AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #8

[Mdawg008]

Also described as a shy quiet close family with a shy quiet daughter....

IMO

The the more I look back at the Short case the more eerily similar they seem. Especially the fact that the home phone line of the Short’s was physically cut. It hasn’t been made clear yet though whether the Closs’ home phone line was physically “disconnected” or disconnected in that they had a home phone but canceled their service. I’m curious to know which option is the case.

 

[katydid23]

You cannot accrue 'gambling debts' at a local Indian Casino. They demand cash upfront.

You may end up maxing out your credit cards, and emptying your bank account. But you wouldn't owe the casino anything. You'd owe your creditors. And Chase Bank is not sending a hit squad after the family. They'd foreclose on the house, and we didn't see any evidence that they are in financial difficulty.

 

[nwmouse]

Not quite true... The SUN is the worst ! In more ways than one !!!

LOL! Yep, kind of like Pravda.
They will report on things like baby Martians born in Walmart changing rooms etc.
Occasionally Radar comes up with some good info.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
MOO.

 

[MsBetsy]

Would someone doing an home invasion not pick the locks instead of trying to kick a door down that will make a lot of noise

Maybe he tried and was unsuccessful. Maybe that's why the dad went to the door, hearing the noise, and ultimately the intruder kicked in the door. Jmo

 

[CuriousMaine]

I'm new, still trying to navigate. I'm looking for an answer to a question, I haven't found anything specific in the rules so I'll just ask here ...

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There is no personal,nor identifying information given, only job title/type, plant location, date, then comment, pros and cons.

 

[carmenugt]

Well IMO, the neighbor heard gun shots, however, we don't know that those were the first shots towards the victims. One person could have already been killed by the time the neighbor got home and then heard the shots from the second killing.

Great point, The neighbors said they arrived home just prior to hearing the gunshots. I thought they said midnight.? They said the went to bed around 12:15. They were awakened at 12:31. YOu make a very good point.

 

[_Jane_Doe_]

Burglars don't enter from the front door. They use access that is out of view from street. This is red flag #1 for me.

They can, and do.

 

[plumloco]

Sorry if this has been posted already.
Sheriff Dept. searches for Barron Co. inmate who didn’t return from work release

 

[crhedBngr]

Sorry if this has been posted already.
Sheriff Dept. searches for Barron Co. inmate who didn’t return from work release

Great catch, plumloco! More food for thought.

 

[MsBetsy]

LOL! Yep, kind of like Pravda.
They will report on things like baby Martians born in Walmart changing rooms etc.
Occasionally Radar comes up with some good info.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
MOO.

Not enough to depend on, imo. I don't trust a news source that is so often misleading and unreliable. How can we determine what's accurate and what's not?

 

[bears10]

We have little casinos on Indian Reservations out here and I never noticed any loan sharks patrolling the floor. Most people play the slots or blackjack and enjoy the buffets or decent restaurants within the establishment.

Now people can easily gamble their rent money away fairly quickly. But I don't think the casino house will credit you like that in these smaller casinos. Idk

Plus if he owns his house then a equity loan would suffice to pay back whatever. Idk. I guess we are all just brainstorming for now.

I frequent AC and Vegas and my husband used to, um, really like gambling. With bookies as well as casinos. I think the casino-loan shark thing is far fetched. Casinos are very different from bookies and loan sharks. Casinos will give you credit if you meet the criteria and it’s much more formal than booking a bet with a loan shark. You don’t go to a casino to book a bet you can’t afford. JMO

 

[Slowmotion]

2 addicts plan a ransack for money. 1 addict decides to leave no witnesses while snatching the girl at the last minute.

The other submissive addict wants to say something but knows they will be charged with 2 capital murder charges regardless. Idk. Its just a possible.

2 capital murder chargers<Robbery, at least thats my thinking on it. Who knows what runs through peoples heads, but whoever did this is crazy so you just never know i guess and anything could be a possible

 

[CuriousMaine]

Sorry if this has been posted already.
Sheriff Dept. searches for Barron Co. inmate who didn’t return from work release

More recent Update: UPDATE: Barron Co. Huber walkaway found

 

[SJ16321]

The gunshots were only seconds apart so I assume she was shot right away and would not have been able to hide. If anyone hid, I think it was Jayme and she somehow managed to make the call. It seems by the time the call was connected she had been seperated from the phone, as they said only background noise was heard. The perp may have realized the call was made and got out fast. Imo

It's been said that Jayme screamed help on the 911 call in one of the media things I read. It would make sense for her to scream for help if she knew the line was connected to 911 but she wasn't close enough to the phone to speak into it. This cry for help might have alerted the perp(s) to the mums mobile and then they see the 911 call, terminate it and get out of there ASAP taking Jayme with them.

 

[MsBetsy]

Great point, The neighbors said they arrived home just prior to hearing the gunshots. I thought they said midnight.? They said the went to bed around 12:15. They were awakened at 12:31. YOu make a very good point.

They said they got home at 11:30, if I remember correctly.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

LE determined Jayme was there by listening to the 911 call, yes?

Stands to reason they heard other voices as well, right?

 

[Slowmotion]

I frequent AC and Vegas and my husband used to, um, really like gambling. With bookies as well as casinos. I think the casino-loan shark thing is far fetched. Casinos are very different from bookies and loan sharks. Casinos will give you credit if you meet the criteria and it’s much more formal than booking a bet with a loan shark. You don’t go to a casino to book a bet you can’t afford. JMO

As someone who enjoys AC also you are 100% correct. Casinos aint in the business of losing money. You aint going to any casino on credit unless you are well known. Ive heard of people like Michael Jordan having credit lines but a factory worker...? No way.

 

[carmenugt]

Casinos always have surveillance cameras. Some of the cameras will point towards the highway.

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You can buy gift cards for those games so you might be able to get around providing personal info if you really wanted to.

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[Trocroc9]

No. <modsnip - discussing other posters>. We have no knowledge that James had any current debts nor is there any evidence James has ever stepped foot in a casino. I haven't even seen a social media post saying he bought lotto tickets let alone anything to support the theory he had a gambling problem. I feel like without any evidence this theory starts to dance towards victim blaming as posters start stating it again and again as if it is fact without qualifying their posts. JMO.

But we have no knowledge of anyt
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Not victim blaming at all just trying to think of possible scenarios which is what we do best on web sleuthing..we have so little info and just try to figure things out based on our intellect, experiences in life and hope that we can help

 

[MsBetsy]

It's been said that Jayme screamed help on the 911 call in one of the media things I read. It would make sense for her to scream for help if she knew the line was connected to 911 but she wasn't close enough to the phone to speak into it. This cry for help might have alerted the perp(s) to the mums mobile and then they see the 911 call, terminate it and get out of there ASAP taking Jayme with them.

Yes, I'm thinking the noise in the background is mostly her crying or yelling and the perp struggling to get her out the door. Maybe he bound her first, or gagged her to prevent her screaming. Jmo