Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #50

[huntergerrard]

but that post contained photos that were taken from a hike they had done several days prior. It was not a post about what they did that particular day.

Okay, so the date is correct when he posted it but the place tagged doesn't necessarily mean it's correct? It had to have been posted Aug 13th, but could've been from anywhere not necessarily Utah?

Why not, though? Couldn’t he have used either her credit card or her cc number to buy a return ticket? And only discovered after her murder? We don’t know yet what he used her card for, right?

I'm sure GP's dad is a caring dad anyway, but that could be why her dad bought pizza for her because BL had her cc.

 

[prblythe]

MOO of ofcourse but I wonder when he flew back she ignored his calls. Someone needed to pick him up from the airport when he flew back to her. He hitched his way to her location from the airport . This must have angered BL. He was able to track her by phone. Located her and went into a rage.

 

[Bluebythec]

Here's the blurb from the timeline thread here on WS...they certainly infer he was seen and he was at least in Florida ... still checking elsewhere cause Im not sure either

AUG 17: BL returns to Florida via airplane to move their things out of storage returns Aug 23 -Some reports say he moved stuff into storage and some say out of storage (source - handwritten note by Gabbys uncle and interview with Mom dailymail)

AUG 19: YouTube travel video posted by Gabby

AUG 21: Gabbys dad orders Uber eats delivered to hotel

AUG 21: Gabby told her Dad on FaceTime that they had lost power during a stop in Salt Lake City.

AUG 23: BL returns from Florida trip via airplane (dailymail interview with Mom)
(?Where was the van parked?)

Two of these items are sourced by mom but mom only knew what Gabby told her, correct?
Why did the uncle have a handwritten note about the storage stuff?

 

[putnam6]

Since we are throwing out scenario's for an event we don't know for sure even happened, I'll toss out this one.

GP/BL have always had a spirited relationship. He is flippant/dismissive a lot and she responds by getting physical with him. He, being bigger and can easily defend himself, just laughs it off. She gets upset and goes off to spend the night with her girlfriend. This repeats itself over the years of their relationship and they both are used to it. Even on the cross country car trip the year before they don't struggle because they stayed in hotels and took it easy.

But now they are in a highly confined space for weeks on end. She is frustrated trying to start a youtube channel which isn't easy. He's dismissive. She's even more physical with him. This spirals upward until he is responding with his own physicality and soon enough it spills out in public and they get the stop in Moab.

He's getting frustrated with their relationship and the whole trip and tells his parents about the stop and they convince him to end the relationship and come home. He agrees and does. She has the van but she doesn't want to go on without him, so she taps into the money set aside for the trip to spend on a weeks stay at a hotel. Maybe she plans to end the trip so the money doesn't matter. Or maybe she is stuck with the van after he leaves and she doesn't know what to do, so she gets the motel to figure it out. Maybe she spends the entire week messaging him to come back.

So after she convinces him that she will stop fighting with him or that things will be better, he decides to go back. They don't get better. He is miserable. She is miserable and they spiral out of control until one day, while trying to set up a photo shoot next to a beautiful creek, he kills her in a rage.

Makes sense and it wouldn't be the first time this has happened with couples... would it?

 

[meatandcookies]

someone reminded me that GP’s dad ordered her the pizza at the SLC hotel on the 21st. So, currently, the only confirmation out there is that GP was at the hotel from the 21st to the 24th. There is no confirmation she was there the 17th.

there is no confirmation of either GP or BL’s whereabouts after BL was dropped off at the Moab hotel on August 12 until GP’s dad ordered her a pizza at the SLC hotel on the 21st.

So…no sightings and no one knows where they were between August 12 (ca. 6pm) and August 21. 9 days….Correct?

I question whether BL ever flew home at all. I don’t think he did and this is seriously just my opinion. No sightings at an airport, on a plane or in FL between the 17th and the 23rd when this supposed trip took place.

moo.

Nomadic Statik YT launched on the 19th, I’m not sure if it’s confirmed whether it was from the hotel.
IIRC, no in-person sightings between the DV incident on the 12th and the pizza on the 21st. But even if we say they did check in on the 17th, there’s still 4 days with radio silence as to where they were, and GP’s IG had no activity between the 1st and the 12th. The photos in Brian’s IG post on the 13th, with its weird musings on microwaves and Apple watches appear to be taken in Moab, the same place as GP’s post on the 12th.
MOO

 

[cady]

Why not, though? Couldn’t he have used either her credit card or her cc number to buy a return ticket? And only discovered after her murder? We don’t know yet what he used her card for, right?

We know it was at least for a thousand bucks...but that was AFTER her death. jmo Thought it was a debit card...............

 

[WizardQuest]

someone reminded me that GP’s dad ordered her the pizza at the SLC hotel on the 21st. So, currently, the only confirmation out there is that GP was at the hotel from the 21st to the 24th. There is no confirmation she was there the 17th.

there is no confirmation of either GP or BL’s whereabouts after BL was dropped off at the Moab hotel on August 12 until GP’s dad ordered her a pizza at the SLC hotel on the 21st.

So…no sightings and no one knows where they were between August 12 (ca. 6pm) and August 21. 9 days….Correct?

I question whether BL ever flew home at all. I don’t think he did and this is seriously just my opinion. No sightings at an airport, on a plane or in FL between the 17th and the 23rd when this supposed trip took place.

moo.

you're correct.

Only thing I find on msm is when they left the hotel.

 

[putnam6]

Two of these items are sourced by mom but mom only knew what Gabby told her, correct?
Why did the uncle have a handwritten note about the storage stuff?

Still checking for more verification

that said I thought our timeline here was canon? ie not speculative as far as a consensus?

 

[Bluebythec]

Why not, though? Couldn’t he have used either her credit card or her cc number to buy a return ticket? And only discovered after her murder? We don’t know yet what he used her card for, right?

We're not even sure it was HER card he's accused of using AFAIK.

 

[Sachi]

MOO of ofcourse but I wonder when he flew back she ignored his calls. Someone needed to pick him up from the airport when he flew back to her. He hitched his way to her location from the airport . This must have angered BL. He was able to track her by phone. Located her and went into a rage.

She was a an airport hotel, right ?

 

[Bluebythec]

Still checking for more verification

that said I thought our timeline here was canon? ie not speculative as far as a consensus?

Just trying to figure out what's verifiable as fact because it's starting to feel like there is very little to actually go on IMO

 

[Hyway]

Okay, so the date is correct when he posted it but the place tagged doesn't necessarily mean it's correct? It had to have been posted Aug 13th, but could've been from anywhere not necessarily Utah?


I'm sure GP's dad is a caring dad anyway, but that could be why her dad bought pizza for her because BL had her cc.

There had been a power outage and GP told her dad she hadn't been able to order anything so he did it for her.

 

[WizardQuest]

I wonder as well. But, I’m guessing with the current warrant out for him for unlawful use of credit cards…no.

jmo

maybe that is why he allegedly went back to the van...needed the money (had to get her bank card?).

 

[gngr~snap]

Since we are throwing out scenario's for an event we don't know for sure even happened, I'll toss out this one.

GP/BL have always had a spirited relationship. He is flippant/dismissive a lot and she responds by getting physical with him. He, being bigger and can easily defend himself, just laughs it off. She gets upset and goes off to spend the night with her girlfriend. This repeats itself over the years of their relationship and they both are used to it. Even on the cross country car trip the year before they don't struggle because they stayed in hotels and took it easy.

But now they are in a highly confined space for weeks on end. She is frustrated trying to start a youtube channel which isn't easy. He's dismissive. She's even more physical with him. This spirals upward until he is responding with his own physicality and soon enough it spills out in public and they get the stop in Moab.

He's getting frustrated with their relationship and the whole trip and tells his parents about the stop and they convince him to end the relationship and come home. He agrees and does. She has the van but she doesn't want to go on without him, so she taps into the money set aside for the trip to spend on a weeks stay at a hotel. Maybe she plans to end the trip so the money doesn't matter. Or maybe she is stuck with the van after he leaves and she doesn't know what to do, so she gets the motel to figure it out. Maybe she spends the entire week messaging him to come back.

So after she convinces him that she will stop fighting with him or that things will be better, he decides to go back. They don't get better. He is miserable. She is miserable and they spiral out of control until one day, while trying to set up a photo shoot next to a beautiful creek, he kills her in a rage.

Anything is possible.
I was 22 a LONG time ago, but the girls I knew that were the instigators, didn't stay in long term relationships with anyone.
IMO the clinger on, boy/girl friend is the one who like a leech, sucks the life and energy out of the person who actually has a plan, and is actively working to achieve their dreams and goals.
BL was along for the "ride".
MOO

 

[putnam6]

We're not even sure it was HER card he's accused of using AFAIK.

Wasn't the card her parent's card? for her I thought that's how they found the charge?

so much data and versions, its hard to keep track

 

[meatandcookies]

QUESTION:
For anyone who follows the "van life" uploads.
Anything similar as well. Is it common for animals, mainly dogs, to accompany people/couples/groups who have this lifestyle?
I see homeless men at the highway exits with dogs asking for food/$.
I have always wondered is it for company or to pull on people's heartstrings.
Gabby just seemed like she'd have a dog on the trek, if she could.
I am firm believer in a dog's ability to judge someone.
I also firmly believe that BL would never allow her to have one.
It would take time and attention away from him.
MOO

Also: I could see where having a pet in tow could really slow you down and complicate matters in the road- so that's why I asked.

I don’t know about the ‘van life’ culture in general, but I’ve done a few week-long section hikes of the AT with my large dog, and can confirm it slows you way down, both because it’s something else you have to keep an eye out for, and because of the physical weight of food/extra water needed. I doubt BL would have put up with that.
Also, many state parks don’t allow dogs (they’re banned on both the TN and NY sections of the AT) so that would be a further hindrance. MOO

 

[Chicago54]

That is called denial and hope. She could not continue the van life journey on her own. If she could, she would not have been holed up in a hotel in SLC hoping and waiting for BL to come back. She would have continued her van life journey on her own. But she couldn't. Not by herself. She needed somebody. She was hoping BL would come back and didn't make a move until he did. That's why her SM went quiet. She was waiting for BL to come back so she could venture forth. Yes, we cut people out when we are done. But Gabby was not done. Not done with her dreams of van life and not done with her dreams of BL doing it with her.

She was *hoping* this latest blow-up would blow over. BL would come back. The project could continue. No way would she publicly cut him out or disparage him openly on SM. She still thought she had a dream that could come true.

As a woman, she and her family probably thought it was too dangerous for her to pursue van life on her own. They all must have thought she was safer having a man with her. Sadly, that big protective man turned out to be BL

 

[putnam6]

Anything is possible.
I was 22 a LONG time ago, but the girls I knew that were the instigators, didn't stay in long term relationships with anyone.
IMO the clinger on, boy/girl friend is the one who like a leech, sucks the life and energy out of the person who actually has a plan, and is actively working to achieve their dreams and goals.
BL was along for the "ride".
MOO

That sounds like some hard-learned life lessons there...

 

[prblythe]

She was a an airport hotel, right ?

I'm not seeing reports about her at an airport hotel, but I may not have caught that info.

 

[txsleuth70]

Since we are throwing out scenario's for an event we don't know for sure even happened, I'll toss out this one.

GP/BL have always had a spirited relationship. He is flippant/dismissive a lot and she responds by getting physical with him. He, being bigger and can easily defend himself, just laughs it off. She gets upset and goes off to spend the night with her girlfriend. This repeats itself over the years of their relationship and they both are used to it. Even on the cross country car trip the year before they don't struggle because they stayed in hotels and took it easy.

But now they are in a highly confined space for weeks on end. She is frustrated trying to start a youtube channel which isn't easy. He's dismissive. She's even more physical with him. This spirals upward until he is responding with his own physicality and soon enough it spills out in public and they get the stop in Moab.

He's getting frustrated with their relationship and the whole trip and tells his parents about the stop and they convince him to end the relationship and come home. He agrees and does. She has the van but she doesn't want to go on without him, so she taps into the money set aside for the trip to spend on a weeks stay at a hotel. Maybe she plans to end the trip so the money doesn't matter. Or maybe she is stuck with the van after he leaves and she doesn't know what to do, so she gets the motel to figure it out. Maybe she spends the entire week messaging him to come back.

So after she convinces him that she will stop fighting with him or that things will be better, he decides to go back. They don't get better. He is miserable. She is miserable and they spiral out of control until one day, while trying to set up a photo shoot next to a beautiful creek, he kills her in a rage.

Most sensible theory yet.