Found Deceased WI - Elijah Vue, 3 year old Elijah Vue, Two Rivers, 20 Feb 2024 #2

[Mel 1303]

Amber Alert issued for missing boy in Manitowoc County

Two Rivers police: 3-year-old last seen Tuesday morning.

www.wisn.com

Elijah Vue, missing in Wisconsin

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[Knitty]

Please continue here.

Elijah Vue update: Police say human remains identified as missing Wisconsin toddler who disappeared more than 6 months ago

Human remains found in a Wisconsin town last weekend have been identified as missing 3-year-old Elijah Vue, who disappeared more than six months ago.

www.nbcchicago.com

 

[MsMarple]

Now that Elijah’s remains are confirmed I wonder if Vang’s and/or Baur’s charges will be upgraded to murder. I’m a little worried that the ME will have a difficult time determining a COD but hoping that LE has enough evidence to go ahead with murder charges anyway.

Right now Vang is scheduled for a status conference on September 27 and Baur is scheduled for a status conference on October 22 due to her recently having a new attorney appointed. Will those dates change now? I’m expecting things to slow down a bit but hopefully we’ll quickly learn about any new charges.
MOO

Two Rivers police to provide update on search for missing Elijah Vue

Police say local, state and federal officials will be present at the 4:30 p.m. Friday briefing to provide updates.

fox11online.com

 

[Chimera]

Rest in gentle peace, sweet little Elijah !

May justice be swift and harsh.
Omo.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

CNN September 13, 2024 online article by Zoe Sottile entitled ‘Remains of Elijah Vue, Wisconsin toddler missing since February, found in thick wooded area’:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/us/elijah-vue-remains-found-wisconsin/index.html

His remains were discovered on September 7, 2024 according to the article. Excerpt from the article: “The toddler’s remains were found on private property just over three miles northwest of where he was originally reported missing…”

Wondering if that is a practical distance for the toddler to have travelled on his own at the time of his disappearance. RIP Elijah. MOO

 

[gitana1]

Now that Elijah’s remains are confirmed I wonder if Vang’s and/or Baur’s charges will be upgraded to murder. I’m a little worried that the ME will have a difficult time determining a COD but hoping that LE has enough evidence to go ahead with murder charges anyway.

Right now Vang is scheduled for a status conference on September 27 and Baur is scheduled for a status conference on October 22 due to her recently having a new attorney appointed. Will those dates change now? I’m expecting things to slow down a bit but hopefully we’ll quickly learn about any new charges.
MOO

Two Rivers police to provide update on search for missing Elijah Vue

Police say local, state and federal officials will be present at the 4:30 p.m. Friday briefing to provide updates.

fox11online.com

That’s what I came here to find out.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

Wondering if that is a practical distance for the toddler to have travelled on his own at the time of his disappearance. RIP Elijah. MOO

It is probably possible that he could have been capable of walking three miles. However, I think it would be much too much of a coincidence for him to have waked three miles to a site that is across the street from where he once lived with his mother. I'll never believe that.

 

[PommyMommy]

 

[Rhenish]

Sad for this little guy. May he rest in peace and be forever free from torment. Just why, I always wonder, just why?

 

[NCWatcher]

CNN September 13, 2024 online article by Zoe Sottile entitled ‘Remains of Elijah Vue, Wisconsin toddler missing since February, found in thick wooded area’:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/us/elijah-vue-remains-found-wisconsin/index.html

His remains were discovered on September 7, 2024 according to the article. Excerpt from the article: “The toddler’s remains were found on private property just over three miles northwest of where he was originally reported missing…”

Wondering if that is a practical distance for the toddler to have travelled on his own at the time of his disappearance. RIP Elijah. MOO

I wonder too but doubt it. I also think

1) The 3+ mile estimate noted in articles is likely an "as the crow flies" distance, not a realistic estimate of the true walking distance from Vang's apartment to where the remains were found.

2) Even if Elijah could have walked that far in the winter when he was apparently not dressed for outdoor weather, I seriously doubt a toddler could have walked that far without somebody seeing him and intervening. It's not as though a 3-year old would be trying to hide his movements from people who were out and about. (Nor could he IMO.) Even if people didn't know he was missing, few people would ignore a toddler walking around by himself.

3) I doubt a toddler would walk from open areas like the streets/sidewalks outside Vang's apartment into a thickly wooded area. Children found "in the woods" are usually older than toddlers and were often trying to run away or at least hide from parents. Or if they are toddlers they were already in the woods with family camping, hiking, or picnicking when they got lost OR they were currently living in a house right on the edge of the forest where they were eventually found. None of that seems to be the case here.

4) I seriously doubt a wandering toddler would just happen to head for an area near where he used to live with his mother when he was younger. Toddlers are hardly like dogs or cats who try to return to an old home.
MOO

 

[Rhenish]

Vang and Baur. I hope they are both held accountable for this innocent's life. I do not believe that Elijah wandered anywhere. I believe he was callously discarded by two inept adults that are directly responsible for his death.

 

[Chypre]

I hope time isn't even wasted on an Elijah wandering theory.
The photo of Elijah blindfolded and bruised knocks that right down.

 

[NCWatcher]

I hope time isn't even wasted on an Elijah wandering theory.
The photo of Elijah blindfolded and bruised knocks that right down.

I don't buy the he wandered off theory either. But IMO the photo really does nothing to rule out that theory.

We have no evidence the photo was of a child who was already dead. So IMO we should assume he was still alive then. Abuse could easily make a child who is able to walk try to leave the place where he's been abused and make him try to get away from the person abusing him, particularly if the abuser isn't a parent and the place abuse has taken place isn't home.
MOO

 

[swanniee11]

So sad, either way you look at it, they are responsible for this. I don't think he wondered there either. IMO

 

[Chypre]

I don't buy the he wandered off theory either. But IMO the photo really does nothing to rule out that theory.

We have no evidence the photo was of a child who was already dead. So IMO we should assume he was still alive then. Abuse could easily make a child who is able to walk try to leave the place where he's been abused and make him try to get away from the person abusing him, particularly if the abuser isn't a parent and the place abuse has taken place isn't home.
MOO

I know the defence can say those things but we know an alive 3 year old with those bruises really could stretch reasonable doubt walking three miles.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Authorities have confirmed that what started as a missing person investigation has now transitioned to a death investigation. The Two Rivers Police Department says they’ll continue to provide updates as they can but are asking the public to remain patient as the investigation will take significant time.

“Now that we know the location where Elijah was located off of Christy Bob Lane and Manitou Drive, we ask that anybody with any information, if you haven’t previously provided it or you think it may be useful in this investigation, to please contact us,” concluded Police Chief Meinnert

https://www.wbtw.com/news/national/police-confirm-skeletal-remains-belong-to-missing-wisconsin-toddler-elijah-vue/

 

[Chypre]

I know the defence can say those things but we know an alive 3 year old with those bruises really could stretch reasonable doubt walking three miles.

At least, I hope.

 

[iamshadow21]

I know the defence can say those things but we know an alive 3 year old with those bruises really could stretch reasonable doubt walking three miles.

I don't think that little boy walked anywhere.

It's a hard thing to wish for, but I hope that his bones are able to tell the forensic anthropologist exactly what happened to him. I strongly suspect he was beaten to death. Unlike something like smothering, blunt force trauma can leave clear skeletal trauma.

MOO

 

[Palisades]

I don't think that little boy walked anywhere.

It's a hard thing to wish for, but I hope that his bones are able to tell the forensic anthropologist exactly what happened to him. I strongly suspect he was beaten to death. Unlike something like smothering, blunt force trauma can leave clear skeletal trauma.

MOO

Now that location is known, I hope there are witnesses that saw something that is now incriminating who come forward.

 

[NCWatcher]

I know the defence can say those things but we know an alive 3 year old with those bruises really could stretch reasonable doubt walking three miles.

By the time there are arrests for murder and a trial (assuming that happens as one would expect), I'd certainly hope the state has more evidence than a deleted photo of a bruised child taken with the mother's cell phone and the location of the remains. I expect LE has had evidence we don't know about all along and I'd expect the autopsy and the area where the remains were found to yield more information. But while very suspicious, if the photo and the location of the remains is all the state has, yes, IMO that's reasonable doubt re: anyone being convicted of murder.
MOO