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This is exactly what I would expect from this family.
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Nov 12, 4:19 PM EST
Woman's death latest legal run-in for Averys
By TODD RICHMOND and CARRIE ANTLFINGER
Associated Press Writers
WHITELAW, Wis. (AP) -- The Avery family and the police don't mix. Never have.
Friday night, just hours after prosecutors announced Steven Avery would face a murder charge in the death of a Hilbert woman, his older brother, Chuck, popped the trunks of his family's cars. He said he wanted to make sure Manitowoc County Sheriff's deputies hadn't planted more trouble for them.
"We're really on edge," he said outside his brother Earl's farmhouse as darkness fell.
Steven Avery spent 18 years in prison for a rape he didn't commit before DNA evidence exonerated him. He filed a $36 million wrongful conviction lawsuit against Manitowoc County.
But now that same DNA science that got him out of prison could send him back. Searchers found 25-year-old freelance photographer Teresa Halbach's sport utility vehicle in the Avery family's junkyard, and prosecutors say DNA tests prove Avery's blood is in the vehicle. He could face a charge of first-degree intentional homicide as early as Monday.
Avery's family says he's being framed to stop his lawsuit and fear deputies could cart them away next.
"The only thing I can think, they are trying to railroad me again and see if they can get away with it this time," Steven Avery, 43, said before he was arrested.
Calumet County District Attorney Ken Kratz says that's absurd. A judge appointed him to handle the case because he's from another jurisdiction, he said, adding DNA analysis has confirmed blood in Halbach's vehicle is Avery's.
Kratz said he's tired of addressing conspiracy theories. Planting evidence would mean someone is running around with vials of Avery's DNA, looking for a crime scene to splatter it over, Kratz said.
"It is not possible the evidence ... is tainted evidence or was in any way planted by a Manitowoc County law enforcement agency or any law enforcement agency, for that matter," Kratz said.
The Avery family has run Avery's Auto Salvage in the farm fields outside Mishicot, a hamlet of 1,400 people 25 miles southeast of Green Bay, since the 1950s. The 40-acre property, surrounded by berms and fences, has more than 3,000 vehicles, two mobile homes and two houses.
Some neighbors say the family is helpful.
"If you asked for a favor, you would get it from all of them," said Jim Geux, 49, who lived on a farm near the Averys until 2002.
Others were more guarded, saying they still have to live near the Averys. Harold Stahl, 80, of Mishicot, said he used to deal with the family when he was a tow truck driver.
"They are an odd lot," Stahl said.
The brothers have been in and out of trouble with the law in Manitowoc County for years.
According to court documents:
-Chuck, 51, was charged with second-degree sexual assault in 1988, but a jury acquitted him in 1989. In 1998, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct and got 12 months probation. His probation was revoked six months later and he was sentenced to 60 days in jail. In 1999, his former wife accused him of sexually assaulting her and wrapping a phone cord around her neck. A charge of third-degree sexual assault was ultimately dismissed in 2003.
-Earl, 35, pleaded no contest to battery and fourth-degree sexual assault and got three years of probation on each charge in 1996. In 1992, he pleaded no contest to a charge of battery for attacking his wife. He got 18 months' probation and was ordered to attend counseling.
-Steven was convicted in 1981 of felony burglary. He got five years probation, which was revoked in 1982 after he was charged with animal cruelty for pouring gas on a cat and throwing it into a bonfire to die.
In 1985 he was convicted of sexually assaulting a 36-year-old woman on a Lake Michigan beach. A judge sentenced him to 32 years in prison. In 2003, he was freed after serving 18 years, after DNA samples proved another man committed the rape.
A state Department of Justice investigation cleared Manitowoc County authorities of any ethical violations in Avery's conviction, but state lawmakers used his case to push legislation designed to reduce wrongful convictions and Avery's lawsuit is pending.
Meanwhile, life on the outside has been a struggle. Avery is engaged to be married, but he doesn't have much money. He has lived in an ice shanty and struggled to rebuild ties with his five children.
Roland Johnson, an Avery family friend, let Steven move into a trailer Johnson owns that sits next to the junkyard. The Averys are good people, he said.
"They were always nice to me," Johnson said. Steven did some dumb things as a young man, but he isn't stupid enough to murder someone on his own property, Johnson said.
"It just sounds too phony to me. The whole set-up sounds ridiculous," Johnson said.
According to investigators, Halbach pulled into the Avery junkyard on a chilly, rainy Halloween afternoon. Auto Trader Magazine sent her to take pictures of a minivan Avery hoped to sell.
No one heard from her again.
Dozens of her family and friends combed farms, caves and ditches looking for any sign of her. On Nov. 5, a worker at the Avery junkyard let them search the grounds.
They found Halbach's green Toyota Rav4. According to search warrants, it was hidden by branches and auto parts. Investigators found blood on the ignition and in the rear cargo area, blood on a door to Steven's trailer and in Steven's bathroom.
They also discovered handcuffs, leg irons, pornographic materials and what the search warrants described as "sexual devices" - and a woman's charred bones and teeth.
Sheriff's deputies drew DNA samples from Steven, Chuck, Earl, their parents, their sister, Barb Janda, and her two adult sons. They arrested Steven Wednesday after they discovered two guns in his trailer. Convicted felons aren't allowed to possess firearms in Wisconsin.
Detectives are still questioning the rest of the Avery family. Chuck thinks any one of them could get hauled off next, given their histories and his brother's lawsuit. After all, $36 million could be at stake.
"We don't have nothing to do with it," Chuck said.
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Nov 12, 4:19 PM EST
Woman's death latest legal run-in for Averys
By TODD RICHMOND and CARRIE ANTLFINGER
Associated Press Writers
WHITELAW, Wis. (AP) -- The Avery family and the police don't mix. Never have.
Friday night, just hours after prosecutors announced Steven Avery would face a murder charge in the death of a Hilbert woman, his older brother, Chuck, popped the trunks of his family's cars. He said he wanted to make sure Manitowoc County Sheriff's deputies hadn't planted more trouble for them.
"We're really on edge," he said outside his brother Earl's farmhouse as darkness fell.
Steven Avery spent 18 years in prison for a rape he didn't commit before DNA evidence exonerated him. He filed a $36 million wrongful conviction lawsuit against Manitowoc County.
Avery's family says he's being framed to stop his lawsuit and fear deputies could cart them away next.
"The only thing I can think, they are trying to railroad me again and see if they can get away with it this time," Steven Avery, 43, said before he was arrested.
Calumet County District Attorney Ken Kratz says that's absurd. A judge appointed him to handle the case because he's from another jurisdiction, he said, adding DNA analysis has confirmed blood in Halbach's vehicle is Avery's.
Kratz said he's tired of addressing conspiracy theories. Planting evidence would mean someone is running around with vials of Avery's DNA, looking for a crime scene to splatter it over, Kratz said.
"It is not possible the evidence ... is tainted evidence or was in any way planted by a Manitowoc County law enforcement agency or any law enforcement agency, for that matter," Kratz said.
The Avery family has run Avery's Auto Salvage in the farm fields outside Mishicot, a hamlet of 1,400 people 25 miles southeast of Green Bay, since the 1950s. The 40-acre property, surrounded by berms and fences, has more than 3,000 vehicles, two mobile homes and two houses.
Some neighbors say the family is helpful.
"If you asked for a favor, you would get it from all of them," said Jim Geux, 49, who lived on a farm near the Averys until 2002.
Others were more guarded, saying they still have to live near the Averys. Harold Stahl, 80, of Mishicot, said he used to deal with the family when he was a tow truck driver.
"They are an odd lot," Stahl said.
The brothers have been in and out of trouble with the law in Manitowoc County for years.
According to court documents:
-Chuck, 51, was charged with second-degree sexual assault in 1988, but a jury acquitted him in 1989. In 1998, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct and got 12 months probation. His probation was revoked six months later and he was sentenced to 60 days in jail. In 1999, his former wife accused him of sexually assaulting her and wrapping a phone cord around her neck. A charge of third-degree sexual assault was ultimately dismissed in 2003.
-Earl, 35, pleaded no contest to battery and fourth-degree sexual assault and got three years of probation on each charge in 1996. In 1992, he pleaded no contest to a charge of battery for attacking his wife. He got 18 months' probation and was ordered to attend counseling.
-Steven was convicted in 1981 of felony burglary. He got five years probation, which was revoked in 1982 after he was charged with animal cruelty for pouring gas on a cat and throwing it into a bonfire to die.
In 1985 he was convicted of sexually assaulting a 36-year-old woman on a Lake Michigan beach. A judge sentenced him to 32 years in prison. In 2003, he was freed after serving 18 years, after DNA samples proved another man committed the rape.
A state Department of Justice investigation cleared Manitowoc County authorities of any ethical violations in Avery's conviction, but state lawmakers used his case to push legislation designed to reduce wrongful convictions and Avery's lawsuit is pending.
Meanwhile, life on the outside has been a struggle. Avery is engaged to be married, but he doesn't have much money. He has lived in an ice shanty and struggled to rebuild ties with his five children.
Roland Johnson, an Avery family friend, let Steven move into a trailer Johnson owns that sits next to the junkyard. The Averys are good people, he said.
"They were always nice to me," Johnson said. Steven did some dumb things as a young man, but he isn't stupid enough to murder someone on his own property, Johnson said.
"It just sounds too phony to me. The whole set-up sounds ridiculous," Johnson said.
According to investigators, Halbach pulled into the Avery junkyard on a chilly, rainy Halloween afternoon. Auto Trader Magazine sent her to take pictures of a minivan Avery hoped to sell.
No one heard from her again.
Dozens of her family and friends combed farms, caves and ditches looking for any sign of her. On Nov. 5, a worker at the Avery junkyard let them search the grounds.
They found Halbach's green Toyota Rav4. According to search warrants, it was hidden by branches and auto parts. Investigators found blood on the ignition and in the rear cargo area, blood on a door to Steven's trailer and in Steven's bathroom.
They also discovered handcuffs, leg irons, pornographic materials and what the search warrants described as "sexual devices" - and a woman's charred bones and teeth.
Sheriff's deputies drew DNA samples from Steven, Chuck, Earl, their parents, their sister, Barb Janda, and her two adult sons. They arrested Steven Wednesday after they discovered two guns in his trailer. Convicted felons aren't allowed to possess firearms in Wisconsin.
Detectives are still questioning the rest of the Avery family. Chuck thinks any one of them could get hauled off next, given their histories and his brother's lawsuit. After all, $36 million could be at stake.
"We don't have nothing to do with it," Chuck said.
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That whole Avery clan should give lessons in blaming other people, playing the victim, denying reality, lying and just generally making loathsome statements (IMHO). Families like this shouldn't be allowed to breed. (IMHO, MOO, etc., etc.)Yaya said:
Mother Delores "maintained that her son is innocent. 'I don't know why the hell they do that stuff,' she said of the plan to charge Avery with killing Halbach. 'They must like trying to wreck people's lives'. " :boohoo:
And on 11/7 when asked about Halbach, Steven Avery actually said she was "not my type", because he liked women who weren't as slim (as Halbach).
http://www.waow.com/news/full_story.php?id=38790
Here's a photo of SA playing his aggrieved victim role:
"Steven Avery wipes away tears while talking about his 18 years in prison."
http://www.jsonline.com/site/slideshow.asp?slideshowid=160&SlideOrder=14
:sick:
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Concernedperson, I'm right there beside you :furious: I expected as much too.concernedperson said:
I just don't understand how families can condone or defend another family member when the evidence is so strong against them. I know a lot of people feel blood is thicker than anything, but I am not one of those people.
My cousin was murdered during a robbery of the business he was working at... the 3 men were tried and found guilty of murder... their families could not have been nicer or more apologetic to our family. I appreciate those families to this day for their kindness to my aunt.
Gozgals, Where I'm from we call them "Ignorant White Trash "Gozgals said:
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The condoning happens all the time. It is almost a ritual of passage to some families. It is saying they are eccentric or odd but not really calling the problem. Like if they burn cats alive they would say Daddy always hated cats. This is my problem with certain families.I am older and have seen so much and wish that some of the behaviors would change. Actually, I have seen this on WS as the younger people who are well read are effecting change. This is my hope...knowledge gets spread faster than lore.
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Of course this guy is claiming the cops are framing him...Jeana (DP) said:
Wanna bet his defense attorney is going to argue since he did 18 years for a crime he DIDN'T commit, that he should have that time shaved off for the crime he DID commit?
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I hope they move quick on this guy. He's a monster I really don't want to have to hear about for the next couple of years.
I am wondering if she's the first one to disappear by his hands.
I am wondering if she's the first one to disappear by his hands.
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I don't care what this family says, LE seems to have enough DNA (blood) evidence etc., to indicate that Steve is good for this crime and should stand trial. Let a jury decide. LE has been maticulous in their evidence collection for this crime, they're not going to make any mistakes.
As far as his siblings saying they're wondering which one of them is next,........well, I'll tell ya, they should wonder, IMO. With their previous run in's with the law, even if they were found innocent or pleaded out, give the impression, from the outside looking in, there MAY be more to their story.
IF I were them, I'd definitely lay low.........just because a jury may have believed there was 'reasonable doubt' that certain members of the family weren't involved in 'other crimes,' doesn't mean that they were innocent. Just that there wasn't enough proof. Our system isn't perfect.
I personally went to a few days of the Alejandro Avila trial, who was found guilty of and sentenced to death for abducting, etc., little Samantha Runnion. He was found innocent in a previous case prior to him abducting Samantha, of sexual assault on two little girls, and it was because a jury didn't believe the little girls. Those jurors found out they were mistaken and it cost Samantha her life. It was irrefutable dna evidence that convicted Avila this time. The jury got it and they're going to get it in this case too.
This 'rush to judgement' and 'planting evidence' cra# defense is getting old. There was no 'planting evidence' in his first trial, it was an eye-witness mistake. It was the dna evidence (technology which wasn't available at the time of the original crime) that got him off. This time the dna evidence is on the other side of the street and quite possibly will convict him. :behindbar
As far as his $35 million lawsuit goes. I can't think of one person who would sit on a jury and award this man a dime. IF he's convicted of this crime,.....no way, no how. So his family better get over it. :croc:
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As far as his siblings saying they're wondering which one of them is next,........well, I'll tell ya, they should wonder, IMO. With their previous run in's with the law, even if they were found innocent or pleaded out, give the impression, from the outside looking in, there MAY be more to their story.
IF I were them, I'd definitely lay low.........just because a jury may have believed there was 'reasonable doubt' that certain members of the family weren't involved in 'other crimes,' doesn't mean that they were innocent. Just that there wasn't enough proof. Our system isn't perfect.
I personally went to a few days of the Alejandro Avila trial, who was found guilty of and sentenced to death for abducting, etc., little Samantha Runnion. He was found innocent in a previous case prior to him abducting Samantha, of sexual assault on two little girls, and it was because a jury didn't believe the little girls. Those jurors found out they were mistaken and it cost Samantha her life. It was irrefutable dna evidence that convicted Avila this time. The jury got it and they're going to get it in this case too.
This 'rush to judgement' and 'planting evidence' cra# defense is getting old. There was no 'planting evidence' in his first trial, it was an eye-witness mistake. It was the dna evidence (technology which wasn't available at the time of the original crime) that got him off. This time the dna evidence is on the other side of the street and quite possibly will convict him. :behindbar
As far as his $35 million lawsuit goes. I can't think of one person who would sit on a jury and award this man a dime. IF he's convicted of this crime,.....no way, no how. So his family better get over it. :croc:
JMHO
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Hate to say I that I felt for this man and hoped that he was innocent! Now all I can say is that I am so glad that he was wrongfully convicted because it may have saved another person's life in the 18 years he could have been running free!
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Anybody notice how fast Avery's lawyer walked off? If the lawsuit goes forward I doubt he'll be awarded anything more than 1.00 but I believe Teresa's family could sue for wrongful death to collect on anything he may ever get. Hopefully.
I agree Fran, his family needs to shut up as they aren't helping themselves and they come off as very unsympathetic to the victim and her family. If LE had been so interested in setting Avery up the hair that exonerated him would have been lost long ago, but we've seen LE targeted as scapegoats for criminals over and over and that's never gonna change.
He spoke with the media against his lawyers advice and there's an injury visible during an interview that they believe happened during the crime? The finger? Anybody know more about that? I can't find anything and when questioned he made the statement that Teresa wasn't his type? Does anyone else find that bizarre? No one knew what had happened to her at that point, his comment indicates a sexual assault when there could have been other scenarios.
I agree Fran, his family needs to shut up as they aren't helping themselves and they come off as very unsympathetic to the victim and her family. If LE had been so interested in setting Avery up the hair that exonerated him would have been lost long ago, but we've seen LE targeted as scapegoats for criminals over and over and that's never gonna change.
He spoke with the media against his lawyers advice and there's an injury visible during an interview that they believe happened during the crime? The finger? Anybody know more about that? I can't find anything and when questioned he made the statement that Teresa wasn't his type? Does anyone else find that bizarre? No one knew what had happened to her at that point, his comment indicates a sexual assault when there could have been other scenarios.
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I didn't hear that, but would love to.... that right there is way to strange. I mean this guy has no brains! Why didn't he just stand on top of the crime scene and tell them he just found it and was innocent.... He's done everything else to indite himself. I hope he will eventually just plead guilty and tell us all what really went on that sad, sad day.strach304 said:
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He offered this response before anyone knew anything other than that she was missing. Quite remarkably feebleminded, isn't he?....On top of being just brutishly evil. Assuming he is guilty, hell will have a special place waiting to roast this pig.Becba said:
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You have a really good way with words. And, BTW, I agree.
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At the last news conference, LE and the special prosecutor said the blood in TH's vehicle may have come from an injury/injuries on SA's hands that are visible in news footage. They said they might subpoena news videos of SA.strach304 said:
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I saw the video this a.m...they zeroed in on a cut..he said it happened moving some steel or something...
He also said he wouldn't do something like that..said she was really nice, did her job and was on her way.
At this point he is denying it...actually it's hard to read him..he doesn't look down, looks them straight in the eye...he "sounds" innocent. He is either a really good actor or really stupid.
Might charge him as early as today.
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