:Banane59:

I am thinking it might be different if one lost a child instead of a spouse...?

 

[nosysw]

Tonight I found that Terri's FB saved on someone's personal blog...and reading the days leading up to June 4, it is just all so normal and mundane...very hard for me to believe in premediation for such a horrible act. Everything is just back and forth to friends, about photos of the baby, and her telling about the incident that happened to her cousins in CA the prior weekend, game playing, etc...

Back in early June, I posted that I thought whatever happened, if it was Terri was either an accident or the result of a flash of nasty temper gone too far and I still have not been able to set that aside, although I know it is a highly unpopular theory. Part of my reasoning is the total lack of a decent alibi. I do think she lied to LE, I do think she may have harmed Kyron, but I don't believe in the diabolical plan and the cast of accomplices.

I'm not sure her FB page would bring me to this conclusion- almost everyone presents themselves as the "fun" or "cool" or "smart" one on FB...

That said, I have never been convinced of premeditation- strongly favor a flash of nasty temper/accident, or maybe even last minute decision... I would be surprised if it wasn't something she'd fantasized about, however. I do believe the idea of him (and Desiree) being out of her life was something she thought about quite a bit...

 

[miabellamoure]

I am thinking it might be different if one lost a child instead of a spouse...?

God, I would hope so although, Terri sure proved that wrong.

In my prior post about senior men...it was meant entirely OT and nothing to do with Kyron's case...at all.

 

[GrainneDhu]

bbm

Completely OT but, mention of how quickly "guilty" people move on while in a grieving stage...it always used to astonish myself (& staff) just how quickly senior men who have recently lost the loves of their lives and the amount of time before they would request a first time prescription for Viagra!

The average time seen in our practice was...3 weeks!:Banane59:

Makes sense to me.

Older men were part of an older generation, where most of them were taught that there was women's work (and role) and men's work. They tended to marry young and had rarely lived alone before marriage.

So for many of them, a wife became associated with comfort and security. When their long time spouse dies, they grieve they make one of two decisions: go with her or live. The ones that decide to live get on with life.

I know that when my grandmother was diagnosed with cancer forty years ago, she picked out a friend of hers that she knew my grandfather had always liked and decided that they would marry after she (my grandmother) died. My grandmother got her three daughters on board by telling them that if one of them objected, she should leave her own marriage and move in with my grandfather in order to take care of him. Because there wasn't a chance in hell that he would move away from their home!

Six months after my grandmother died, my grandfather married the friend she had picked out and they had 12 good years together.

I think in many ways, older people tend to be more pragmatic. Maybe it's because they know they don't have as long left to be indecisive with!

 

[txsvicki]

If Terri had premeditated something about Kyron very long or even very well there wouldn't be 1.5 hours of not being able to prove where she was. I think Kaine and Kyron were the scapegoats taking all the blame for any and everything wrong. A sudden flash of temper with swift punishment, if anything happened involving her IMO. Then a freakout with thinking of running off, but deciding against it. Unless someone came through to help hide him at last minute before good plans could be made. There should be some proof of that by now though or someone talking.

 

[DreamyEye]

I'm still on the fence and still trying to keep an open mind toward all possibilities. I think Terri's nature is brittle enough that she could have snapped and lashed out, causing harm to Kyron unexpectedly rather than it being planned. It's not that this would seem out of character for her at all.

The problem I have with the theory though, is imagining this happening inside the school or in the parking lot. How would she conceal him, get him loaded into her truck, and drive off with him without anyone seeing a bit of it? Not the violent outburst or "accident," not moving him to the truck. I think whoever did what to Kyron, it was planned to some extent, at least in the sense of knowing where the good hiding places would be, roughly where the big groups of people would be--and which areas would be relatively vacant, and what kind of incentives or suggestions would succeed in getting Kyron himself to cooperate.