Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #45

[SMK777]

I hope this turns out to be the case. I wish there was a better understanding of why they stopped for a day, and then resumed based on “targeted intelligence”, after going to get something with his DNA. Was the waist deep water blocking access to parts of the reserve that was not underwater? Has testing discarded items such as food wrappers indicated he has been alive and in the area? I honestly am on the fence with regards to him still being alive or now deceased.
Question: Has anyone looked into how quick DNA can be tested and results turned around?

8 Days ago:
As for whether the Carlton Reserve search would continue Friday, Josh Taylor, a spokesman for the North Port police department, said simply, "TBD."
Dozens Scour Preserve Again for Brian Laundrie — What's Next if They Don't Find Him?

Then they went back…

The FBI said their search efforts will be “targeted based on intelligence.” Last week, agents were not able to reach some areas with waist-deep water.
FBI scales back search for Brian Laundrie in 25,000-acre Carlton Reserve

Very important questions! Unfortunately, we are missing a lot of information which FBI and LE haven’t disclosed. I hope there will be answers soon.

 

[katydid23]

I am not sure that that is true. I think that he badgered the police in phone calls to tell him if the van was there. He lived hours away, by all accounts.

You might be right. But there are reports that her did drive past their home and saw the van. And reports that police were called that day. So he may have driven there, even if it was hours away. I'd drive endless hours to try and find my daughter.

 

[SandySouth]

If you are curious about the conditions of surviving in a swamp, the tv show “Naked and Afraid” had episodes in the Everglades and the swamps of Louisiana. Not exactly the swamps FBI are looking at, but close and gives you a glimpse of similar conditions.

https://www.wwltv.com/amp/article/news/local/northshore/man-killed-by-alligator-after-hurricane-ida-named/289-8fc5544d-cdd5-4ada-bb0f-cf402b6be379
A man was recently killed by an alligator in Louisiana. He lived near the swamp, but the alligator came all the way up to his house when the flood waters rose. Even if BL knew his way around the swamp, it is still dangerous territory to hide out in.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Did anyone see the cops ask for license and REGISTRATION? I did not see that, if they did. They would have known that she was the owner of the van, not happy boy. jmo

Nope (at least not on any of the released footage we saw). We were all discussing this on these boards the day the first footage was released. Had they done that it may have prompted them to dig deeper. MOO

 

[kittythehare]

I believe Gabby should have been examined for strangulation. Simply because Gabby gestured towards her face/chin/neck area when asked if Brian assaulted her. The interior damage of strangulation can be present but not seen without a medical exam.

County expands forensic testing for domestic assault choking victims – SFBay

I think he used a weapon, rock stick or gun.. <modsnip>
Highly speculative on my part..

 

[JayWill]

"Are you ok with letting her have the van"? And the next time the cop, talking to Brian, says "your" van. But it was HER van he was trying to steal. I don't know how one cop can be so wrong for 45 minutes, completely ignoring what the witness said about play fighting, BL trying to take her phone, and shutting her out. And not even mentioning that the other witness said differently.

So for 45 minutes he completely twists it all, then pulls the rabbit out of the hat "saving" her re non attempt to hurt him. All but taking the other cop by the hand.

So in a way he saved her but in the end Brian got her anyway.



There are really no words. The separation anxiety was Gabby from her van and belongings.

I have a clue maybe why his exwife was 'toxic'.

 

[Bordeaux]

Are the Moab police releasing these clips voluntarily? or ...

Because I was wondering if the Moab police think they come off pretty nifty, and are expecting praise or if they want everyone to see how they (mis)handle these situations........

I’m sure it’s public relations / damage control, but also “doing the right thing” by being transparent with the public and learning from the experience. MOO

 

[ringbearer]

Did anyone see the cops ask for license and REGISTRATION? I did not see that, if they did. They would have known that she was the owner of the van, not happy boy. jmo

I was just coming to ask whether there was a link to ownership of the van. People have said it's Gabby's, but the police are treating it like it's his. From personal experience driving on a dealer tag, I know that the first thing they do is run your plates and if it comes back in a way that makes them think the vehicle isn't registered in your name, they will make a VERY BIG deal about it.

 

[RickshawFan]

How long can you test for gunshot residue? For instance, if a gun was discharged in or near the van, how long would that show up? What about if the van windows were down for an extended time and the residue was in or near the cab? How long would it last then?

Snipped for focus

By "gunshot residue" do you mean the black dust stuff that flies out and sticks to people and things? You don't mean blood, correct? I have no clue (now that I've honed in on the question lol), but isn't that residue not entirely aerosolized like COVID virus, (which could easily just blow out the window) but a visible substance, so it wouldn't disappear without a deliberate attempt to make it disappear? In other words, unless it was cleaned up, it would still be there?
If this post sounds stupid, it might be.

 

[cady]

You might be right. But there are reports that her did drive past their home and saw the van. And reports that police were called that day. So he may have driven there, even if it was hours away. I'd drive endless hours to try and find my daughter.

Petito's attorney said that he called NPPD. And that JP was in Vero Beach, across the state. jmo

 

[Bordeaux]

I am not sure that that is true. I think that he badgered the police in phone calls to tell him if the van was there. He lived hours away, by all accounts.

I recall reading something about Gabby’s dad visiting the Laundries. Sorry, I do not have a timeline or source. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Katerz]

Poor poor Gabby. That video was very very very hard for me to watch. You can tell she’s just so scared and trying to give them hints without saying the words. And I don’t give a crap if a woman slaps a man.. does NOT give him the right to put hands on her and leave marks. Period. This all could’ve been avoided if those cops would have done more for her. I praise LE all the time.. but a few years back I had 2 local police officers pull up on my vehicle while I was pregnant and one of them was sympathetic to my situation at the time and the other was not. Bad cop wouldn’t even let me go into my home to use the restroom so needless to say he had to clean up the back seat of his squad car. I just wished that they would have made Gabby feel more comfortable. I now DEFINITELY want Brian Laundrie caught and to suffer the sentence that he gets for whatever he did to her. She did not deserve any of it one bit. And with all of these videos coming out where he clearly abused her I feel so bad for her family knowing they were most likely not aware of how bad it was for her. Maybe (IMO) she finally told him she had enough and wanted her mama and he snapped. Either way.. poor Gabby.

 

[JayWill]

Her family wouldn't know the van was Gabby's?

No, the police who attended the wellness check. I think her family was worried about both of them at that early stage. They may not have mentioned who owned the van until they found out it was at his house without Gabby.

 

[Lillymac]

I am not sure that that is true. I think that he badgered the police in phone calls to tell him if the van was there. He lived hours away, by all accounts.

I read 2 and a half hours away. But, I would have driven to Wyoming if my child was missing. He has a take charge personality and I'm sure he felt if they won't answer the phone I'll go find out myself. He went at least by there and saw the van. Then he he took action. Thank goodness. MOO

 

[nocommoncents]

This is speculation, but an educated guess at the least--- I think that her family had been calling BL and his parents and his sister, asking for news about Gabby because they couldn't reach her. They tried for over a week and finally Gabby's dad drove over to their home---and saw the van.

At that point he had to be very angry and confused that no one was answering their phones.

No, sorry, that's incorrect. JP has stated clearly he c was never physically there and there is no evidence to suggest that the GP family reached out to the L family before the 10th.

 

[Figuring]

There was the case of the little girl adopted from India ?Shereen whose body was hidden in a culvert and they could tell the date of death pretty accurately by the state of decomposition and the insects colonizing the body. I can't remember what her COD was, but it was proven that she did not die from choking on milk as her parents claimed.

I followed that case super close on here, so horrible. They never really gave away the true details of her death iirc, because the father pled guilty (it was stated as “homicidal violence,” but to my knowledge it was never elaborated on. & I don’t think I could even handle knowing).

BL must have really counted on Gabby not being found for so long that cause of death would maybe not have been determinable.

 

[Bordeaux]

Did anyone see the cops ask for license and REGISTRATION? I did not see that, if they did. They would have known that she was the owner of the van, not happy boy. jmo

I’m sure the police ran the plate. They do that for every traffic stop to asses risk and check for outstanding warrants.

 

[oviedo]

Permission was given to post this link. For anyone who might be concerned about the medical examiners and forensic science specialists not being able to find a COD for Gabby, this gave me hope.

This clip (after a few second introductory pic of GP in Moab) is an in-depth interview with Dr. William Maroney, Chief Medical Examiner from a county in Michigan. He discusses not only the specialists involved and the testing that is likely being done, but also mentions a possibility no other examiner has mentioned: he says she is probably having 2 autopsies. The second is most likely being conducted either at a university, an army base, or perhaps even at Quantico. I found it very insightful, very instructive and educational, and believe it's worth watching IMO.

I’m going to add this to the media thread noting you received permission
Thank you

 

[JayWill]

I was just coming to ask whether there was a link to ownership of the van. People have said it's Gabby's, but the police are treating it like it's his. From personal experience driving on a dealer tag, I know that the first thing they do is run your plates and if it comes back in a way that makes them think the vehicle isn't registered in your name, they will make a VERY BIG deal about it.

But she was just the little woman, even if it was registered to her, they would still think that he had paid for it.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

You might be right. But there are reports that her did drive past their home and saw the van. And reports that police were called that day. So he may have driven there, even if it was hours away. I'd drive endless hours to try and find my daughter.

But JP has claimed publicly through his lawyer that he never went to Laundries house or even the neighborhood, so how does that fit in with what you described?