AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #23

[Jazzy5980]

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[sbsuzilight]

Yes, I agree. There is definitely something odd about this, especially since they lived 20 miles away.

 

[tiffkinsadder]

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/barron+county+call+log.pdf

Page 6 shows where he called in at 9:40 am. I’m guessing their sister contacted him? One of the sister’s names is listed first on the log and must be the first family member contacted??
I found the log really interesting to read.

**so sorry! I managed to quote the wrong post /:

That’s okay! It is interesting to read!

 

[Jhhb91]

The teen girls driving by did raise my eyebrow in the early days when that information was released via the call log. They were told to go on. It is suspicious, certainly, but as time has gone by, it must be an innocuous event, right?

I kind of just brushed it off in the beginning too as just noseyness by some locals and I really thought this would be solved quickly (for some reason I don’t know). As time has gone on and I keep looking at the surrounding events and information, I’ve gone back to considering every little thing. Now everyone seems so suspicious to me!

 

[BeeGirl]

I’m also mulling over something from the article @SadSadPanda posted earlier:

The phone from which the call was made lay on the floor inside the modest, taupe-colored home.

"The phone isn’t near anyone so I don’t know if it got kicked," Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald of Barron County told Fox News on Tuesday. "It was closer to Denise than to James."

"No one talked on that call and we don't know who made it. We heard voices but we can’t make out what was said," he said, adding that it sounded as though the call was made in a room separate from the commotion.
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I think Denise made the call just after James was shot. He likely shot her immediately as the call connected (force of the gunshot made the phone go flying) and went straight to Jayme, which is the commotion heard on the call.

 

[tiffkinsadder]

This all seems so random to me and the events surrounding the murder keep adding on and making it even more odd! Someone “busts” in and shoots 2 dead, takes a 13 year old, 911 call appears to not give much info. All 3 phones of the people living in the house accounted for. Whomever responsible happens to leave in the *exact* opposite direction of all LE responding. The car descriptions given covered quite a few options and then seemed to be dropped from consideration. The highway they live on must have some activity because two 17-18 girls are interested enough to drive by enough at 2 am on a Monday morning to be asked to leave. Then the seemingly quick Miami sighting of Jayme, which would require flying. Neighbors honestly have no clue what they “think” they heard. Other neighbor(s) later busted as “meth heads”. Put cameras up (?) panty raider creep rides his bike out there?? (My husband is still shaking his head at that one) No one seems to be able to give any information about the family that would lead in any direction.
It’s all just...odd, I don’t know how else to describe it. My ideas flip back and forth and I agree with everyone’s ideas posted on here every time I read a possible scenario.. odd!

That was a great summary!

 

[stephlovescheese]

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/barron+county+call+log.pdf

This might help. It raised a few more questions for me...jmo!

thank you for posting this- i hadn’t seen this before. And for some reason, reading the sequence of events in this format, is making me cry. Wow.

 

[sbsuzilight]

Just wondering if anyone has posted a layout of the house inside?

 

[Jhhb91]

I’m also mulling over something from the article @SadSadPanda posted earlier:

The phone from which the call was made lay on the floor inside the modest, taupe-colored home.

"The phone isn’t near anyone so I don’t know if it got kicked," Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald of Barron County told Fox News on Tuesday. "It was closer to Denise than to James."

"No one talked on that call and we don't know who made it. We heard voices but we can’t make out what was said," he said, adding that it sounded as though the call was made in a room separate from the commotion.
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I think Denise made the call just after James was shot. He likely shot her immediately as the call connected (force of the gunshot made the phone go flying) and went straight to Jayme, which is the commotion heard on the call.

Interesting thought, I could see that happening. There’s some reason(s) this call didn’t provide much clarity or clues to LE.

 

[Jabarn]

does the call log not sound like one or both parents could have still been a little bit alive? first call log I have ever seen. sounds like might have been alive just enough to maybe not call them expired yet? but not alive enough to do anything that could help them? I don't know that is why I am asking. if so that could be how they know a short time for the attack in addition to the 911 call?

That does makes sense. Maybe 911 call responders were worried about that, based on the 911 call with no one talking directly to them, and once the first responders arrived, and coming across James Cross’ body, made an assumption.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

thank you for posting this- i hadn’t seen this before. And for some reason, reading the sequence of events in this format, is making me cry. Wow.

I think we try to maintain a distance in effort to be objective and helpful and at some point the smallest or simplest thing breaks through the wall and hits hard.

 

[Nerissa]

jhhb91
Well......I feel LE is talking outta two sides of their mouths RE the 911 call...
Its one of their primary clues according to a recent, & seemingly accurate article (along with the door being another clue)...

It confirmed, among other evidence, that Jayme was there.

It seems to lead them to believe the perp(s) might not have been in the home long...

But, oh no.....there's simply just nothing there....hmmmmmmmm

Yeah, well....
I sorta think there is ya know

(btw I have total respect for LE just not buying the '911 call told us nothing' line)

 

[Stunned]

Very odd.

Residents don't expect two of their own to be murdered at home. They aren't used to a teenage girl vanishing in the middle of the night. The flurry of media attention, which has waned since the early days of the investigation, is far from routine.

And experts say this case is not just unique to Barron — it's unusual, period.

Barron in limbo as one month passes since Jayme Closs disappearance, parents' murders

Who does expect this? No one I know. (Hopefully) except if you know an addict.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

LE notified casino. Staff maybe notified family?
LE notified school officer. He notified the brother?
LE attended the turkey plant. Word got around to the staff and a friend called the brother?
LE advises the aunt and she called her brother?

The brother may have been listed on Jaymes school emergency call list so the resource officer contacted him for possible whereabouts?

 

[1987]

That does makes sense. Maybe 911 call responders were worried about that, based on the 911 call with no one talking directly to them, and once the first responders arrived, and coming across James Cross’ body, made an assumption.

it says suicide attempt, attempt sounds like not completely expired and request ems to stage. I don't know what the means? if didn't have LE eyes on yet then why say attempt?

 

[Stunned]

The teen girls driving by did raise my eyebrow in the early days when that information was released via the call log. They were told to go on. It is suspicious, certainly, but as time has gone by, it must be an innocuous event, right?

Ummmm.......didn’t know about this.

 

[MsBetsy]

If there is little DNA at the scene then this suggests it was something planned...
& the fact it may appear unplanned is part of the plan

Why? So little DNA...
If planned & the perp(s) have a couple neurons to rub together they'd put on some sort of mask, like those that wrap over your head.....cover your nose & mouth.
No hairs left, no saliva...
They would wear gloves: no fingerprints

Only thing here: it was October & had snowed a bit: not sure how a well planned perp(s) could cover any footprints: their shoes would be wet/moist & possibly track dirt/mud
Also: car tracks in the gravel drive...

Those perp(s) could have shot James & then been holding Denise & Jayme hostage...until 'something' happened.....911 called, commotion ensue...

That is what the sheriff was addressing during the last interview, the fact that not much evidence was left behind. He stated they were likely only in that house for about 4 minutes, it was very fast. The less time they are there, the less DNA or other evidence is present. Imo

 

[cj1132]

I see absolutely no reason to release the 911 call.

 

[CuriousMaine]

I see an increase in break-ins in my area (monitoring my neighborhood’s Nextdoor web-based group), and they do tend to involve teens or young twenty-somethings. Home owners are tired of it, and some are publishing pictures from their door cams of the offenders (it seems there is always more than one and none I can think of as being a lone wolf).

In the cases you are seeing with the bold risks, where the parents are killed, is there any common denominator as far as the motive?

BBM: Sexual predation?

 

[Stunned]

Something went very wrong in this house (have a problem with calling it home, at this point) we may never know
what. God help Jayme.