Hi Lezah,
This is even more desperate and preposterous than I thought.
How can the defense hope to convince any rational, clear-thinking person with this argument?
In order for there to be a rope burn, the noose would have needed to be tightened and started to travel upward from a position nearly resting on the shoulder. The angled surface of the trapezius would make that impossible. You dont need to be a forensic pathologist to know that, you simply need to have common sense.
The illustration below highlights the injury depicted in the autopsy photo. Curiously, I cannot find anything noted in the autopsy report relating to whatever this is.
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Which crime show was Mary on? Is it online and/or link available? TIA
Hi Betty, my understanding is that the jury would not be present during the motion discussions....so they would not have heard the judges comments...
From the Judge's reaction to the voluminous motion presented by AS, it was no doubt the finest of legal brief that money can buy!
However, I trust the Judge's factual, on-point comments to this motion were both a morale boost and comfort to RZ plaintiffs. As Mr. Greer crafts his closing argument, no doubt he's emphasizing the very same the Judge offered today.
JUSTICE FOR REBECCA.
Also from cynic’s link...
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The defense then filed a 13-page motion for nonsuit, claiming that Greer had failed to present any eyewitness, law enforcement, scientific or documentary evidence linking Shacknai to the death.
Bacal disagreed in part, saying there were inferences a jury could draw from testimony presented by various expert witnesses called by Greer to talk about knots used on the ropes that bound Zahau and handwriting analysis of a message painted on a bedroom door.
However, the judge dismissed a cause of action for conversion, that Shacknai “intentionally and substantially interfered with Zahau’s personal property.”
Greer told the judge the property he was referring to included the long-sleeved blue T-shirt used to gag Zahau's mouth. He admitted he had no evidence that the shirt was hers.
A second piece of clothing that supposedly had disappeared — a sparkly striped dress she wore the afternoon before her death — could be seen in a sheriff’s crime scene photo presented to jurors. The dress and her light gray jacket were plainly part of a heap of laundry on the floor of the mansion’s master bedroom closet.
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Fellow WS members, can I ask your opinions on a theory?
As you know, I have felt for some time the guest house has great significance in the death of RZ. I believe the 911 mention of the guest house by AS as where RZ hung herself may well be a parapraxis ( or slip of the tongue) and this is also reinforced by AS during his actual testimony ( and now seemingly also accentuated by the Judge in her ruling on the motion today)
It is a seemingly innocuous mention, relating to a description of the guest house by AS when under cross examination by his defense attorney. It stuck out to me like a big, sore thumb. It is at about 55 minutes into the first set of AS testimony online ( ch8) regarding his description of the guest house, if you would like to see for yourself.
AS is being asked to describe the guest house by his defense, and continues on to explain every single room, up to and including the galley kitchen, then, he stumbles in his delivery, hesitates and says and thats all I know about...
It was very, very odd...so there is somewhere in the guest house he doesnt know about? If he doesnt know about it, how can he say he doesnt know? And he testifies he always stays at the guest house... so he is very familiar with it you would assume. It is a very odd statement.
I decided to look up the interactive online guesthouse plan a member posted here, and found that there is actually a storage room in the guest house. Not mentioned by AS. It is right next to the kitchen, and appears to be a good size.
On the photos I have seen on line, ( after it was freshly painted) it seems to be a relatively large, windowless room with heavy open pipework on the ceiling. (Easy to throw a rope over IMO. Certainly there would little chance of sound escaping ( historical records seem to state that the walls and ceiling are concrete))
Combine this strange hesitation and what I would describe as an odd ... thats all I know about... reference, with the statement that she was hung in the guesthouse on the 911.
Then add AS complete inability to offer any description whatsoever of how he found RZ other than something hanging...he couldnt say which way, how high, facing, still, moving...nothing...no recollection.
This cements my opinion that RZ was never hung from that outdoor balcony, but died in the guesthouse, IMO probably in that storage room, and was staged on the grass. He cant recall how she looked, because she was never hanging from the balcony...
What do you guys think? I would very much like to hear your opinions on this aspect and the odd comment...
(I will try my best and post my trial stuff tomorrow if you are still interested in reading it, Im sorry its so late....( all this is just a theory and my opinion and personal interpretation, it seems I should clarify that as I dont know how to do a swanky footer message like you clever crew!)
Seattle, you’re so right about the judge. She seems a really, really good and very fair Judge, and she is very attentive throughout every day I have been at trial.
Lezah-- Please know I find your theory a spot on possibility, and offer the following for your consideration:
Again-- that bloody table is a real thorn in my side. A distraction?
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Wait, *bloody* table? How'd I miss that it was bloody???
Lezah-- Please know I find your theory a spot on possibility, and offer the following for your consideration:
1) Guest house was never considered a crime scene, and any evidence never collected.
2) RZ likely strangled in guest house.
3) More likely witnessed screams audible to/from the guest house struggle.
4) If ever hanging, RZ was raised from the ground and not over balcony.
5) The (broken) table more likely required to raise RZ than to cut her down.
6) AS could reach RZ from balcony, and didn't need table
7) AS cutting doesn't fit in recorded 911 call.
8) Just like the utterance about girl hung at guest house, AS slips again in polygraph with the order he called 911!
Again-- that bloody table is a real thorn in my side. A distraction?
Sorry -- me bad
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bloody
very mild swearword used mainly in Uk but also very common (I am told) in Austrailia. Can be used before or in the middle of words/phrases to emphasize meaning - be it good, sarcastic or bad. It really does sound silly when americans say it - think about it, it's the equivalent to a brit saying 'mall' or 'nimrod' ...
Jonah also chose to keep her journal and all letters from my father to Rebecca. Most of them are in my language, Zahau. Instead he gave that to the defense and they have tried to use it during depositions and trial to try and show Rebecca did not have good relationship with her parents. He kept properties of my sister that he has no right to them. He also accused me of going to Spreckels Mansion and taking Rebecca’s clothes/things few days after Rebecca died. I never went to Coronado island or near that house while we were here to get her body as he accused me per letter sent to me by his attorney Dan Webb.
The defendant’s attorneys filed another written motion today to dismiss the case saying we have no evidence that Adam Schacknai killed Rebecca but the judge denied the motion to dismiss especially since first responders, San Diego Sheriffs department, and Adam Schacknai puts himself there. The trial will continue so the jury can decide based on the evidence presented to them. Thank you all for your prayers. Please continue to share the link to raise awareness and support. The funds raised does not go to our attorney but goes to pay bills we owe to the experts in excess of $50,000 for their testimonies.
Help spread the word!
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My heart breaks for Rebecca's family. I stand with them in their belief that Rebecca was murdered.
Sadly, I do not believe the right person is on trial. I also wish this was a criminal trial, not a wrongful death case. The LE community failed Rebecca and I think it is a travesty.
That being said, if I were on THIS jury, I would have to vote NOT Guilty. Adam being the one to find Rebecca and staying in the guest house is not enough for me. I do not think Adam had any motive to kill Rebecca.
No matter what happens here, my only consolation is the fact that there is no statute of limitations concerning criminal murder charges.
My heart breaks for Rebecca's family. I stand with them in their belief that Rebecca was murdered.
Sadly, I do not believe the right person is on trial. I also wish this was a criminal trial, not a wrongful death case. The LE community failed Rebecca and I think it is a travesty.
That being said, if I were on THIS jury, I would have to vote NOT Guilty. Adam being the one to find Rebecca and staying in the guest house is not enough for me. I do not think Adam had any motive to kill Rebecca.
No matter what happens here, my only consolation is the fact that there is no statute of limitations concerning criminal murder charges.
Hahaha! Ooopps! I took you literally there.![]()
My heart breaks for Rebecca's family. I stand with them in their belief that Rebecca was murdered.
Sadly, I do not believe the right person is on trial. I also wish this was a criminal trial, not a wrongful death case. The LE community failed Rebecca and I think it is a travesty.
That being said, if I were on THIS jury, I would have to vote NOT Guilty. Adam being the one to find Rebecca and staying in the guest house is not enough for me. I do not think Adam had any motive to kill Rebecca.
No matter what happens here, my only consolation is the fact that there is no statute of limitations concerning criminal murder charges.