AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #4

[Inthedetails]

Ok what can I post without getting in trouble? There has been a photo shared of FBI presence in another location nearby right before call for search volunteers.

Make sure the photo is from MSM or LE - not just some random person posting a photo online.

jmo

 

[Birmingplumb]

Tip from the meth house raid this am?

 

[human]

This reminds me, that the killer could have pulled up a floor plan.

If only we could find the floor plan

 

[elektroangel]

Where was it shared?

A closed FB group filled with a lot of locals. <modsnip - rumor>

 

[kkdj]

That's where they're meeting. Hard to meet in the middle of a field.

Are there cameras there that LE could peruse at a later time?

 

[oviedo]

Routine search does not sound right does it. There are miles of land to search. Hope it is based on something

I agree. This is a press release posted on facebook so I would imagine it has been reviewed extensively. Something is up. IMO

 

[Wagtales10]

It's not my question but drugs + internet can = chaos. I think with some above that the latter also played a deadly role.

there are a ton of things that can cause chaos but none of them have credible leads. I was just wondering if I missed any actual evidence of drugs or internet older man.

imo

 

[HayLouise]

Couple photos for you from Hwy 8 & 16th Street in Barron. No law enforcement visible here now. A couple car dealerships & other businesses. Prolly 3 miles or so from #JaymeCloss family home. Sheriff has called for public search here at 2pm.




Paul Blume on Twitter

 

[PommyMommy]

I think your "crane" is a cell tower.

Thanks, I couldn't tell and I thought I was looking for a water tower for some reason! Lol

 

[cheko1]

On Monday as I was watching the News about 6 a.m. KSTP was sending a crew to Barron to cover the shooting. It wasn't known who was shot or Jayme was missing at that time. They stated that it was a horrific crime scene & any LE would have to have extensive counseling from such a horrendous murder.

 

[margarita25]

Sigh.... a family can't be safe in their own home anymore.

People haven’t been safe for a long time I’m afraid, jmo. Abductions and Home invasion murders have been occurring for a long time.

Now is good time to update your home security if you haven’t already, moo. No place is safe anymore and people need to protect themselves and their families. There are just too many many nutjob running around. As I’ve said in other cases, the days of keeping your doors unlocked are way gone. Moo.

 

[Saribella]

A closed FB group filled with a lot of locals. <modsnip - rumor >

I feel like they got something big today too.

 

[Lorelei1]

It could be that the suspects covered her mouth from behind and they hung up the phone.

That makes sense, yes. But if LE arrived 4 minutes after either the beginning of the call or the end and the call only lasted 45 seconds, I think I read, it’s surprising there was no sign of anyone around. They must have left very quickly and quietly.

 

[Quill]

Whoa... that could be relevant to the situation.

The original post being replied to was that of someone who had the wrong house come up on google when searching.

Interesting. With all of the talk about the meth angle but not really seeing connection as of yet with this family, could this be a case of the perp invading the wrong house? Interesting angle. I'm also factoring in other illegal activities that LE have dealt with nearby in the last 24 hours. If that is the case, then all bets are off as far as trying to make sense of the behaviors. I haven't fully thought it through as I type, so feel free to add on as we go.

 

[Inthedetails]

This reminds me, that the killer could have pulled up a floor plan.

If the perp is local, I think he could guess at the floor plan. To me, this looks like a very typical house - the houses like this are mostly the same, with a few minor variations.

JMO (I haven't lived in the general area for a long time.)

 

[HayLouise]

Search for Jayme Closs enters 4th day as Wisconsin police prepare to comb area near girl's home

Fox News on Twitter

 

[bc_in_ec]

The neighbor said the shots were in quick succession. This doesn’t necessarily mean that both of them answered the door though.

It’s a small house, he would have located the wife within seconds. She may have shadowed her husband to the door, and made things even easier for the killer.

I think that too many people are getting fixated on the concept of there only being two shots. I would think that even in the heat of the moment, that someone (drug riddled or not) would shoot twice just for one victim. The location and direction of the shot could likely hinder the sound.

I, of course, don't have any evidence to prove this.. But I think it will come out that there were more than just two shots fired. I would like to think that killing someone would not be so easy that they could shoot two people in different parts of the house (even mere feet away), with just two bullets.

 

[margarita25]

Gosh I agree! And, any PC forensics should have led them to someone by now.
I am extremely worried that she is lying somewhere near her home, and I feel so awful for her family and friends.
I do not like her photo being on the company website page.
and I hope that all fired employees are under scrutiny.

“I am extremely worried that she is lying somewhere near her home,”

This is a possibility that can not be excluded, imo. Especially if the parents were the target and he took Jamie as insurance/hostage to ensure a clean getaway.

 

[margarita25]

Curious why they would look to these people first if no evidence makes them a possible suspect?

Standard procedure in an investigation like this.

 

[Wagtales10]

I get the sense that this was a chaotic and not very well planned crime. To me, it feels like an out of control person on drugs. And if drugs are involved, then all reason and “does this make sense” goes out the window. As for why not use the gun on this poor little girl, that’s what I mean— he maybe didn’t know she was there, and didn’t have his gun loaded, or he had emptied the gun on the parents and was out of bullets— who knows.

A lot of shotguns (I’m going out on a limb and guessing shotgun, since neighbor described a “big” sounding gun) don’t hold many bullets. They commonly hold only 3 bullets. If the perp was panicked and wanted to get out of there, it may have seemed faster to just throw her in the car and speed off, rather than mess with killing her knowing the police were on the way.

gotcha, imo I doubt a drugged up addict can be this clean in what happened.