Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

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Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

  • YES.

    Votes: 211 43.9%

  • NO.

    Votes: 141 29.3%

  • NOT SURE.

    Votes: 129 26.8%
  • Total voters
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hey guys wouldnt they be able get the LI killer off the internet connections to craigs list or the phone calls he made to the victims via cell trace? seems like most criminals would make a mistake like this as they do not know it can be traced. odd that hes been able to pull off evading this for so long. One example, the craigs list killer, they busted him pretty fast also got his face off security camera footage at a hotel.
 
matthewnyc said:
hey guys wouldnt they be able get the LI killer off the internet connections to craigs list or the phone calls he made to the victims via cell trace? seems like most criminals would make a mistake like this as they do not know it can be traced. odd that hes been able to pull off evading this for so long. One example, the craigs list killer, they busted him pretty fast also got his face off security camera footage at a hotel.
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I wonder what site the killer will use now? Backpage was shutdown.
 
matthewnyc said:
hey guys wouldnt they be able get the LI killer off the internet connections to craigs list or the phone calls he made to the victims via cell trace? seems like most criminals would make a mistake like this as they do not know it can be traced. odd that hes been able to pull off evading this for so long. One example, the craigs list killer, they busted him pretty fast also got his face off security camera footage at a hotel.
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U would think.

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what if LISK was the same one who did the Boca Raton mall murders? What if it was the same person just graduated to more hatred of women?
 
On topic....

Of Course this sicko will be eventually caught....

Some day his poor family will have to bear the burden of how cruel and heartless he was to attack small weak women......coward.....must suffer some insecurities.

DNA collection and advancements in identifying assailants has advanced so much since his victims were found...

There will be dna that can be found......its now just up to the right investigators to exhume and find it...

Familial dna...will catch this coward...unless he plans on murdering every person in his family...opps...that would include extended family...lol..he could be busy...

If not...he best be getting some coloured contact lenses....as Phenotyping dna technology....will soon have a composite picture of what the coward looks like...that with what people already know about the jerk....people will put 2 n 2 together.

Only a matter of time coward.
 
Puggle said:
On topic....

Of Course this sicko will be eventually caught....

Some day his poor family will have to bear the burden of how cruel and heartless he was to attack small weak women......coward.....must suffer some insecurities.

DNA collection and advancements in identifying assailants has advanced so much since his victims were found...

There will be dna that can be found......its now just up to the right investigators to exhume and find it...

Familial dna...will catch this coward...unless he plans on murdering every person in his family...opps...that would include extended family...lol..he could be busy...

If not...he best be getting some coloured contact lenses....as Phenotyping dna technology....will soon have a composite picture of what the coward looks like...that with what people already know about the jerk....people will put 2 n 2 together.

Only a matter of time coward.
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I have no memory that any dna has been found on his victims. Am I missing something?
 
LISK will definitely be caught although the NY police did everything in their power to botch this case in the beginning. Too many things don't add up.They just took a lot of things for face value that normally wouldn't have happen in any other place. Shannon Gilbert never received help that night. They are trying to say she died of exposure but she could have also being going through something called excited delierium. People that have it sceam and yell and their heart is racing. It is also quite possible to think someone is after you. Police officers often have to chase these people down and it will take 5 or 6 of them to restrain the person until the paramedics come. Most of the time the person has been give GHB. You can't give narcan to reverse the effects in the ambulance so the person has to be taken immediately to the hospital. I doubt Shannon have purposely taken GHB knowing that she was bipolar. That would have interacted with her meds; however, people have been known to use it as a date rape drug victims not remember what happen to them the next day. GHB doesn't always show up in testing.If this is what happen to her this is why they would say it was an accident. Her date would just say she took it willingly. As for LISK I doubt he stopped killing, just like BTK. Unless he is already dead or locked up on something else he is stalking his next victims. Someone should go and reinterview the cop that found the first body. If he hadn't been a cop they would had dug into everything. I thing is mighty wierd that he finds the body and then somebody also put that mess on Wikipedia about the Foti guy using the police computer. I don't personally think it's the dog walker or Foti. I think he might have used his dog walking as an excuse to look for Shannon because his hands were tied buy the department and now his hands should be untied. I believe the dismembered bodies are a separate killer and the Jane Doe with the matching baby is a domestic violence situation gone wrong. I'm a domestic violence survivor and I here to tell you to me that's what that looks like. I know that police what's her to be a working girl and she may have been but I don't believe she took the child to turn a trick. The ladies of the night I know that have kids normally call their dates over and locks the kids in a separate room with some toys. She may have been trying to leave her situation because that is the most dangerous time and she didn't make it and he killed the baby too.
 
Data67 said:
the police did say that they believe it's only one killer...which makes me think they could have some kind of dna or forensic evidence that's connects the cases



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Only 4 are connected by MO. The rest is anyone's guess.
 
This is the updated profile of the Long Island Serial Killer from John Kelly's S.T.A.L.K. Inc. It was his profile and work that helped bring Gary Ridgeway to justice. As an educator, and one who teaches criminal profiling I think his updated profile was exceptionally done. He is taunting LISK, taunting him to get angry to get unhinged. Its in doing so that he is most likely to get enraged and act without thinking!

Its his rage, his anger, the time where he feels he's NOT in control of his life/actions that he is most likely to act without thinking, to act without his ability to be meticulous that will ultimately lead him to making a mistake and giving law enforcement the clues they need to lead them to his backyard!

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The updated Long Island Serial Killer - STALK PROFILE


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This killer is a sexual sadist who obtains a high from seeing women suffer and die. He enjoys watching violent *advertiser censored*. He is very familiar with the Long Island area and his dump sites. He is between the ages of 34 and 50. He has had and is known for having a long-time fascination with Law-Enforcement and has acquired police paraphernalia over the years. He is very literate with computers and communications in general. Because of this he is probably very adept at computer generated sounds, voices or phrases. He could be a collector of cell phones, not only of ones belonging to the victims. He is above average in intelligence. He drives an enclosed vehicle, probably a van. He is a very organized person, with a “place for everything and everything in its place”, and the word controlling could be his middle name. He hates women and, historically, probably physically abused them in relationships. He probably feels that his mother didn’t take care of him when he was a child, and/or he has been betrayed by women through a lack of nurturing or through their infidelity.

He is a very auditory person who can be a charming talker who also socializes well. He’s probably a major bragger about himself to others on what he believes are his accomplishments. He will probably not brag about the murders. He has an affinity for social networking sites, especially Craigslist, to search for his victims from a pool of escort service providers. He has the luxury to be able to spend a lot of time on the phone qualifying his victims to find the right one of opportunity. He has a way of finding out which prostitutes don’t have a driver, pimp or someone watching over them. Perhaps he utilizes a voice stress analyzer. The majority of the women he called have not met his criteria for him to make them victims because they were too much of a risk for him; somehow he knew through his conversation that they had someone watching over them. The phone is this predator’s thing, for sure. He probably has a history of abusive demeaning phone sex, sexual harassment, or harassment in general, by phone; this harassment most likely took place against ex-girlfriends or any females who may have crossed him socially or in the workplace. Phone harassment may also have taken place against men who he believes had crossed him in some way.
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[/FONT]Serial killers may not feel any guilt or remorse, but they do feel fear. The Long Island serial killer is feeling fear of apprehension. He is also a baby killer and he's feeling the fear of his fiendish deed.
It's only a matter of time until authorities arrest him. When that happens, he will probably spend the rest of his life in prison. He should know that in prison, the majority of inmates hate baby killers, and will treat him accordingly.

Some punishments are worse than death.


Before they perfect their horrific trade. Most serial killers make mistakes in the beginning of their new murderous careers. The Long Island serial killer is no different. Whether it be that a girl got away from him; similar to a girl getting away from Gary Ridgeway, The Green River Killer, or a girl getting away from Robert Picton, the infamous serial killer in British Columbia. The Long Island serial killer has made mistakes early on as well. One of those mistakes might have been having a known relationship with one of his first victims, probably the one, whose baby he killed. He separated the body parts of the mother miles away from where the baby was found. I believe this is because he can be connected to her and didn't want her found and identified. Someone out there knows of their relationship. Why else would he jeopardize himself and go through so much effort and trouble to get rid of the body?


A possible pattern could be emerging after the identification of the Long Island Serial Killer's five victims. The five victims were all from out of town, and none were New York City metropolitan area natives.
Usually, born or bred NY City Metro escorts are extremely cautious and very vigilant of their surroundings, and would be skeptical of a fast talking John who may want to do them harm. I don't think this killer would have had an easy time getting NY City born or bred escorts to meet him alone without someone watching over them. We believe that this could be part of this predator's trolling philosophy. If the girls are from out of town, and recently coming to NY, they would be more naive and trusting of a sweet talking killer

This killer should turn himself in to authorities ASAP, and tell his story to the millions of people who are interested in him. He knows he can't stop killing! If he doesn't turn himself in, eventually he will be arrested and lose control of his destiny or future.

The Egomaniac with the Inferiority Complex:

This sweet talking killer is an egomaniac with a major inferiority complex, which will be his undoing. He gets a high just thinking about how he's outsmarted everyone. However, this is short lived. When this killer comes down from his egomaniac high, he has to face his darkest reality. That reality is that he's nothing but a fragile looser who cannot take the slightest of criticisms. At his core, he feels so much less than others, that he has to escape this reality and focus his mind on his stimulating murderous fantasies (which he will eventually act out on). He is just like the heroine addict that is coming down from his last high, who can't face his demons, so he fantasizes on procuring his next fix.


This potent killer of women and children has, should we say, a little problem (which he believes is a little male organ problem, that is). This killer is impotent, along with having poor relationship skills with women.
This killer was humiliated by a woman (or women) when he was trying to have a sexual relationship with them.

THE LOSER
From what we understand, this loser has made a number of mistakes in the murders of his victims, that will come back to haunt him.
As we post this comment law-enforcement is getting closer to catching this DUMMY. This killer of women and children.












Updated 12/5/2016*


 
Very interesting information, MrAccountant! Thank you for posting it. :)
 
mraccountant said:
This is the updated profile of the Long Island Serial Killer from John Kelly's S.T.A.L.K. Inc. It was his profile and work that helped bring Gary Ridgeway to justice. As an educator, and one who teaches criminal profiling I think his updated profile was exceptionally done. He is taunting LISK, taunting him to get angry to get unhinged. Its in doing so that he is most likely to get enraged and act without thinking!

Its his rage, his anger, the time where he feels he's NOT in control of his life/actions that he is most likely to act without thinking, to act without his ability to be meticulous that will ultimately lead him to making a mistake and giving law enforcement the clues they need to lead them to his backyard!

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The updated Long Island Serial Killer - STALK PROFILE


[FONT=&amp]
This killer is a sexual sadist who obtains a high from seeing women suffer and die. He enjoys watching violent *advertiser censored*. He is very familiar with the Long Island area and his dump sites. He is between the ages of 34 and 50. He has had and is known for having a long-time fascination with Law-Enforcement and has acquired police paraphernalia over the years. He is very literate with computers and communications in general. Because of this he is probably very adept at computer generated sounds, voices or phrases. He could be a collector of cell phones, not only of ones belonging to the victims. He is above average in intelligence. He drives an enclosed vehicle, probably a van. He is a very organized person, with a “place for everything and everything in its place”, and the word controlling could be his middle name. He hates women and, historically, probably physically abused them in relationships. He probably feels that his mother didn’t take care of him when he was a child, and/or he has been betrayed by women through a lack of nurturing or through their infidelity.

He is a very auditory person who can be a charming talker who also socializes well. He’s probably a major bragger about himself to others on what he believes are his accomplishments. He will probably not brag about the murders. He has an affinity for social networking sites, especially Craigslist, to search for his victims from a pool of escort service providers. He has the luxury to be able to spend a lot of time on the phone qualifying his victims to find the right one of opportunity. He has a way of finding out which prostitutes don’t have a driver, pimp or someone watching over them. Perhaps he utilizes a voice stress analyzer. The majority of the women he called have not met his criteria for him to make them victims because they were too much of a risk for him; somehow he knew through his conversation that they had someone watching over them. The phone is this predator’s thing, for sure. He probably has a history of abusive demeaning phone sex, sexual harassment, or harassment in general, by phone; this harassment most likely took place against ex-girlfriends or any females who may have crossed him socially or in the workplace. Phone harassment may also have taken place against men who he believes had crossed him in some way.
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[/FONT]Serial killers may not feel any guilt or remorse, but they do feel fear. The Long Island serial killer is feeling fear of apprehension. He is also a baby killer and he's feeling the fear of his fiendish deed.
It's only a matter of time until authorities arrest him. When that happens, he will probably spend the rest of his life in prison. He should know that in prison, the majority of inmates hate baby killers, and will treat him accordingly.

Some punishments are worse than death.


Before they perfect their horrific trade. Most serial killers make mistakes in the beginning of their new murderous careers. The Long Island serial killer is no different. Whether it be that a girl got away from him; similar to a girl getting away from Gary Ridgeway, The Green River Killer, or a girl getting away from Robert Picton, the infamous serial killer in British Columbia. The Long Island serial killer has made mistakes early on as well. One of those mistakes might have been having a known relationship with one of his first victims, probably the one, whose baby he killed. He separated the body parts of the mother miles away from where the baby was found. I believe this is because he can be connected to her and didn't want her found and identified. Someone out there knows of their relationship. Why else would he jeopardize himself and go through so much effort and trouble to get rid of the body?


A possible pattern could be emerging after the identification of the Long Island Serial Killer's five victims. The five victims were all from out of town, and none were New York City metropolitan area natives.
Usually, born or bred NY City Metro escorts are extremely cautious and very vigilant of their surroundings, and would be skeptical of a fast talking John who may want to do them harm. I don't think this killer would have had an easy time getting NY City born or bred escorts to meet him alone without someone watching over them. We believe that this could be part of this predator's trolling philosophy. If the girls are from out of town, and recently coming to NY, they would be more naive and trusting of a sweet talking killer

This killer should turn himself in to authorities ASAP, and tell his story to the millions of people who are interested in him. He knows he can't stop killing! If he doesn't turn himself in, eventually he will be arrested and lose control of his destiny or future.

The Egomaniac with the Inferiority Complex:

This sweet talking killer is an egomaniac with a major inferiority complex, which will be his undoing. He gets a high just thinking about how he's outsmarted everyone. However, this is short lived. When this killer comes down from his egomaniac high, he has to face his darkest reality. That reality is that he's nothing but a fragile looser who cannot take the slightest of criticisms. At his core, he feels so much less than others, that he has to escape this reality and focus his mind on his stimulating murderous fantasies (which he will eventually act out on). He is just like the heroine addict that is coming down from his last high, who can't face his demons, so he fantasizes on procuring his next fix.


This potent killer of women and children has, should we say, a little problem (which he believes is a little male organ problem, that is). This killer is impotent, along with having poor relationship skills with women.
This killer was humiliated by a woman (or women) when he was trying to have a sexual relationship with them.

THE LOSER
From what we understand, this loser has made a number of mistakes in the murders of his victims, that will come back to haunt him.
As we post this comment law-enforcement is getting closer to catching this DUMMY. This killer of women and children.












Updated 12/5/2016*
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Thanks for the read. When I first started having visions and dreams about lisk, I saw an enormous amount of hidden and repressed rage. I believe he has issues with road rage. Also, my sensing tells me he likes music and Steely Dan specifically. The other day I heard the song Babylon girls and it sent chills up and down my spine.

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There are at least 3 spelling errors in that profile.


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Aleph said:
There are at least 3 spelling errors in that profile.


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But the message is clear regardless of spelling errors. Some of the most talented can not spell or write well.

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Was wondering if these murders can be tied to some kind of initiation?

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Aslan said:
Very interesting information, MrAccountant! Thank you for posting it. :)
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I agree Aslan! Thank you, Mr. A! This profile is interesting... does anyone know if this is specific to this killer only or if this is a generic profile for the type of crime? I'm just curious if a person could fit the profile, but not be the monster we're looking for (or even a serial killer at all?) It's scary to think more than one person like this could exist!



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crimehunter58 said:
I agree Aslan! Thank you, Mr. A! This profile is interesting... does anyone know if this is specific to this killer only or if this is a generic profile for the type of crime? I'm just curious if a person could fit the profile, but not be the monster we're looking for (or even a serial killer at all?) It's scary to think more than one person like this could exist!



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It is specific to the Long Island Serial Killer. The crazy part about serial killers is they blend with everyone else. Ted Bundy was an attorney and charismatic. My next door neighbor had a friend and business associate that was a serial killer, he was at his house all the time for parties and I was in his company as well. After he was arrested my neighbor said I still can't believe it. I said that is the the scary part there are no tell tale signs and you never suspected that he was the guy killing the store owners. My neighbor was a store owner and could have been next.
 
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