Sorry my octo friends I hit that multi-quote button a few more times than I realized. I am sitting here :biglaugh: :biglaugh: from your posts! My poor doggy is running half circles around me and yapping, trying to figure out what's wrong!! Octo has us whipped into high form with her latest octo-noise.
What the heck? Half a uterus? I'm not a doctor and don't play one on tv but why would any surgeon remove half a uterus. Does that mean she can now have only half as many babies?
Am I wrong? Has anyone here ever heard of this type of procedure?
Hey, I would donate to a surgery to have her entire uterus removed and her mouth wired shut. Should we start a fund?
jmo
OMG, OMG this was exactly my first thought!! That uterus held 8 babies, surely she could squeeze 4 or 5 in half a one!! AZW I would be happy to toss more than my :twocents: worth if they spay her completely. I'll bet her doc would toss in the jaw wire!!!
She didn't leave her mother behind with the kids from what we know. We're all waiting on the reality show... if it happens? :blowkiss:
This is what I was asking a couple pages back (with the link) I thought I heard her say mom isn't allowed around her kids anymore (baby bath vid?) but I wasn't sure. (my hearing isn't great) No one else heard it, so I guess I heard wrong?
Boyz_Mum said:
I've heard of people having fibroids removed, never heard of half a uterus being left (I think they can leave half an ovary in the case of cysts? In some cases I think they leave an ovary even with a hysterectomy for the sake of hormones?)
Anyway... here's a link about fibroids.
http://www.mirs.org/fibroids.htm
"Myomectomy is an alternative surgical procedure for the treatment of fibroids. The object of myomectomy is to remove only the fibroid while leaving the uterus intact and preserving reproductive potential."
I couldn't find anything about leaving a person with half a uterus, but I didn't read the whole page.
I don't get Nadya's quote in this article. It says the doctors found benign fibroid tumors, but Nadya says,
Theyre worried there could be, like, pre-cancerous cells, Suleman said. Im terrified. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519482,00.html
Doesn't benign mean non cancerous? The article says Suleman will be in the hospital for a week, doesn't that sound like a hysterectomy stay?
Really good link there Boyz_Mum I guess leaving the cervix is kinda like taking half of the uterus, if you're speaking really generally... like when someone talks about pregnancy as a baby growing in their stomach (one of my pet peeves; tummy yes, stomach no!! LOL)
AZ is right the cervix and the uterus are connected (like fingers on a hand?). The cervix is the lower portion of the uterus. For 9 months the cervix is responsible for keeping the baby inside, in labor, the cervix gets soft and moves out of the way. The uterus gets hard and expels the baby. Working together, but very different jobs.
OK, I looked this up on ASK.com for clarity:
A partial, or subtotal, hysterectomy removes only the upper two-thirds of the uterus. The ovaries, fallopian tubes and cervix are not removed.
Radical hysterectomy refers to the removal of the uterus, cervix, ovaries, fallopian tubes, part of the vagina and part of the pelvic lymph nodes.
Wouldn't she still have her monthly visitor? I thought the point of having a hysterectomy was to get freedom from that. At least for me anyway. But wouldn't she still be prone to fibroids if she had any part of her uterus left?
Unless someone has really heavy flow, (we're talking monthly hemorrhage)
most docs won't take out a healthy organ for anything less and insurance would never cover for this, but lack of insurance didn't stop her before!! (I know there are always exceptions)
I don't believe fibroids generally attach in the cervix as it isn't vascular enough, they prefer the meaty muscular end of the uterus, it has much better blood flow. So yes, if they were doing the surgery the way she described it, the fibroids would come back. If they are doing it the way I think they are, just her cervix is left, I don't believe they will come back..
Yes, you are right. At her youngish age they would probably grow back. Something like 70% of women have them and are asymptomatic, though. When they hit menopause, they should begin to shrink.
She must be having symptoms (heavy bleeding, infertility :crazy
but why now? I find this whole scenario suspicious.
When docs do a delivery they don't like to remove fibroids because they tend to bleed like crazy. Generally fibroids will shrink post partum, because it is the hormones from the pregnancy that make them grow like crazy. You would think with an octo pregnancy the fibroids would have been that much worse because her hormones would have been off the charts with 6 or 8 placentas (depending on whether the 2 sets of identical twins had their own or not). It makes sense to me if she had benign fibroids
that bad, the docs would have taken her uterus during the c/sec. She must have known there was a
huge chance of this when she had the octo babies, with 6 pregnancies in 7 years and 16+ lbs of baby in there. She would have had a very floppy uterus (boggy is the actual word). If they didn't take it kudos to the docs, it would have taken a tremendous amount of work/drugs/skill/luck to firm that up so she didn't bleed out.
So anyway I agree with you, it is very suspicious.
Tummy tuck is high on my list (again 6 times in 7 yrs + 16 lbs of baby = one ugly belly!) She has lost a tremendous amount of weight very quickly.
Other repairs "down there" would be #2 on my list of possibilities. There are all kinds of indignities that we are susceptible to following pregnancy and c/sec delivery that would require a surgical repair. 3 mos sounds just about right as far as docs waiting to see how much repair we get from mother nature before they go back in and make things right too.
