Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #28

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News media confirmed it was investigators that created the large cross of rocks where Gabby was found. Her father just mad a smaller one as well.
The first reporter who found and tweeted about it prematurely said it was made by investigators but later deleted the tweet. By then media already caught wind of it so IMO there’s still a chance it wasn’t made by them. Wouldn’t it technically be a disturbing of the crime scene for investigators to have done it? I personally believe the cross was already there and IMO, made by Brian.
 
Question - the manager of the Mexican restaurant said there was no video footage of the incident with BL on 8/27…I have not been to Jackson WY , but isn’t the restaurant located on a public square or Main Street where there are street cameras? if so, wondering if LE has looked at those ???
 
that preserve is enormous compared to our little local one and finding anyone in there is very difficult. LE has outright said it’s like finding a needle in haystack.
LE couldn’t find the little Anthony girl when she was dumped close to home.
Given, he has wilderness living skills and know the preserve, it would be a good place to off self. Of course , he could be gone elsewhere. With other friends sbd family, or on the lam. FBI likely going through contacts; I certainly would. Not like just anyone would shelter him.

Thank you. I kind of expected that was the case but then again, conceivably to someone without boots on the ground, any or no theoretical area in FL could be swampland, bisected by swampland, etc.; so good to have confirmation.
 
Good morning everyone, while the thread was down I had a few random thoughts from posts and in general.
1- parents being charged with accessory after the fact - it is entirely possible. Example being YESTERDAY the judge ruling that the case can move forward against Ruben Flores in Felony Charges when it comes to his part in the disappearance of Kristin Smart.

2- Camper - the neighbor notes this is a NEW camper. So is it possible that once BL calls or comes home they THEN purchase the camper with plans for this trip to happen before anyone can report Gabby missing? I'm curious when it was purchased, when it arrived at the house and I am hoping that while so many resources are at the CR, that someone is behind the scenes asking all of this small questions to piece the little things together. What did they say when they purchased the camper? Also, if this was a weekend getaway, did the sister know they went?

3-Cargo bag- I really do wonder if this is in the LE inventory. Is it possible that it was the point of the camping trip? Dispose of it and anything else that would connect BL to Gabby's murder. ie Clothes, possible weapon, etc

4-Aggression towards women - I really have a sneaking suspicion that this is a learned behavior from home. I wonder what others would say if they asked what the relationship was like between BL's parents. I don't think if he was a "mommys boy" as everyone thinks that he would be this aggressive to all women. This may also explain how CL is essentially locked out of the "family secrets." I could be way off base, but this aggression towards women doesn't mesh with me the same as someone who is a "momma's boy"

5- Last known sighting - I haven't seen a thing about him being sighted since the camper trip- has he been gone since then? I am thinking someone has to scouring over the hwy cams & plate readers. Where did the camper go, where have all vehicles been, etc. To this point as well, do we know if his scent was actually found at CR - how long prior could it be "planted" for him to have been there? Could the parents have "planted" his scent for him with items of his when they moved the mustang to the CR and back to make it appear as if he was there at some point?

The questions just keep piling up while the answers don't seem to be anywhere - same with BL. :mad:

All things are MOO

The MommaBoy's I knew lashed out at women, all women. They demanded women to caretake them or lash out! They also sought out nurturing, sugar momma types to enable them.
I'm curious what a psychologist would think about this?
My amateur guess is learned behavior from the Mother. Either the Mother was too controlling, smothering, and coddled them. No consequences for being violent to little girls, and eventually women. An absent, submissive, and/or overcontrolling abusive Father.
Jealous mothers who think bad girls deserve to be punished for not worshiping, caretaking their son, and defying or rejecting him. An independent ten/ young woman would push the mother and son's buttons for complete control.
 
I have not found any instance of friends or relatives of the Laundrie family providing positive or negative comments. Is it just radio silence or were these people loners? I think some insight from people close to them may explain their and their sons behavior.
 
It keeps happening...why did they give BL a pass?
They had ONE job to do...maybe they need to hire retired couples to watch houses. I know members of Websleuths could do a great job.

This statement nails it. My Mother is 71 and NOTHING gets by her in our neighborhood. She knows who is coming and going by the sound of the car driving by her house. I am new to Websleuths, but I have been a crime junkie for years. If you turn my television on, it's on ID channel. I have never been so impressed with anything as I have Websleuths. This is AMAZING. No need for the FBI when you have Websleuths. If the members of Websleuths had the equipment and time, BL would have been found. You guys are amazing and never stop! This is the first thing I look at in the morning and last thing I look at before I go to sleep. My daughter is Gabby's age, so this has gripped me. I cried when S&R found her.
 
There was a case near me where a baby was found dead <modsnip to “under suspicious circumstances”>. The father of the baby, who was on Meth, tried to run. He had to turn himself in because he had nowhere to go. Not one single person would help him. Everyone turned him away, including other Meth users. So, I feel like Brian will only have support from his parents. I don't think anyone would give him food, shelter or assistance of any kind. He and his parents are on their own. IMO

I agree they are on their own in this. BL is not a survivalist in the true meaning of the term. He has had a life of all the creature comforts of a roof over his head, food, and a bed to sleep in.

If he is still alive and missing those comforts, he will eventually come out of hiding. I would like to think the assistance of his parents is now over and that authorities are closely monitoring everything they are doing now.

They technically should be in full cooperation with authorities since they were the one's who reported him 'missing'. IMO
 
John Walsh is furious because he lived through his 6 year old being beheaded and no one was ever charged with his murder due to what John believes were police mistakes. I have a hard time criticizing someone who has spent his life fighting for other people's kids.

I don't know how John Walsh can forgive the cops who botched his missing deceased son's case. That was horrific. Le botched it horribly!!!
 
I agree. You don't park your car at the entrance of a fairly small preserve and then hide there if you are try to evade authorities. Carlton Reserve is 25,000 acres. That's 39 sq miles - or roughly 5 miles x 8 miles. When dry, you can hike that end to end in less than a day. It's not big enough for a person to "disappear". IMO that was a clever ruse.

Hopefully, the FBI is using video cam recordings to backtrack the movement of that camper. Locate where the camper went and they'll find BL.
I take it you mean "plate readers", which apparently are very common in FL possibly because of toll roads." Gator swamp "is a complete ruse created by this <modsnip - vitriolic language> family - it gave Brian 3-4 days more head start. I hope the complete cost of that BS search is put at the Laundries' feet and actions are taken to bankrupt them if they can't pay. The SA may already have this in mind in cahoots with LE.

BL is probably in one of three places based on tthe trip of the Magic Red Truck.

1. Over the Mexican boarder - return trip time 43hrs non stop out of about 70 hrs available. NOt a very nice place to live. Hard to find decent work and always a risk of Texmex bounty hunters hunting you down I guess.

2. Somewhere in the NY area in semi hiding. Clearly the family has connections up there. Perhaps his sleezy NY lawyer's brother wants some pin money and has a spare room. ..who can say ?

3. Over the Canadian border which although it is a civilised place will extradite him to FL at the drop of a hat if he turn up in LE's sights (ie dangerous place for him without friends and good disguise).

Those seem the most obvious places based on a three day say 70 hr trip. (you'd never make the Canada return trip in three days of course).

KG
 
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Sept 2/3 or 9/10 - Neighbor spots BL outside mowing and bike ride with his Mom

Sept 2?-4?- neighbor says family went camping with the truck and camper for 3 days

Seems like they said they saw them loading up to go camping a week to week and a half after BL returned, so isn't it more like Sept 7 to 11???​

SEP 10:: Gabby’s mother texted BL and his mother, RL, trying to get in touch with Gabby, but neither replied. The family alerted the National Park Service.

Could the Laundries have been "camping" and not gotten the texts?​

Sept 10- Incident with Gabbys Dad -redacted police report Links her Dad to a police response at the home where his daughter lived with BL and his parents at 6:30 p.m. on Sept. 10.

Did police report say that Laundries were home?​

SEP 11: Gabby’s family report her missing 7 PM

Sep 11: Van seized at the home of BL parents in NorthPort FL - FBI
 
Working on the update today:
Updated Sept 23
2020

MAR 17: IG Post- 1 yr anniversary

JUL 2: GP announced her engagement to BL

2021

JUL 2: Van Life Road Trip Began for Gabby Petito and BL - GP is the owner of the van

JUL 5: The couple stopped at Kansas' Monument Rocks

JUL 8: Their next stop was Colorado Springs

JUL 10: Petito updated her Instagram with photos of her walking at Grand Sand Dunes National Park

JUL 16: Petito’s smiling in a photo from the couple’s next stop at Zion National Park

JUL 20: Petito informed her Instagram followers that they were at Cedar Breaks

JUL 21: The next stop was Bryce Canyon National Park

JUL 26: Petito posted a photo relaxing in hot tub at Mystic Hot Springs

JUL 30: The couple stopped at Canyonlands National Park Mesa Arch

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AUG 10: JF met Gabby and BL near Moab, Utah where they chatted about 40 min. JF and his girlfriend then set off on a hike to the Delicate Arch. When they got back to the parking lot, Gabby and Laundrie were gone.

AUG 12: The couple was at the organic store (Moonflower) from 9am to 3pm according to the police video - they were going to get water and showers - police report incident is at 4pm and the video is over an hour long of this incident. BL is taken to a hotel -
?Where does Gabby go for the night?

AUG 12: The couple took a hike at Arches National Park -
?Believe the hike was august 9 and posted on aug 12?

AUG 12 Moab, UT PD police incident report - no criminal charges,respond to an incident involving BL and Gabrielle Petito

AUG 12 Arches National Park - reservation only campsite (per PE) -
?Is this where Gabby stayed in her van/tent?

AUG 13: BF posted an Instagram photo from their next destination in Moab

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AUG 17: BL returns to Florida via airplane to move their things out of storage returns Aug 23 -Some reports say he moved stuff into storage and some say out of storage (source - handwritten note by Gabbys uncle and interview with Mom)

AUG 19: YouTube travel video posted by Gabby

AUG 21: Gabbys dad orders Uber eats delivered to hotel

AUG 21: Gabby told her Dad on FaceTime that they had lost power during a stop in Salt Lake City.

AUG 23: BL returns from Florida trip via airplane
(?Where was the van parked?)

AUG 24: The couple were seen checking out of a hotel in Salt Lake City, Utah

AUG 25: Petito’s family spoke to her for the last time over the phone and she said she was in Grand Teton National Park

Last phone call between Gabby & her mom, Nicole Schmidt. Last Instagram post from Monarch Wall in Ogden, Utah.

AUG 25 - Couple spots van at 5pm at Jenny Lake - alerts LE 9/17 they saw it

Aug 27-Gabby and BL at Merry Piglets, a Tex-Mex restaurant, between 1 and 2 p.m. on Aug. 27, when they said an agitated BL began arguing with a waitress.

AUG 27 - Gabby's uncle posts there was a snapchat Gabby sent a friend -heading to Yellowstone (in Dailymail article)

AUG 27-a Van is seen in the side of the road and youtubers post it - MSM picks up the story - could be Gabbys
In the video the lady says it was recorded Aug 27, 2021 at between 6:00 to 6:30 PM

AUG 27 & 30: text messages from Gabby’s phone sent to mom

After August 30th, Gabby’s parents weren’t able to get in contact with Gabby or her fiance. Her fiance’s mother also was not responding to any phone calls.

AUG 29- BL is picked up at 5:30pm while hiking alone in Grand Teton (tiktok reported in MSM) offers to pay for a ride

B alleged that Laundrie had confessed to camping at an unregulated site in the National Park "in the middle of nowhere along Snake River."
(Note - this is not confirmed)

AUG 29 Elk hunters spot van

AUG 30: Text from Gabby to Mom - “No service in Yosemite”

August 31: A new list titled “Self-Consumption” appeared on the couple’s Spotify

SEP 1: BL returns home to FL alone according to his parents, (retains an attorney we don’t know when) & is uncooperative with the investigation
Gabbys Van enters at 10:26am Sept 1

Sept 2 -9: ?

Sept 2/3 or 9/10 - Neighbor spots BL outside mowing and bike ride with his Mom

Sept 2?-4?- neighbor says family went camping with the truck and camper for 3 days

SEP 10:: Gabby’s mother texted BL and his mother, RL, trying to get in touch with Gabby, but neither replied. The family alerted the National Park Service.

Sept 10- Incident with Gabbys Dad -redacted police report Links her Dad to a police response at the home where his daughter lived with BL and his parents at 6:30 p.m. on Sept. 10.

SEP 11: Gabby’s family report her missing 7 PM

Sep 11: Van seized at the home of BL parents in NorthPort FL - FBI

Sept12-15- working on which cars were in the driveway-
Camper, Truck, Mustang


Sept 14 - Reporter Brian Entin reports there is no mustang in the driveway
(Tuesday)

Note placed on Mustang at the preserve: The note had requested the car be removed, but the family left the vehicle there until Thursday, hoping he’d return to it, Bertolino told the New York Post.

However, video appears to show the car parked on the Laundrie’s driveway Wednesday, according to a Crimeonline report.

Footage from NewsNationNow reporter Brian Entin appeared to show the Mustang convertible back in the driveway on Wednesday night.

Sep 14: BL family lawyer issues statement

Note: a vehicle left driveway at 6:04pm

Sept 15: NorthPort police names BL as Person of Interest

Sept 15: Gabby's family issues another statement

Sep 15- Northport police chief asks BL lawyer to assist in finding Gabby

Sep 17 - FBI takes over search in WY (GTNP =Grand Teton National Park)

Sept 17- BL family asks police to come to their home

Sept 17- LE at BL home - he is declared missing by his parents as of Tuesday

Parents admit driving the mustang back home after finding it at the preserve

Sept18- searches for Gabby and BL

Sept 19- searches for Gabby and BL planned

Sept 19 - FBI press conference - offers condolences to Gabby's family - body found believed to be Gabby

Found near where the van bloggers video showed the van parked on August 27 (6-6:3opm)

Investigators left a cross made from rocks at the site where Gabby's body was found

Sept 20- Search Warrant Served at home of BL parents by FBI - Mustang registered to CL towed away

Sept 21 - autopsy of Gabby at 1pm
Sept 21 - confirmed remains are Gabby
sept 21- search resumes for BL
Sept 22- search for BL in preserve
Sept 23- search for BL in preserve
Sept 23 - BL parents leave in the truck this morning and return with the Mustang and then leave again
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WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE No discussion*

Mustang ownership and tow: Gabby Petito case: FBI agents swarm Brian Laundrie's home in Florida

Gabbys dad Sept 10-Gabby Petito's dad linked to incident at Laundrie home evening before she was reported missing


Elk hunters sighting

Search intensifies for Gabby Petito; police respond to Laundrie home in Florida

Reporter Brian Entin video he posted on Tuesday 9/14 at 6:04 pm and he said the parents had left an hour previously.


https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1437930287170822152?s=21


Then video of them returning in a red truck.


https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1437932624534769668?s=21

cross left by Investigators - Makeshift cross found in area where crews searched for Gabby Petito

neighbor interview - https://twitter.com/kristinthorne/status/1440724906690236417?s=21

it’s Gabby FBI confirms Gabby Petito's remains found in Wyoming; manner of death 'homicide'

Brian Entin
@BrianEntin

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Sep 23
The Laundries did leave this morning in the red truck. They returned home with the Mustang. And then left again in the truck.
Spectacular work! With over eleventy billion posts to wade through ~ only our own @oviedo ~ could separate the cream from the rest. Thank you for your volunteerism.❤️
 
John Walsh is furious because he lived through his 6 year old being beheaded and no one was ever charged with his murder due to what John believes were police mistakes. I have a hard time criticizing someone who has spent his life fighting for other people's kids.

I don't know how John Walsh can forgive the cops who botched his missing deceased son's case. That was horrific. Le botched it horribly!!!
Time line of events around the death of Gabrielle Petito.


27th August "can you help Stan" Text message from Gabby's handset to her mother (one of the suspicious messages)

29th August Miranda Baker says she and friend gave Brian Laundrie a lift and he left the vehicle in a very great rush and stressed up.

User comment - (Highly likely Gabby was dead by now and was concealed in the white Escort Van).

30th Aug Last text message supposedly sent ex Gabby's phone (the "no service in Yosemite" message)

31st August nothing to report in terms of phone messages.

1St SepT Brian returns to FL with van and licence plate reader spots Van about time he enters Northport FL. Multiple witness statements
from several neighbours have him at the house in very early September. (based on MSM reports).

1st Sept Gabby's phone turns off for the last time.

3rd to 5th Sept approximately, Neighbours witness Laudrie family going on camping trip with New camper. (the Camper top was new , the Dark RED Truck less the camper top had been owned by Mr Laundrie for quite some time. Neighbour cannot remember the exact days it was away.

It appears that this "camper top" was bought late August or early September but I have no hard data on this-it appears to be a VERY recent purchase from witness statements.

10th September : Gabby's mother reaches out to Brian and his mother but with no response.

11 September 2021: Gabby finally reported missing officially to police by her parents.

Footnote : the Coroner / Pathologist has ruled in WY that the death of Gabby Petito of NY is a homicide.
The manner of death as of 24th Sept 21 has not been officially notified. It may not be notified until the offender (s) is apprehended for LE reasons.


Anyone think STAN was code to her mother?
 
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